Blkbrd671 wrote:wire28 wrote:Blkbrd671 wrote:wow, you had to make a thread for this, there's a fire Joe D thread, also your not the last one, and just because we are not winning doesn't mean Joe D has to go, we are in prime position to make moves. Joe D's not going any where until after this seaosn
i had to since i was his last supporter, marking the official end of any piston fan who supported joe
what are you talking about, i'm definitely still a joe D believer , though at times my faith waivers and i know a couple other posters still believe. again really no need to make this thread when there's literally a FIRE JOE D thread. If we were in poor financial position , drafted poorly and didn't have assets to make moves, i'd be right there with you. However we are in the exact opposite position of that, not to mention this Smith , moose and Dre experiment is only 15 games in. Did i also mention we have a new coach. Adjustments take time, patience
We've been trash for about five years, I think compared to most fans I've been pretty patient when it comes to joe Dumars lol.
If you want me to flesh out my reasoning more, ask

Honestly if you were still on Joes side after CV and Ben, it's arguable you were just a Dumars homer (which I may have been). As those two moves were clearly fire-able (is that a word?) offenses.
As I said in my previous posts, I've said numerous times on here realistically we wouldn't know where this team was til Jan. Offensively I think we have potential to become, more efficient. Defensively we are either incredibly stupid, our coachs defensive philosophy is incredibly inept, or a mix of both. We won't be going anywhere with a horrible defense so assembling a team with apparently a severe allergy to pick and roll, perimeter, and man on man defense, was the last straw for me against Joseph.