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Post#3041 » by ozwizard8 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:02 pm

markdeez33 wrote:All of these trades check out, barring the trade restrictions for recently signed players, I don't think the JR/Hansbrough deal could go through until January, but it's legal by the cap.

Knicks trade: Amare Stoudemire, Raymond Felton, Iman Shumpert
Celtics trade: Rajon Rondo, Brandon Bass, Gerald Wallace

Knicks trade: Andrea Bargnani
Rockets trade: Omer Asik

Knicks trade: Tyson Chandler, JR Smith
Raptors trade: Rudy Gay, Tyler Hansbrough

PG - Rondo/Prigioni/Udrih
SG - Hardaway Jr/C. Smith/Murry
SF - Gay/Wallace/World Peace
PF - Melo/Bass/Martin
C - Asik/Hansbrough/Aldrich


i started to seach a forum about knicks as an international fan and i found realgm like a month ago.
i recently reading this trading thread.

these plan looks legit.
i'm turkish and i know what omer asik wants. he wants to play more minutes, thats his goal.

**** 1ss
so bargnani for asik is legit trade and believe me o.asik without any injuries and young/fresh player is better than chandler.
asik+2nd rounder for=bargnani is possible too.

this would make rockets+knicks better.
****
then we should go for
rondo/lowry/waiters/j.jack/r.gay/jeff green.(2 or 3 of them needed.)

r.gay or jeff green would be so good with melo.
2 forward system with asik would be very good at both ends.
with this line-up r.rondo would be good but he's so valueable player. so much fans so i dont think celtics let him go.
lowry-j.jack-waiters are better targets. i personally want j.jack for being good pg and controlling the tempo.
waiters would be beast for us too. good perimeter defence+ penetrate ability in offense are vital for us.

rondo-waiters-gay-melo-asik would be wet dream for knicks fans.
j.jack-waiters-j.green-melo-asik would be still good for us.

send bargs get asik
send amare-chandler-iman-felton-jr and get one elite guard and sf/pf player.
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Post#3042 » by Marty McFly » Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:06 pm

i think doc would totally deal blake for melo.
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Post#3043 » by Meat » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:35 pm

Marty McFly wrote:i think doc would totally deal blake for melo.

i think the clippers would because they have little brother syndrome. melo is legit, blake is just popular, they're after legitimacy
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Post#3044 » by Marty McFly » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:49 pm

Meat wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:i think doc would totally deal blake for melo.

i think the clippers would because they have little brother syndrome. melo is legit, blake is just popular, they're after legitimacy

precisely.
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Post#3045 » by Thugger HBC » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:51 pm

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Thugger HBC wrote:CP3 and Melo might be friends, but CP didnt force his way here when he had the chance, he even denied he tried when the rumors came out.

CP couldn't force his way here. NY had nothing to give up that was even remotely worth him and even if a trade was made, Stern would have blocked it. This is like CP denying rumors he tried to squeeze water out of a rock.

If I recall his agent made the attempt to steer him towards NY, to which CP3 denied, so the opportunity was there, and besides the Clippers didnt exactly give up anything remotely close either.

CP3 and Melo are merely friends, this "playing together " stuff was fluff.
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Post#3046 » by Dr. Detfink » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:18 am

Knicks need to "dress up" Bargs and Shump and see if they can move up in the draft to get a top Point Guard. Contrary to Melo's missing vets...you need BOTH.
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Post#3047 » by Rasho Brezec » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:37 am

It makes too much sense for the Clippers to trade for Melo, they can play up the Melo - Kobe angle and spark that rivalry.
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Post#3048 » by TheGarden » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:50 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:CP3 and Melo might be friends, but CP didnt force his way here when he had the chance, he even denied he tried when the rumors came out.

CP couldn't force his way here. NY had nothing to give up that was even remotely worth him and even if a trade was made, Stern would have blocked it. This is like CP denying rumors he tried to squeeze water out of a rock.

If I recall his agent made the attempt to steer him towards NY, to which CP3 denied, so the opportunity was there, and besides the Clippers didnt exactly give up anything remotely close either.

CP3 and Melo are merely friends, this "playing together " stuff was fluff.


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Post#3049 » by shmeakone » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:52 am

Can we trade for Kyrie somehow? Cleveland is god awful.
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Post#3050 » by TheGarden » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:56 am

Paul and Melo want to play together, the opportunity was never able to come by outside from and I thought about this yesterday

Melo waiting until free agency and during the lockout off-season signing period when LAC trade for Paul they could have signed Melo straight up while keeping Blake, DJ, etc....they had the amnesty to open up space and could have easily moved whatever other contracts that were in the way
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Post#3051 » by Besart19 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:06 am

Rasho Brezec wrote:It makes too much sense for the Clippers to trade for Melo, they can play up the Melo - Kobe angle and spark that rivalry.


He can still sign for the LAL in 2014 or 2015 if wont exercise his option!

two years with buddy Chris, then with buddy Kobe for his last run for that MJ tying 6th
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Post#3052 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:06 am

TheGarden wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
CP couldn't force his way here. NY had nothing to give up that was even remotely worth him and even if a trade was made, Stern would have blocked it. This is like CP denying rumors he tried to squeeze water out of a rock.

If I recall his agent made the attempt to steer him towards NY, to which CP3 denied, so the opportunity was there, and besides the Clippers didnt exactly give up anything remotely close either.

CP3 and Melo are merely friends, this "playing together " stuff was fluff.


OH MY GOD I love how you always know what guys are thinking contrary to whats been stated and reported

Nothings been reported other than Chris Paul saying he did not demand a trade to NY....CONTRARY to reports.

You guys let the "toast" gas your heads up....Paul has zero interest playing with Melo.
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Post#3053 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:15 am

TheGarden wrote:Paul and Melo want to play together, the opportunity was never able to come by outside from and I thought about this yesterday

Melo waiting until free agency and during the lockout off-season signing period when LAC trade for Paul they could have signed Melo straight up while keeping Blake, DJ, etc....they had the amnesty to open up space and could have easily moved whatever other contracts that were in the way

The year of the lockout, the Clippers were UNDER the cap, thats how they won the bid for Chauncey so obviously the amnesty wouldnt be an option.

Thinking Melo was gonna lose money waiting for the lockout to end wasnt gonna happen either.

The only option for those two to play together was for Chris Paul to back his agent who was the one to put the rumors out there and force the league to trade him to NY....but he really didnt have the interest contrary to fan perception.
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Post#3054 » by Besart19 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:30 am

TheGarden wrote:Paul and Melo want to play together, the opportunity was never able to come by outside from and I thought about this yesterday

Melo waiting until free agency and during the lockout off-season signing period when LAC trade for Paul they could have signed Melo straight up while keeping Blake, DJ, etc....they had the amnesty to open up space and could have easily moved whatever other contracts that were in the way


Melo wanted Paul here in NY... They wanted a core of Chandler, Melo and Paul... But Stern wasnt that fool to take Amare contract in exchange for Paul. There's where Walsh/Grunnie erred. When NO turned down that offer, they should've amnestied him instead of Billups. If they did?!

We would've had a champ contender team: Tyson, Melo, Smith, Shump, Paul
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Post#3055 » by Besart19 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:32 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
TheGarden wrote:Paul and Melo want to play together, the opportunity was never able to come by outside from and I thought about this yesterday

Melo waiting until free agency and during the lockout off-season signing period when LAC trade for Paul they could have signed Melo straight up while keeping Blake, DJ, etc....they had the amnesty to open up space and could have easily moved whatever other contracts that were in the way

The year of the lockout, the Clippers were UNDER the cap, thats how they won the bid for Chauncey so obviously the amnesty wouldnt be an option.

Thinking Melo was gonna lose money waiting for the lockout to end wasnt gonna happen either.

The only option for those two to play together was for Chris Paul to back his agent who was the one to put the rumors out there and force the league to trade him to NY....but he really didnt have the interest contrary to fan perception.


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Post#3056 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:36 am

Besart19 wrote:
TheGarden wrote:Paul and Melo want to play together, the opportunity was never able to come by outside from and I thought about this yesterday

Melo waiting until free agency and during the lockout off-season signing period when LAC trade for Paul they could have signed Melo straight up while keeping Blake, DJ, etc....they had the amnesty to open up space and could have easily moved whatever other contracts that were in the way


Melo wanted Paul here in NY... They wanted a core of Chandler, Melo and Paul... But Stern wasnt that fool to take Amare contract in exchange for Paul. There's where Walsh/Grunnie erred. When NO turned down that offer, they should've amnestied him instead of Billups. If they did?!

We would've had a champ contender team: Tyson, Melo, Smith, Shump, Paul

Only issue......

a report came out in Yahoo! Sports on Thursday saying his agent told the Hornets the All-Star point guard would not sign a contract extension and wants to be traded to the Knicks.

But two league sources confirmed after the story broke that Paul’s agent, Leon Rose, never made the request to the Hornets.

“It is just rumors; you can’t control it,’’ Paul said. “It’s always going to happen, and it’s part of the game. I’m just happy to be back with my team.’’

http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2011/12/reports_of_pauls_agent_request.html

Chris Paul denied it all. essentially leaving his agent to dry outside.

We were all right here to witness it all, all Paul had to do was pull a "Melo".

He didnt.....now the only part that is true is melo wanted Chris Paul here, but there's no report saying the feeling was mutual from Chris Paul other than the toast.
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Post#3057 » by Besart19 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:03 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
Besart19 wrote:
TheGarden wrote:Paul and Melo want to play together, the opportunity was never able to come by outside from and I thought about this yesterday

Melo waiting until free agency and during the lockout off-season signing period when LAC trade for Paul they could have signed Melo straight up while keeping Blake, DJ, etc....they had the amnesty to open up space and could have easily moved whatever other contracts that were in the way


Melo wanted Paul here in NY... They wanted a core of Chandler, Melo and Paul... But Stern wasnt that fool to take Amare contract in exchange for Paul. There's where Walsh/Grunnie erred. When NO turned down that offer, they should've amnestied him instead of Billups. If they did?!

We would've had a champ contender team: Tyson, Melo, Smith, Shump, Paul

Only issue......

a report came out in Yahoo! Sports on Thursday saying his agent told the Hornets the All-Star point guard would not sign a contract extension and wants to be traded to the Knicks.

But two league sources confirmed after the story broke that Paul’s agent, Leon Rose, never made the request to the Hornets.

“It is just rumors; you can’t control it,’’ Paul said. “It’s always going to happen, and it’s part of the game. I’m just happy to be back with my team.’’

http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2011/12/reports_of_pauls_agent_request.html

Chris Paul denied it all. essentially leaving his agent to dry outside.

We were all right here to witness it all, all Paul had to do was pull a "Melo".

He didnt.....now the only part that is true is melo wanted Chris Paul here, but there's no report saying the feeling was mutual from Chris Paul other than the toast.


We had not the pieces for him be able to put a "Melo"... Maybe it's not Grunnie's fault that he didnt amnesty Amar'e... His knees were well known fragile (that offseason he also hurt his back)... I think Dolan is to loyal to Amar'e; that's why we didnt see that happen!! If he was amnestied, Paul or at least Dragic would've been in a Knick uniform now!! Melo, Paul and Tyson salary in 2012 would've been 48M (which is 10M below the cap)
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Post#3058 » by TheGarden » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:05 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
TheGarden wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:If I recall his agent made the attempt to steer him towards NY, to which CP3 denied, so the opportunity was there, and besides the Clippers didnt exactly give up anything remotely close either.

CP3 and Melo are merely friends, this "playing together " stuff was fluff.


OH MY GOD I love how you always know what guys are thinking contrary to whats been stated and reported

Nothings been reported other than Chris Paul saying he did not demand a trade to NY....CONTRARY to reports.

You guys let the "toast" gas your heads up....Paul has zero interest playing with Melo.


did he tell you that over dinner

stop with the hyperbole, you know no more than us

and how many times have players denied reports
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Post#3059 » by TheGarden » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:07 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
TheGarden wrote:Paul and Melo want to play together, the opportunity was never able to come by outside from and I thought about this yesterday

Melo waiting until free agency and during the lockout off-season signing period when LAC trade for Paul they could have signed Melo straight up while keeping Blake, DJ, etc....they had the amnesty to open up space and could have easily moved whatever other contracts that were in the way

The year of the lockout, the Clippers were UNDER the cap, thats how they won the bid for Chauncey so obviously the amnesty wouldnt be an option.

Thinking Melo was gonna lose money waiting for the lockout to end wasnt gonna happen either.

The only option for those two to play together was for Chris Paul to back his agent who was the one to put the rumors out there and force the league to trade him to NY....but he really didnt have the interest contrary to fan perception.


Thugger you dont know Chris Paul :lol:

how do YOU know where guys want to play and who they want to play with

wait wait are you Billy Hunter
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Post#3060 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:10 am

TheGarden wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
TheGarden wrote:Paul and Melo want to play together, the opportunity was never able to come by outside from and I thought about this yesterday

Melo waiting until free agency and during the lockout off-season signing period when LAC trade for Paul they could have signed Melo straight up while keeping Blake, DJ, etc....they had the amnesty to open up space and could have easily moved whatever other contracts that were in the way

The year of the lockout, the Clippers were UNDER the cap, thats how they won the bid for Chauncey so obviously the amnesty wouldnt be an option.

Thinking Melo was gonna lose money waiting for the lockout to end wasnt gonna happen either.

The only option for those two to play together was for Chris Paul to back his agent who was the one to put the rumors out there and force the league to trade him to NY....but he really didnt have the interest contrary to fan perception.


Thugger you dont know Chris Paul :lol:

how do YOU know where guys want to play and who they want to play with

wait wait are you Billy Hunter

The better question is.....do you? If you do....prove it like I did.

Lol billy isn't his agent.:lol:

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