Time to be honest about Iman Shumpert

[Damas]

Chances of him being traded before the end of the season?

I say pretty high if we continue to lose and he puts up another 0 stat line.

The next team he goes to could decide his NBA career. He needs to go to a place like San Antonio or GS where the offense is smooth and strict. He can't go to another free looking offense like the Knicks.

[skidmark mcgee]

Yes, it's me! Skidmark McGee! So sorry about the Vasquez rumor, I was sure it was going down as per multiple sources. But now I'm hearing another name on the list: Austin Rivers. NY willing to take a chance on him manning the point.

[Sprewell4Three]

He was great when he played with Lin

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He was great when he played with Lin

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10pts 3 rebs 2 asts on 39%FG


From the Nets game to the Cavs game before Melo came back. He's not who people think he is

[ibraheim718]

He was great when he played with Lin

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10pts 3 rebs 2 asts on 39%FG


From the Nets game to the Cavs game before Melo came back. He's not who people think he is

For a rookie that's pretty good especially considering that those stats don't even touch on what he did best that year which was play defense.

[Besart19]

He was great when he played with Lin

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From the Nets game to the Cavs game before Melo came back. He's not who people think he is

For a rookie that's pretty good especially considering that those stats don't even touch on what he did best that year which was play defense.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/110/

[NoLayupRule]

Sucky thing is that he's killing his trade value right now

GMs know he's got skillz
But if he was got right now like the guy in San Antonio then we'd have asik here right now

[nashtymvp]

Yes, it's me! Skidmark McGee! So sorry about the Vasquez rumor, I was sure it was going down as per multiple sources. But now I'm hearing another name on the list: Austin Rivers. NY willing to take a chance on him manning the point.

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[IMAN5]

Laundry Fields all over again. Same type of impact and same type of delusion we shouldn't have traded him when his value was an all time high.

Look at us now. Trade him to the raps, they might throw us something interesting.

shumpert, THJR and a few more 2nd rounders for Lowry might work both ways.

Lowry sucks man, trust me. We need a dragic, not some overweight point guard who can't take criticism.

I'm from Toronto, I've seen how good Lowry can be if he wants to be. He's actually playing well right now and be a good off the court leader cause he's in a contract season.

maybe Shump, Felton, one 2nd round pick for Lowry works better. Keep THJR so at least Knicks have one prospect still.

[Sark]

http://nypost.com/2013/11/28/shump-chan ... onfidence/

The night Knicks coach Mike Woodson may have lost Iman Shumpert could have come on Nov. 20 in the heartbreaking overtime loss to the powerhouse Pacers. Shumpert hasn’t been the same since that night, when Woodson criticized the guard for his last-second ticky-tack foul in contesting Paul George’s 3-point attempt.
Shumpert and J.R. Smith, the Knicks’ two shooting guards, look as a confused as a Rocky Mountain elk in headlights as the club concludes its four-game road trip Friday night at Pepsi Center.
Woodson is all but pleading for Shumpert and Smith to ramp it up before the Knicks’ seven-game losing streak gets worse. They are in the coach’s crosshairs.
The two guards sat together in the locker room after the latest debacle of a loss to the Clippers, whispering, giggling, like two wayward students who had just spent time in the principal’s office.
“We got too many gaps right now,’’ Woodson said at Staples Center after the locker room had been shut for more than 20 minutes because of an intense team meeting. “I got to get them playing to the level of last year. We need J.R. to play and score the ball. I need Iman to play and score the ball.’’
When Woodson criticized Shumpert for his defense on George and hailed referee Joey Crawford for his eagle eyes, the coach may have had good intentions. Perhaps he was trying to teach Shumpert a lesson. It wasn’t the time. Woodson needed to protect Shumpert. The foul call by the stickler Crawford cost the Knicks the game.
Woodson’s spiel lasted two days and it has shaken Shumpert’s spirit, confidence and moxie. It was a marginal foul and a less-bold referee would have let the play go and given the Knicks the home win instead of handing George three fouls shots at the Garden.
It took MSG Network’s freeze-frame slo-mo replays to catch the graze. While Shumpert was thrown under the bus by Woodson, the Knicks coach ramped up his rhetoric in defending Carmelo Anthony, earning a $25,000 fine for three days of knocking the referees for their unfair treatment of Anthony. As we have learned, Anthony and Amar’e Stoudemire, a minus-29 against the Clippers, are untouchables when it comes to public criticism from the head coach.
If Woodson lost Shumpert that night, the coach only has himself and his “tough love’’ tactics to blame. Earlier this week, Woodson angrily called the perception he doesn’t like Shumpert as a person “bull—-’’ and doesn’t want that theory “buzzing around’’ any longer.
Woodson isn’t saying he is perfect. Woodson admits he’s hard on Shumpert — just as he was hard on Smith last season. Smith responded with a career season, an NBA Sixth Man Award and a new contract. If we are going to give credit to Woodson for bringing out the best in the mercurial Smith, the coach also should take the hit for bringing out the worst in Shumpert, who in the two games out West has scored two points on 1-of-8 shooting with one steal and three rebounds.
I got to know Shumpert better than most journalists early on. During the NBA’s labor war, Shumpert wrote a weekly diary for The Post on being a locked-out rookie. Shumpert was the writer. I was his editor.
One time, I made an editing change that infuriated Shumpert because it made it look as if he was in awe of facing LeBron James and Dwyane Wade for the first time as a pro. “I’m not afraid of anybody,’’ he told me.
He played that way for his first two seasons, God bless him. He played with fire, fearlessness and ferocity. Until this season.
Something is wrong. Maybe seeing Denver’s Kenneth Faried, the ferocious rebounding forward Steve Mills wants to exchange for Shumpert on Friday night, will bring back the old Shump.
Knicks fans and his former editor miss him.

[shmeakone]

I'll go out & say he's the biggest disappointment (player) this season. I really had high hopes for him. You would think after the playoffs his confidence would be sky high& he'd come in even more improved.


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[mrpoetryNmotion]

Trade Shumpert for a bag of balls and then bitch and complain when he's playing better for another team.

There's nothing more to it.

[blueNorange]

He was great when he played with Lin

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10pts 3 rebs 2 asts on 39%FG


From the Nets game to the Cavs game before Melo came back. He's not who people think he is

those people are dumb for thinking shumpert is a scorer, in fact everyone here thinks every knick draftee is a potential top scorer. i'm sure most think timmy jr is a future 20 ppg player.

shumpert takes 4-6 shots a game, he's just being used as the scapegoat becuase smith sucks, amar'e sucks, and felton sucks.

[blueNorange]

http://nypost.com/2013/11/28/shump-changes-coach-having-effect-on-imans-confidence/

bermanbury capable of writing a good article but he was wrong on one thing, woodson wasn't hard on smith last year at all ... in fact he was always joking around with him and his father.

[Meat]

Trade Shumpert for a bag of balls and then bitch and complain when he's playing better for another team.

There's nothing more to it.

how many years should we hold out hope for some sort of "leap" or realization of potential?

[mrpoetryNmotion]

Trade Shumpert for a bag of balls and then bitch and complain when he's playing better for another team.

There's nothing more to it.

how many years should we hold out hope for some sort of "leap" or realization of potential?

Who is "we?" The team will trade Shumpert if they think they can upgrade the team by moving him. Nothing simpler than that on their part.

As a fan, how much longer should you continue holding out hope that he'll make some sort of leap? That's on you, your decision, everybody sees things differently. IMO, don't think he had D-Wade potential at all but think he is definitely better than he has shown so far (he is being brought down by playing with a crap team with crap coaching that doesn't suit his particular strengths). Wouldn't surprise me at all to see him get traded to a team that will utilize him better than we do, which will, in turn, make him look better, play better, etc. Which will lead to Knicks fans complaining about him and the franchise in a similar way fans have complained about Lin, Gallo, etc. If I was a betting man, I'd say the above is pretty likely and would put down on it. But I'm not a betting man.

Keep perspective.

[KnicksScholar24]

Speaking about Shumpert. I have to drop him from my Fantasy team. I kept him for one more game to see if he would break out of his season-long funk. He didn't.

The worst part is that someone offered me a trade for him a couple weeks ago and I turned it down. I thought he would start playing better by now. Plus he's like the only player in the fantasy league that could play 3 positions (PG, SG, & SF).

[bornaknick1]

Another wonderful performance from Iman Chumpert.

[Fat]

Should of took the waiters/Shump swap while you had the chance

[taj2133]

it time for him to leave this team he has been complete garbage this month