Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread

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Why isn't Toure Murry getting any burn?


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Maybe he's not that good

[fresko024]

Why isn't Toure Murry getting any burn?


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Maybe he's not that good

JR and Shump haven't looked good AT ALL


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[shmeakone]

ROFL Chris Sheridan really wrote this in an article on fantasy trades:

Shumpert and Tim Hardaway Jr. to the Charlotte Bobcats for Bismack Biyombo

You can count on one hand the number of teams who have a spare center around, and you’d probably have a few fingers left over. Yes, the Houston Rockets have a center they are willing to move in Omer Asik, but they’d have to get a big guy back – and the Knicks are not exactly dealing from a position of strength when it comes to having bigs to toss into trades (longing for the days of Jerome Jordan and Jorts, Knicks Nation?)

Charlotte, however, is sitting in playoff position and had no long-term use for Biyombo now that Al Jefferson is their anchor and Cody Zeller is his backup – especially since they also have Brendan Haywood returning in January. They are getting plenty of production out of their guards (no, we are not including Ben Gordon), but it would not be distasteful for them to accumulate a pair of former first-round picks who remain on their rookie contracts to strengthen their vault for the next time they need to make a move.

With the Knicks in panic mode in an all-or-nothing season, this is no time to discuss hanging on to their young pieces for the future. And besides, Biyombo is a young piece who could develop into something special (or better-than-average) defensively. He can keep the paint warm and the rim protected until Chandler is ready to return. Shumpert could be replaced in the starting five by J.R. Smith.

I wouldn't trade either them alone for Bismack. This guy is such a Knicks hater.

[BossHoggin]

Knicks get - Dion Waiters, Kyle Lowry & Anderson Varejao

Cavs get - Iman Shumpert & Rudy Gay

Raptors get - Amar'e Stoudemire, Beno Udrih & Anthony Bennett

For Knicks: Waiters rookie contracts is for 3 more seasons. Can potentially play PG & has more potential than Shump & is younger.

For Cavs: Shump needs a fresh start & can fit very nicely next to Kyrie Irving. Rudy Gay expires same time as Varejao (after next season) & provides more as SF is a true need for them. Gay also provides major offense help that Irving needs.

For Raptors: Helps their tank. They acquire the 1st pick of the last draft. Puts Bennett at PF instead of SF where he's a better fit & can slowly & patiently develop him next to Big V.

only problem with this is that the Cavs would hang up the phone instantly.

[Dr. Detfink]

These trades suffer from the same problem...they don't address the need for a point guard. You can make all the excuses but Melo is not a creator. He's a $20+M finisher/closer. You NEED a distributor.

This season is all about dressing up players like Bargnani and Shump...so the Knicks can package them with their own first round pick this year and hope to move up enough in June draft to finally GET a point guard.

Never understood why Donnie Walsh or Grunnie ignored this lingering problem.

Without a playmaker, the Knicks will NEVER move forward as a franchise. The league seems intent on keeping all of its point guards because they are too invaluable. Therefore the draft is the only hope.

[lmspence7]

Clippers Nation, I have a trade for you that will help you steal the Lakers' thunder and win that elusive championship ring. First, let me say, I'm a life-long Knicks fan and Carmelo is far from the blame for the fiasco we're currently in. Carmelo Anthony is the best Knick player since Patrick Ewing. If I had too, I'd do the Carmelo trade again in a heartbeat. To my fellow Knicks fan, Raymond Felton, Wilson Chandler and Gallinari were not going to win us a championship! The Melo trade needed to happen!!

Remember a few years back at Carmelo's wedding, Chris Paul made the announcement about he and Melo teaming up with Amar'e Stoudemire to create their own "Big Three" in New York? Well, we all know how that worked out. However, I digress. Chris Paul and Carmelo are good friends and have a desire to play with each other, let's make that wish finally come true.

The Clippers have the elite PG, you have the championship caliber coach, you have the veteran/young player mix coming off the bench. However you're missing an essential piece, a closer! With the exception of Kobe Bryant, Carmelo Anthony is the best closer in the game. Statistic back-up this claim.

Now Clipper Nation, you're probably wondering what you would have to give up to get one of the best scorers in the game? None other than Mr. Kia himself, Blake Griffin. Blake is a huge talent and a main component of "Lob City" but the reality is that his style of play is not really conducive to playoff basketball. His jump-shot is sporadic at best, his free throw shooting is on par with Dwight Howard and he's not really a fan of contact...If you want to advance past the first round (2013) or past the conference semi-finals (2012) you need Carmelo Anthony. And, Carmelo needs a coach like Doc Rivers and a point guard like CP3 to bring out his best.

You many be asking, if I'm so critical of Blake Griffin, why do I want him on the Knicks? Do get me wrong, Blake Griffin is an amazing talent but his game has to grow. The Clippers are in a win now mode and have the pieces to make that run. New York is always in the win now mode, but we don't have the pieces to do so. Blake also gives the New York fan base hope of better things to come, because the reality is that the Knicks will not be able to become a legitimate contender until the Amar'e Stoudemire albatross of a contract comes off our books. Was the Stoudemire signing the right thing to do? Absolutely, the wrong thing was giving him five years when your own doctors told you his knees would last three years at best. Next year, his last year is when his contract become appealing. Then you can trade him or wait for the contract to come off the books just in time to make a run at Rajon Rondo.

So you may ask, what is the complete trade since the two main component's salaries don't match? Well here it is, Carmelo Anthony, Iman Shumpert and Pablo Prigioni for Blake Griffin, Jamal Crawford, Jared Dudley, Darren Collison and a first round 2014 pick. This put both teams in line for championship runs; the Clippers now and the Knicks within two years.

Why should the Clippers make this trade now? Why not wait for him to option out of his contract this summer? The same reason the Knicks needed to make the Denver trade a few years back, Carmelo likes his money!! Forget the talk that he plans to sign with the Lakers over the summer, I believe that he plans to sign in LA, but he planning to join the Clippers. The New York experience was nice, but he desperately wants a ring and the Knicks can't offer him that anytime soon, unless Davis Stern gives the Knick a parting gift and forces Boston to trade Rondo and take back Amar'e giving us an opportunity to sign Kevin Love??? Not! Make this trade.


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[Boarder Patrol]

Melo, Beno, Shump and cash to PHX for Bledsoe, Okafor, Washington 2014 1st, PHX 2014 2nd?

Knicks get their star PG of the future and an expiring, along with two picks.

Phoenix gets a nice future core with Dragic, Len, Melo, a ton of cap room, and 3 picks in a sweet draft (some filler is likely needed in the trade, I think PHX has tons of small contracts, so they can be thrown in)

[Boarder Patrol]

Clippers Nation, I have a trade for you that will help you steal the Lakers' thunder and win that elusive championship ring. First, let me say, I'm a life-long Knicks fan and Carmelo is far from the blame for the fiasco we're currently in. Carmelo Anthony is the best Knick player since Patrick Ewing. If I had too, I'd do the Carmelo trade again in a heartbeat. To my fellow Knicks fan, Raymond Felton, Wilson Chandler and Gallinari were not going to win us a championship! The Melo trade needed to happen!!

Remember a few years back at Carmelo's wedding, Chris Paul made the announcement about he and Melo teaming up with Amar'e Stoudemire to create their own "Big Three" in New York? Well, we all know how that worked out. However, I digress. Chris Paul and Carmelo are good friends and have a desire to play with each other, let's make that wish finally come true.

The Clippers have the elite PG, you have the championship caliber coach, you have the veteran/young player mix coming off the bench. However you're missing an essential piece, a closer! With the exception of Kobe Bryant, Carmelo Anthony is the best closer in the game. Statistic back-up this claim.

Now Clipper Nation, you're probably wondering what you would have to give up to get one of the best scorers in the game? None other than Mr. Kia himself, Blake Griffin. Blake is a huge talent and a main component of "Lob City" but the reality is that his style of play is not really conducive to playoff basketball. His jump-shot is sporadic at best, his free throw shooting is on par with Dwight Howard and he's not really a fan of contact...If you want to advance past the first round (2013) or past the conference semi-finals (2012) you need Carmelo Anthony. And, Carmelo needs a coach like Doc Rivers and a point guard like CP3 to bring out his best.

You many be asking, if I'm so critical of Blake Griffin, why do I want him on the Knicks? Do get me wrong, Blake Griffin is an amazing talent but his game has to grow. The Clippers are in a win now mode and have the pieces to make that run. New York is always in the win now mode, but we don't have the pieces to do so. Blake also gives the New York fan base hope of better things to come, because the reality is that the Knicks will not be able to become a legitimate contender until the Amar'e Stoudemire albatross of a contract comes off our books. Was the Stoudemire signing the right thing to do? Absolutely, the wrong thing was giving him five years when your own doctors told you his knees would last three years at best. Next year, his last year is when his contract become appealing. Then you can trade him or wait for the contract to come off the books just in time to make a run at Rajon Rondo.

So you may ask, what is the complete trade since the two main component's salaries don't match? Well here it is, Carmelo Anthony, Iman Shumpert and Pablo Prigioni for Blake Griffin, Jamal Crawford, Jared Dudley, Darren Collison and a first round 2014 pick. This put both teams in line for championship runs; the Clippers now and the Knicks within two years.

Why should the Clippers make this trade now? Why not wait for him to option out of his contract this summer? The same reason the Knicks needed to make the Denver trade a few years back, Carmelo likes his money!! Forget the talk that he plans to sign with the Lakers over the summer, I believe that he plans to sign in LA, but he planning to join the Clippers. The New York experience was nice, but he desperately wants a ring and the Knicks can't offer him that anytime soon, unless Davis Stern gives the Knick a parting gift and forces Boston to trade Rondo and take back Amar'e giving us an opportunity to sign Kevin Love??? Not! Make this trade.


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I don't think this is worth it for the Clips. Crawford is a sixth man of the year in his own right. Also, they can't trade their first round pick. I do agree, however, that Melo gives the Clippers a better chance at making the finals than Blake does.

Melo, Iman, Pablo and Cole Aldrich and cash for Blake, 2014 and 2015 second round picks, Collison and filler if need be.

Paul | Iman | Dudley | Melo | Jordan, a better fitting starting five with a more well-rounded bench of Prigs | Crawford | Barnes | Jamison and Aldrich

[R-DAWG]

Clippers Nation, I have a trade for you that will help you steal the Lakers' thunder and win that elusive championship ring. First, let me say, I'm a life-long Knicks fan and Carmelo is far from the blame for the fiasco we're currently in. Carmelo Anthony is the best Knick player since Patrick Ewing. If I had too, I'd do the Carmelo trade again in a heartbeat. To my fellow Knicks fan, Raymond Felton, Wilson Chandler and Gallinari were not going to win us a championship! The Melo trade needed to happen!!

Remember a few years back at Carmelo's wedding, Chris Paul made the announcement about he and Melo teaming up with Amar'e Stoudemire to create their own "Big Three" in New York? Well, we all know how that worked out. However, I digress. Chris Paul and Carmelo are good friends and have a desire to play with each other, let's make that wish finally come true.

The Clippers have the elite PG, you have the championship caliber coach, you have the veteran/young player mix coming off the bench. However you're missing an essential piece, a closer! With the exception of Kobe Bryant, Carmelo Anthony is the best closer in the game. Statistic back-up this claim.

Now Clipper Nation, you're probably wondering what you would have to give up to get one of the best scorers in the game? None other than Mr. Kia himself, Blake Griffin. Blake is a huge talent and a main component of "Lob City" but the reality is that his style of play is not really conducive to playoff basketball. His jump-shot is sporadic at best, his free throw shooting is on par with Dwight Howard and he's not really a fan of contact...If you want to advance past the first round (2013) or past the conference semi-finals (2012) you need Carmelo Anthony. And, Carmelo needs a coach like Doc Rivers and a point guard like CP3 to bring out his best.

You many be asking, if I'm so critical of Blake Griffin, why do I want him on the Knicks? Do get me wrong, Blake Griffin is an amazing talent but his game has to grow. The Clippers are in a win now mode and have the pieces to make that run. New York is always in the win now mode, but we don't have the pieces to do so. Blake also gives the New York fan base hope of better things to come, because the reality is that the Knicks will not be able to become a legitimate contender until the Amar'e Stoudemire albatross of a contract comes off our books. Was the Stoudemire signing the right thing to do? Absolutely, the wrong thing was giving him five years when your own doctors told you his knees would last three years at best. Next year, his last year is when his contract become appealing. Then you can trade him or wait for the contract to come off the books just in time to make a run at Rajon Rondo.

So you may ask, what is the complete trade since the two main component's salaries don't match? Well here it is, Carmelo Anthony, Iman Shumpert and Pablo Prigioni for Blake Griffin, Jamal Crawford, Jared Dudley, Darren Collison and a first round 2014 pick. This put both teams in line for championship runs; the Clippers now and the Knicks within two years.

Why should the Clippers make this trade now? Why not wait for him to option out of his contract this summer? The same reason the Knicks needed to make the Denver trade a few years back, Carmelo likes his money!! Forget the talk that he plans to sign with the Lakers over the summer, I believe that he plans to sign in LA, but he planning to join the Clippers. The New York experience was nice, but he desperately wants a ring and the Knicks can't offer him that anytime soon, unless Davis Stern gives the Knick a parting gift and forces Boston to trade Rondo and take back Amar'e giving us an opportunity to sign Kevin Love??? Not! Make this trade.


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I don't think this is worth it for the Clips. Crawford is a sixth man of the year in his own right. Also, they can't trade their first round pick. I do agree, however, that Melo gives the Clippers a better chance at making the finals than Blake does.

Melo, Iman, Pablo and Cole Aldrich and cash for Blake, 2014 and 2015 second round picks, Collison and filler if need be.

Paul | Iman | Dudley | Melo | Jordan, a better fitting starting five with a more well-rounded bench of Prigs | Crawford | Barnes | Jamison and Aldrich

how about Melo and Chandler to the Clippers in exchange for Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan, Reggie Bullock and first round picks in 2017, 2019 and 2021. There would need to be a 3rd team involved that sends a serviceable starting PF to the Clippers, like a Brandon Bass.

Chandler/Bass/Anthony/Reddick/Paul bench: Collison/Crawford/Dudley/Barnes/

It's a heavy price to pay if your the Clippers, but Melo is a better player than Griffin and Chandler an upgrade over Jordan. Plus the pieces fit together nicely: Melo would thrive playing off Paul, and Chandler knows how to play with both of them. They are loaded with shooters - JJ Reddick, Dudley, Barnes ect to space the floor.

For the Knicks I would look to flip Griffin and Jordan to other teams for more assets and young players.

[Boarder Patrol]

Clippers Nation, I have a trade for you that will help you steal the Lakers' thunder and win that elusive championship ring. First, let me say, I'm a life-long Knicks fan and Carmelo is far from the blame for the fiasco we're currently in. Carmelo Anthony is the best Knick player since Patrick Ewing. If I had too, I'd do the Carmelo trade again in a heartbeat. To my fellow Knicks fan, Raymond Felton, Wilson Chandler and Gallinari were not going to win us a championship! The Melo trade needed to happen!!

Remember a few years back at Carmelo's wedding, Chris Paul made the announcement about he and Melo teaming up with Amar'e Stoudemire to create their own "Big Three" in New York? Well, we all know how that worked out. However, I digress. Chris Paul and Carmelo are good friends and have a desire to play with each other, let's make that wish finally come true.

The Clippers have the elite PG, you have the championship caliber coach, you have the veteran/young player mix coming off the bench. However you're missing an essential piece, a closer! With the exception of Kobe Bryant, Carmelo Anthony is the best closer in the game. Statistic back-up this claim.

Now Clipper Nation, you're probably wondering what you would have to give up to get one of the best scorers in the game? None other than Mr. Kia himself, Blake Griffin. Blake is a huge talent and a main component of "Lob City" but the reality is that his style of play is not really conducive to playoff basketball. His jump-shot is sporadic at best, his free throw shooting is on par with Dwight Howard and he's not really a fan of contact...If you want to advance past the first round (2013) or past the conference semi-finals (2012) you need Carmelo Anthony. And, Carmelo needs a coach like Doc Rivers and a point guard like CP3 to bring out his best.

You many be asking, if I'm so critical of Blake Griffin, why do I want him on the Knicks? Do get me wrong, Blake Griffin is an amazing talent but his game has to grow. The Clippers are in a win now mode and have the pieces to make that run. New York is always in the win now mode, but we don't have the pieces to do so. Blake also gives the New York fan base hope of better things to come, because the reality is that the Knicks will not be able to become a legitimate contender until the Amar'e Stoudemire albatross of a contract comes off our books. Was the Stoudemire signing the right thing to do? Absolutely, the wrong thing was giving him five years when your own doctors told you his knees would last three years at best. Next year, his last year is when his contract become appealing. Then you can trade him or wait for the contract to come off the books just in time to make a run at Rajon Rondo.

So you may ask, what is the complete trade since the two main component's salaries don't match? Well here it is, Carmelo Anthony, Iman Shumpert and Pablo Prigioni for Blake Griffin, Jamal Crawford, Jared Dudley, Darren Collison and a first round 2014 pick. This put both teams in line for championship runs; the Clippers now and the Knicks within two years.

Why should the Clippers make this trade now? Why not wait for him to option out of his contract this summer? The same reason the Knicks needed to make the Denver trade a few years back, Carmelo likes his money!! Forget the talk that he plans to sign with the Lakers over the summer, I believe that he plans to sign in LA, but he planning to join the Clippers. The New York experience was nice, but he desperately wants a ring and the Knicks can't offer him that anytime soon, unless Davis Stern gives the Knick a parting gift and forces Boston to trade Rondo and take back Amar'e giving us an opportunity to sign Kevin Love??? Not! Make this trade.


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I don't think this is worth it for the Clips. Crawford is a sixth man of the year in his own right. Also, they can't trade their first round pick. I do agree, however, that Melo gives the Clippers a better chance at making the finals than Blake does.

Melo, Iman, Pablo and Cole Aldrich and cash for Blake, 2014 and 2015 second round picks, Collison and filler if need be.

Paul | Iman | Dudley | Melo | Jordan, a better fitting starting five with a more well-rounded bench of Prigs | Crawford | Barnes | Jamison and Aldrich

how about Melo and Chandler to the Clippers in exchange for Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan, Reggie Bullock and first round picks in 2017, 2019 and 2021. There would need to be a 3rd team involved that sends a serviceable starting PF to the Clippers, like a Brandon Bass.

Chandler/Bass/Anthony/Reddick/Paul bench: Collison/Crawford/Dudley/Barnes/

It's a heavy price to pay if your the Clippers, but Melo is a better player than Griffin and Chandler an upgrade over Jordan. Plus the pieces fit together nicely: Melo would thrive playing off Paul, and Chandler knows how to play with both of them. They are loaded with shooters - JJ Reddick, Dudley, Barnes ect to space the floor.

For the Knicks I would look to flip Griffin and Jordan to other teams for more assets and young players.

Four firsts from the Clippers is too much IMO, even if they're in the distant future. Let's throw in Aldrich to get them a legit backup, turn the 2019 first into seconds in 2014, 15 and 16, and eliminate the last pick.

Chandler, Aldrich, Shump, and Melo to the Clippers for Blake, Jordan, Bullock, 2017 first, 2019 swap, 2014 2nd.

Paul, J.J, Dudley, Melo, Chandler with a ridiculous bench. I like their chances, and if we flip Blake and Jordan we could come out with a ton of firsts from the sea,

[R-DAWG]

I don't think this is worth it for the Clips. Crawford is a sixth man of the year in his own right. Also, they can't trade their first round pick. I do agree, however, that Melo gives the Clippers a better chance at making the finals than Blake does.

Melo, Iman, Pablo and Cole Aldrich and cash for Blake, 2014 and 2015 second round picks, Collison and filler if need be.

Paul | Iman | Dudley | Melo | Jordan, a better fitting starting five with a more well-rounded bench of Prigs | Crawford | Barnes | Jamison and Aldrich

how about Melo and Chandler to the Clippers in exchange for Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan, Reggie Bullock and first round picks in 2017, 2019 and 2021. There would need to be a 3rd team involved that sends a serviceable starting PF to the Clippers, like a Brandon Bass.

Chandler/Bass/Anthony/Reddick/Paul bench: Collison/Crawford/Dudley/Barnes/

It's a heavy price to pay if your the Clippers, but Melo is a better player than Griffin and Chandler an upgrade over Jordan. Plus the pieces fit together nicely: Melo would thrive playing off Paul, and Chandler knows how to play with both of them. They are loaded with shooters - JJ Reddick, Dudley, Barnes ect to space the floor.

For the Knicks I would look to flip Griffin and Jordan to other teams for more assets and young players.

Four firsts from the Clippers is too much IMO, even if they're in the distant future. Let's throw in Aldrich to get them a legit backup, turn the 2019 first into seconds in 2014, 15 and 16, and eliminate the last pick.

Chandler, Aldrich, Shump, and Melo to the Clippers for Blake, Jordan, Bullock, 2017 first, 2019 swap, 2014 2nd.

Paul, J.J, Dudley, Melo, Chandler with a ridiculous bench. I like their chances, and if we flip Blake and Jordan we could come out with a ton of firsts from the sea,

It's 3 1st's from the Clippers, not 4. Melo is worth Griffin and 2 picks because he will re sign. Chandler is worth Jordan, a 1st and Bullock. I think the deal is fair. The Clippers end up with 2 top 10 players, anchored by one of the best 6th men and defensive players in the league.

Personally I'd try to flip Griffin to Denver for our picks in 2014 and 2016 back in a separate deal. Denver ends up with Lawson/Griffin combo. Knicks get a fresh start with extra assets.

[Boarder Patrol]

how about Melo and Chandler to the Clippers in exchange for Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan, Reggie Bullock and first round picks in 2017, 2019 and 2021. There would need to be a 3rd team involved that sends a serviceable starting PF to the Clippers, like a Brandon Bass.

Chandler/Bass/Anthony/Reddick/Paul bench: Collison/Crawford/Dudley/Barnes/

It's a heavy price to pay if your the Clippers, but Melo is a better player than Griffin and Chandler an upgrade over Jordan. Plus the pieces fit together nicely: Melo would thrive playing off Paul, and Chandler knows how to play with both of them. They are loaded with shooters - JJ Reddick, Dudley, Barnes ect to space the floor.

For the Knicks I would look to flip Griffin and Jordan to other teams for more assets and young players.

Four firsts from the Clippers is too much IMO, even if they're in the distant future. Let's throw in Aldrich to get them a legit backup, turn the 2019 first into seconds in 2014, 15 and 16, and eliminate the last pick.

Chandler, Aldrich, Shump, and Melo to the Clippers for Blake, Jordan, Bullock, 2017 first, 2019 swap, 2014 2nd.

Paul, J.J, Dudley, Melo, Chandler with a ridiculous bench. I like their chances, and if we flip Blake and Jordan we could come out with a ton of firsts from the sea,

It's 3 1st's from the Clippers, not 4. Melo is worth Griffin and 2 picks because he will resign. Chandler is worth Jordan, a 1st and Bullock. I think the deal is fair.

Personally I'd try to flip Griffin to Denver for our picks in 2014 and 2016 back. Denver ends up with Lawson/Griffin combo. Knicks get a fresh start with extra assets.

I considered Bullock a first too. And Melo and Griffin are on the same tier as players (Melo is better, don't get me wrong) and Griffin is younger and cheaper. So I'd say he's worth 1 pick in addition to Blake, at most. Chandler isn't much of an upgrade, especially since he isn't durable. He does warrant some assets because he's a proven vet, was the 2nd best player on a title team, and hits free throws. Even if the deal were fair, it's still a lot to ask for the Clippers to trade all available picks for a decade.

Melo, Chandler, Aldrich and Shump for Blake, Jordan, Bullock, 2017 + 2019 firsts, 2016 pick swap. That's a fair middle ground, I think. If we value Shump more than Timmy, trade Timmy instead.

[Marty McFly]

If the knicks getting that pick back from denver is an option, i would hope that that is explored. that's basically all I'm interested in really. the knicks garner more control of their own fate, and at the very least, we'll have a shot at the one guy everyone is assuming will be the next in line in wiggins. a nuggets fan brought up chandler for mcgee and the pick back, I'd do that **** in a heart beat.

then it'd be melo for the highest bidder. be it clipperland or boston (they've got all those net firsts, and i would find it incredibly funny if the knicks got a couple of those) in two seasons the knicks could retool, with a young cheap and exciting team.

[sogood]

Seriously though I don't think the Clippers will do Melo for Griffin straight up.

[WhyISO]

Seriously though I don't think the Clippers will do Melo for Griffin straight up.

Why would they?
Griffin plays off the ball and Melo's game will be a big issue with CP3.

Melo also isn't big on PnR and setting screens which is the Clippers bread and butter.

[Nutty Nats Fan]

Seriously though I don't think the Clippers will do Melo for Griffin straight up.

Why would they?
Griffin plays off the ball and Melo's game will be a big issue with CP3.

Melo also isn't big on PnR and setting screens which is the Clippers bread and butter.

Melo isn't "big" on something none of his coaches have him do. What a surprise.

Melo had his most success when he had a real PG. He wouldn't have any issues playing with CP3. I imagine he would love playing with a player who makes it easier for him to score as well. Though I don't see the Clippers doing it either.

[R-DAWG]

Seriously though I don't think the Clippers will do Melo for Griffin straight up.

Why would they?
Griffin plays off the ball and Melo's game will be a big issue with CP3.

Melo also isn't big on PnR and setting screens which is the Clippers bread and butter.

Melo isn't "big" on something none of his coaches have him do. What a surprise.

Melo had his most success when he had a real PG. He wouldn't have any issues playing with CP3. I imagine he would love playing with a player who makes it easier for him to score as well. Though I don't see the Clippers doing it either.

I disagree that the Clippers wouldn't do it. Melo is a much better player than Blake Griffin and factor in that he's playing with his good friend Chris Paul. Add Chandler who's a pretty good pick and roll player. Combine that with the shooting of Reddick, Crawford, Barnes and Dudley. Your talking about a team with a 3-5 year window to win multiple championships. Melo and Chandler over Griffin and DeAndre would elevate the Clippers to the elite level of NBA teams. And age doesn't matter - this is Chris Paul's prime, they shouldn't waste it.

[Thugger HBC]

CP3 and Melo might be friends, but CP didnt force his way here when he had the chance, he even denied he tried when the rumors came out.

But neither side does that deal, it isnt even realistic.

[Nutty Nats Fan]

R-DAWG -> I see your point and if Tyson was healthy, it would make more sense for the Clippers. However he is not and it isn't exactly a rebuilding package for NY, although a package Dolan would take since Blake would help put butts in seats. I doubt he would ever actually rebuild, sadly.

CP3 and Melo might be friends, but CP didnt force his way here when he had the chance, he even denied he tried when the rumors came out.

CP couldn't force his way here. NY had nothing to give up that was even remotely worth him and even if a trade was made, Stern would have blocked it. This is like CP denying rumors he tried to squeeze water out of a rock.

[R-DAWG]

R-DAWG -> I see your point and if Tyson was healthy, it would make more sense for the Clippers. However he is not and it isn't exactly a rebuilding package for NY, although a package Dolan would take since Blake would help put butts in seats. I doubt he would ever actually rebuild, sadly.

CP3 and Melo might be friends, but CP didnt force his way here when he had the chance, he even denied he tried when the rumors came out.

CP couldn't force his way here. NY had nothing to give up that was even remotely worth him and even if a trade was made, Stern would have blocked it. This is like CP denying rumors he tried to squeeze water out of a rock.

1) The trade would happen after Chandler is back and healthy. He should be back by Jan.

2) You need a follow up trade in which Griffin is flipped to Denver for our picks in 2014 and 2016 returned, Farid and Wilson Chandler's contract (along with Darrell Arthur and Anthony Randolph to make the math work).

Is the ability to team Blake Griffin with Ty Lawson and Danillo Gallinari worth 2 first round picks and Kennith Farid? I think so.