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gaining FTA is an elite skill and Ramon has it, whatever "it" is.
Ramon is a frustrating player but he does things that make him worth it.
I can't help but want us to trade him every second or third game though.
Ramon is a frustrating player but he does things that make him worth it.
I can't help but want us to trade him every second or third game though.
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He's a great second unit guy, but he's due for a pay raise that I'm not prepared to give him. He's a UFA after this year and I wouldn't mind trading him at the deadline if we're out of contention. A playoff team would pay a handsome price for a guy like Sessions to help them in their playoff push
Mike Malone was never given a fair chance in Sacramento, and Ranadive will soon come to regret that, when he's on top of the WC inevitably contending somewhere
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lmcguir5 wrote:He's a great second unit guy, but he's due for a pay raise that I'm not prepared to give him. He's a UFA after this year and I wouldn't mind trading him at the deadline if we're out of contention. A playoff team would pay a handsome price for a guy like Sessions to help them in their playoff push
I don't think he's getting a pay raise any more than $1M/yr. I can't see anybody offering him more than what he's getting right now, since going to the Land of Obscurity. Charlotte
He's as good as Jarrett Jack if he's on a legit playoff team, I'll say that much though.
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lmcguir5 wrote:He's a great second unit guy, but he's due for a pay raise that I'm not prepared to give him. He's a UFA after this year and I wouldn't mind trading him at the deadline if we're out of contention. A playoff team would pay a handsome price for a guy like Sessions to help them in their playoff push
I think the only positive out of being the Bobcats and the way other teams perceive us and our players is that when they hit open market they don't seem to garner a whole lot of interest.
The DJA contract offer being declined by him highlights this as other teams would not even pay him half of what we were offering.
Ramon despite his early season form would only command a longer term deal of what he is on now imo.
A team like the Bucks may be desperate though.
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Ramon Sessions has a career high usage rate of 27.3. It was 25.7 last year.
It's among the top-25 in the league so he made this graph, the purpose of which was to show Bron's efficiency.

It's among the top-25 in the league so he made this graph, the purpose of which was to show Bron's efficiency.


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This, by the way, got me wondering about his unwillingness to pass. I remember him entering the league for the tanking Bucks as a call-up from D-League and he had plenty of double-digit assist games during that first year, a 20pts/8rebs/24asts (only him and Magic have done it, upon searching bk-ref. yikes) game being the highlight of that stretch. I would like to see one of those games to see how he got it done. Or was he just a rookie who wouldn't screw up his possibly only shot at sticking in the NBA by driving recklessly to the basket every chance he got, in fear of the coach not being a fan of that style?
Either way, I'll always remember that I was in this NBA Survivor game where you had to pick a team who'd win the game every day where there were at least 6 or 7 games. You couldn't take the same team twice though. So I had the decent Wizards at home versus the horrible Bucks and Sessions, probably five or six games into his career, hit an off-balance corner jumper to win it for Milwaukee. I was pissed.
Either way, I'll always remember that I was in this NBA Survivor game where you had to pick a team who'd win the game every day where there were at least 6 or 7 games. You couldn't take the same team twice though. So I had the decent Wizards at home versus the horrible Bucks and Sessions, probably five or six games into his career, hit an off-balance corner jumper to win it for Milwaukee. I was pissed.

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Something I kept noticing against the Pacers - Ramon Sessions had a bad game on defense. The four main lowlights:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2U4vCjVOh0[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2U4vCjVOh0[/youtube]

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What is wrong with Sessions the last two games? Many joked he looked drunk vs. Boston. He did! It's one thing to put up with his selfish driving if he is scoring, but when he stops scoring and throws in wild turnovers, wow. He lost that BOS game almost single-handedly. ^ He looks like he doesn't care all of a sudden. What's up with that?
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Snidely FC wrote:What is wrong with Sessions the last two games? Many joked he looked drunk vs. Boston. He did! It's one thing to put up with his selfish driving if he is scoring, but when he stops scoring and throws in wild turnovers, wow. He lost that BOS game almost single-handedly. ^ He looks like he doesn't care all of a sudden. What's up with that?
He maybe know that eh's going to be traded or somethin'
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he might be trying to pad his stats because he will be a FA when the season is over, lookin to get payed
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JDR720 wrote:he might be trying to pad his stats because he will be a FA when the season is over, lookin to get payed
This. It's very obvious that Sessions isn't about team. He understands that he's only going to receive 15-25 minutes behind Kemba on a game-to-game basis, so he tries to put up as much production as possible through himself that he can in his limited role as a reserve

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good eye on the sessions defensive lapses lamar. he looked like james harden out there with his off-ball naps.
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That was better from Sesh (v. MIL). Seemed to be over his bender, and contributed within the offense.
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Per WT:
Ramon Sessions declined his one-year, $4.55 million option with the Los Angeles Lakers in 2012 that would have kept him with the team.
Sessions might have remained the Lakers' starting point guard with a deal for Steve Nash seeming less likely.
"I think about it at times," Sessions said Saturday. "It's one of those things that when I opted out, I wasn't expecting to leave. I was expecting to work something out. But you know how the NBA business is.
"A few weeks later, they end up signing Steve Nash. He was a great player, a Hall of Fame player. That's what they wanted."
Sessions signed a two-year, $10 million deal with the Charlotte Bobcats.
I'd say we could send him back to them (especially since they don't have a healthy PG at the moment), but I don't think they have anything worth trading for.
Ramon Sessions declined his one-year, $4.55 million option with the Los Angeles Lakers in 2012 that would have kept him with the team.
Sessions might have remained the Lakers' starting point guard with a deal for Steve Nash seeming less likely.
"I think about it at times," Sessions said Saturday. "It's one of those things that when I opted out, I wasn't expecting to leave. I was expecting to work something out. But you know how the NBA business is.
"A few weeks later, they end up signing Steve Nash. He was a great player, a Hall of Fame player. That's what they wanted."
Sessions signed a two-year, $10 million deal with the Charlotte Bobcats.
I'd say we could send him back to them (especially since they don't have a healthy PG at the moment), but I don't think they have anything worth trading for.
Hornets Picks by Year
2021: Bouknight, Jones, Thor, Lewis
Protection on future 1st* (to NYK); 2nds
2022: 1-18; CHA (31-55), TOR 2 (55-60)
2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
2025: 1-14; CHA (31-55)
*Becomes two 2nds if unconveyed
2021: Bouknight, Jones, Thor, Lewis
Protection on future 1st* (to NYK); 2nds
2022: 1-18; CHA (31-55), TOR 2 (55-60)
2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
2025: 1-14; CHA (31-55)
*Becomes two 2nds if unconveyed
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BlackOutBobcat wrote:Per WT:
Ramon Sessions declined his one-year, $4.55 million option with the Los Angeles Lakers in 2012 that would have kept him with the team.
Sessions might have remained the Lakers' starting point guard with a deal for Steve Nash seeming less likely.
"I think about it at times," Sessions said Saturday. "It's one of those things that when I opted out, I wasn't expecting to leave. I was expecting to work something out. But you know how the NBA business is.
"A few weeks later, they end up signing Steve Nash. He was a great player, a Hall of Fame player. That's what they wanted."
Sessions signed a two-year, $10 million deal with the Charlotte Bobcats.
I'd say we could send him back to them (especially since they don't have a healthy PG at the moment), but I don't think they have anything worth trading for.
I'd try some three-team deal where we get Wesley Johnson and a backup PG that can shoot from a third team
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Class in Sessions
While Sessions may not jump into MKG or Taylor’s spot in the starting lineup – a role reserved for Anthony Tolliver right now - you’ll notice Head Coach Steve Clifford has had Sessions running alongside starters Kemba Walker and Gerald Henderson in the fourth quarter, and you can fully expect to see Sessions’ minutes continue to increase as MKG works his way back to full strength.
Sessions may not have started any of the Cats first 28 games, but he’s still putting up starter-like numbers. He currently ranks fourth on the team in scoring (10.8 points) and third in assists (2.9) despite only averaging 22 minutes off the bench. He’s also taken more free throws than anyone on the Cats (104-for-135) despite averaging about 13 fewer minutes than Henderson (105-for-133) and Walker (100-for-124), who rank second and third on the team, respectively.
How does he do it? By attacking the rim.
An astonishing 64.9 percent of Sessions' field goal attempts have come around the rim this season, and he's knocking down 47.7 percent of those shots. When he’s not connecting from in close, he’s tied with Henderson for 34th in the NBA with an average of 4.8 freebie attempts each contest and is currently the only non-starter in the league to crack the Top 50 on this list. Sessions is currently connecting on 77.0 percent of his shots from the stripe, but that number should also continue to improve, as he’s an 80.0 percent career shooter there.
http://www.nba.com/bobcats/fantasy-outl ... s-sessions

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Humble yourself.
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thruthefire wrote:Sessions' shot chart cracks me up:
http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.ht ... rID=201196
He's below average in virtually every shooting zone, yet still he continues to shoot at a rapid pace from the very moment he's subbed into the game until the point that he's subbed out

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its been fun sessions. maybe he can resign here in the offseason (for less than 5mil).
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Best player in the trade. Sorry to see him go.










