GT: Cats vs Pacers Wed Nov 27th 7PM EST

[Red Larrivee]

top 12 picks in the draft

1-Bennett sucks at everything so far
2-Oladipo doing good
3-Otto Porter hasn't played
4-Zeller shooting bad but doing other things decently well
5-Alex Len barely plays
6-Nerlens Noel hasn't played bc of torn ACL
7-Ben McLemore shooting 3's but not much else
8-Caldwell-Pope sucking in Detroit
9-Trey Burke injured for most of season
10-CJ McCollum stress fracture
11-MCW lighting the world on fire
12-Olynyk doing decent



Zeller has been 3rd best rookie this season behind Oladipo and MCW

What is Zeller doing decently well?

Let's call a spade a spade already, Zeller has sucked. He has a 7.5 PER, he's shooting 33% from the field, 40.5 TS% and he can't defend a chair. He was touted as someone who should get to the line a lot because of his insane foul rate in college, but he's only drawing 3.3 FTA per 36 minutes.

Zeller is shooting an efg% of 22.5% on jumpers this season. The front office got mesmerized by Zeller making some 3's in an empty gym and envisioned him as a stretch four despite the fact that he had never made a single three at Indiana and only took 34 jump shots in 2 seasons. That's exactly why you put no credibility into draft workouts. Players "cram" for the workout by working on their weaknesses to fool teams all the time. The Bobcats statistically are a better offensive team without him on the floor and a better defensive team.

Zeller is doing nothing at an NBA level so far through 16 games. He's very athletic, but he doesn't use his athleticism much if at all. He's not quick, nor is he explosive. He can't handle the ball and he looks confused on offense 95% of the time. He's struggling against stronger players after being the big man on campus for two seasons with the Hoosiers.

He hasn't had 1 game where I've thought "Oh, well that's why he was considered one of the four best players in this draft." At this point, there isn't a difference between Zeller and Olynyk, except Boston drafted Olynyk nine spots later.

I said it on draft night and I'll say it now--they should've taken McLemore.

[MasterIchiro]

top 12 picks in the draft

1-Bennett sucks at everything so far
2-Oladipo doing good
3-Otto Porter hasn't played
4-Zeller shooting bad but doing other things decently well
5-Alex Len barely plays
6-Nerlens Noel hasn't played bc of torn ACL
7-Ben McLemore shooting 3's but not much else
8-Caldwell-Pope sucking in Detroit
9-Trey Burke injured for most of season
10-CJ McCollum stress fracture
11-MCW lighting the world on fire
12-Olynyk doing decent



Zeller has been 3rd best rookie this season behind Oladipo and MCW

What is Zeller doing decently well?

Let's call a spade a spade already, Zeller has sucked. He has a 7.5 PER, he's shooting 33% from the field, 40.5 TS% and he can't defend a chair. He was touted as someone who should get to the line a lot because of his insane foul rate in college, but he's only drawing 3.3 FTA per 36 minutes.

Zeller is shooting an efg% of 22.5% on jumpers this season. The front office got mesmerized by Zeller making some 3's in an empty gym and envisioned him as a stretch four despite the fact that he had never made a single three at Indiana and only took 34 jump shots in 2 seasons. That's exactly why you put no credibility into draft workouts. Players "cram" for the workout by working on their weaknesses to fool teams all the time. The Bobcats statistically are a better offensive team without him on the floor and a better defensive team.

Zeller is doing nothing at an NBA level so far through 16 games. He's very athletic, but he doesn't use his athleticism much if at all. He's not quick, nor is he explosive. He can't handle the ball and he looks confused on offense 95% of the time. He's struggling against stronger players after being the big man on campus for two seasons with the Hoosiers.

He hasn't had 1 game where I've thought "Oh, well that's why he was considered one of the four best players in this draft." At this point, there isn't a difference between Zeller and Olynyk, except Boston drafted Olynyk nine spots later.

I said it on draft night and I'll say it now--they should've taken McLemore.

+1 from me and it's painfully obvious now that teams would have avoided Zeller - he would have definitely dropped if Charlotte had traded down.

[Nuntius]

Im pretty sure we had more people at our home game tonight than Indiana has at their home games, which is extremely strange. Good crowd tonight. Not sure why Indiana doesn't support their Pacers. Indiana is the home of basketball.

That's not true for this season. Indiana has consistently drawn 16,000+ crowds this season and we have already had several several sellouts.

[LamarMatic7]

Jefferson isn't bad on defense at all. That was a myth.

He is a good post defender but the knock on him is his bad pick-n-roll defense. The Pacers obviously don't put Hibbert into PnR's, but if it was any other faster center they would target Al until he was too tired to properly defend it.

I just watched the game (had work all day yesterday) so yes, it's quite an old quote. Was just going through the game thread.

Loved MKG's defense. Making a video of it.