The Official Eric Maynor Shrine

[nate33]

maynor is the worst NBA player I have ever seen.....we need him to sustain a major injury

No!!!!! Not possible........Not possible........


I'll match your Maynor with this guy any day.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqgYNPANWa0[/youtube]

Yes, that's probably the worst play in NBA history, but Ruffin was actually pretty decent for us most games.

Remember this game?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 30MEM.html

6 points, 11 boards, 4 assists, 7 blocks, 1 steal, 0 turnovers.

[hands11]

I would have no problem with this scrub making the 10-day minimum contract. That fact that he gets paid the BAE is beyond comprehension. His contract is one of the worst in the league considering his lack of production.

No it is not beyond comprehension.

The length to which this board engages in over reacting is truly legendary.

Every player that joins this team and that doesn't hit the ground running is a terrible move beyond comprehension.

I think all moves and trades matter like we all do and I would love to hit 100% on 100% of them. But that doesn't happen in the real world. Maynor was a marginal move that was worth taking. The team had floundered looking for the right personality and talent to put at back up PG for years. Price wasn't it. Nor was Mack. I would have loved to have kept Kirk, but that wasn't in the cards. Wolters was interesting as was Pierre Jackson, but they went in another direction because they wanted some vet experience there this year.

Crawford was the most talented of all of we could have had, so if there is any crying about this, it should be about letting him go for nothing. But alas, Crawford didn't fit for what they felt they wanted, and they never gave him enough PT at PG to see how he could develop there. Something I felt was a big mistake. Well given a chance, he looks like he is establishing a resume that should have him in the league for a while longer. If he ever gets to a place where he fixes his 3PT shooting form so he is more consistent, he can work his way into a valuable back up PG who can play on even a playoff team. And Crawford could actually run at PG if Wall went down.

Depending on what you want to focus on, the case can still be made that Crawford was the best option for back up PG given who was available in FA ( well he was ours ) and he was someone that could also play SG when needed.

http://bkref.com/tiny/aDhun

And his number keep trending in the right direction.

I wouldn't over react about Maynor to much. There will be other options. Thomas is in the wings. They are still building. We aren't the only team with back up PG issues.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... oint-Guard

[TGW]

Ok hands....whatever you say. We'll see once Wall goes down and the team starts losing games. Keep playing Wall 40+ minutes...yea that's a great idea.

And choosing Maynor over Blair was a smart move too. Instead, we are stuck playing a bunch of losers at the backup big positions.

[FreeBalling]

maynor is the worst NBA player I have ever seen.....we need him to sustain a major injury

No!!!!! Not possible........Not possible........


I'll match your Maynor with this guy any day.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqgYNPANWa0[/youtube]

Yes, that's probably the worst play in NBA history, but Ruffin was actually pretty decent for us most games.

Remember this game?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 30MEM.html

6 points, 11 boards, 4 assists, 7 blocks, 1 steal, 0 turnovers.

I'm sure I watched it, as it was the first game of the season. However, I do not recall any of the plays.

I have to ask, why does this particular game stick out in your memory.

[nate33]

Because he started center and led the team to victory with a pretty dominant stat line. Nobody is saying Ruffin is an all star. I'm just saying he was a useful, if limited role player who could be counted on to do his job. That's way better than Maynor and way better than a lot of players who have been on this team. Ruffin is absolutely NOT one of the worst players this franchise has ever had.

[mhd]

Yeah, Ruffin never had a high usage rate, was a fitness freak, and always played hard. He set good picks, and was a solid 5th big type who EJ relied upon too often. Ruffin is much better than Maynor is.

[montestewart]

Because he started center and led the team to victory with a pretty dominant stat line. Nobody is saying Ruffin is an all star. I'm just saying he was a useful, if limited role player who could be counted on to do his job. That's way better than Maynor and way better than a lot of players who have been on this team. Ruffin is absolutely NOT one of the worst players this franchise has ever had.

I remember that game clearly, remember sitting down to watch it not at all expecting a victory and hoping that that didn't get blown out too badly. Almost half the team was injured or suspended, including Haywood and Thomas. Playing on the road opener well the Grizzlies, coming off a 50 win season. Lots of players stepped up (Laron Profit!), with Jamison the only significant starter playing. That game helped me to recover from my post-Jordan era wtf?, priming me for the next round of dashed hopes. And Ruffin, a 5th big if ever there was one, starting and (to me) outplaying Pau Gasol.

PS: Ruffin was smart and understood and accepted his limitations. That one play was stupid, but it was an uncharacteristic moment in his career.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Yeah, Ruffin never had a high usage rate, was a fitness freak, and always played hard. He set good picks, and was a solid 5th big type who EJ relied upon too often. Ruffin is much better than Maynor is.

I recall being surprised at how effective Ruffin was in many of the small lineups EJ liked to use. Ruffin was a useful player.

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[FreeBalling]

Because he started center and led the team to victory with a pretty dominant stat line. Nobody is saying Ruffin is an all star. I'm just saying he was a useful, if limited role player who could be counted on to do his job. That's way better than Maynor and way better than a lot of players who have been on this team. Ruffin is absolutely NOT one of the worst players this franchise has ever had.

You are right Nate. Ruffin always hustled and was a good defender and I should give him his due respect. I do remember on the offensive side of the ball being horrified when he would shoot. His put backs/ dunks/tips were fine.

Good memory on pointing out that game.

[noworriesinmd]

I could get on the Maynor "bandwagon" IF he actually looked like he was trying.

Ves, sucked...but he tries, I can root for someone like that..

Maynor is a liability on defense. In the game vs ATL he constantly was getting lost by his man. He can't get past a pick. His man constantly beat him on the dribble. He is just not good defensively.


Maynor is a liability on offense. In the game vs ATL he would advance the ball past the half-court line and pause. He has no crossover moves. He is slow. He can't get to the rim. He doesn't pass well. His passes have no "zip". They are lazy. People were booing him last night...that is how bad he was. There was a cliff of a drop off after Wall.

I actually like Mack better than Maynor. I don't care what the stats say, but I never put down Mack. I thought he played hard every quarter. Granted he was slow and took shots he probably should not have...but he tried.

Maynor in my inexpert opinion is HOT GARBAGE.

[TGW]

At least Mack is 6'3 and built like a rock...he can be physical defensively and get through screens. Maynor gets caught in every screen, and he gets abused by the opposing point guard because of it.

[wizardry]

Maynor was able to join the worst bench in the league last year and get some production out of them. Says alot about this years Wizards bench

[nate33]

Maynor was able to join the worst bench in the league last year and get some production out of them. Says alot about this years Wizards bench

This statement is self-contradictory. If the bench was the worst in the league last year, how can you say he got production out of them. By definition, he got the worst production in the league out of them. This is hardly praiseworthy.

Incidentally, Maynor's on/off differential with Portland was -4.3. That is, he made the team 4.3 points worse per 100 possessions when he was on the floor. Maynor replaced Ronnie Price, who played backup PG for Portland over the first half of the season. Price's on/off differential was -1.5. So I guess you are saying that "getting production out of them" means that he made the worst bench in the league that much worse once he took over as backup PG.

You need to quit. Your continued defense of Maynor is embarrassing. He is a really, really bad player. It's unfathomable to me that EG felt such a strong compulsion to sign him to a 2-year deal on the first day of free agency. Pretty much ANY available vet minimum PG would have been better.

[JWizmentality]

wizardry is probably someone in Maynor's inner circle. Close friend or family member. In which case, all power to you, but he still stinks. If not, dude needs a hobby. President of Eric Maynor fan club? Membership: 1

[hands11]

Ok hands....whatever you say. We'll see once Wall goes down and the team starts losing games. Keep playing Wall 40+ minutes...yea that's a great idea.

And choosing Maynor over Blair was a smart move too. Instead, we are stuck playing a bunch of losers at the backup big positions.

Are you positioning this as some kind of counter argument to what I posted ?

Oh, and just so you know. This fella is playing a lot of minutes as well.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_ ... phen-curry

Averaging 41.8 over the last 5 games.

Just for the record, I would like to see Wall playing less minutes as well and like I said, I would rather have a Steve Blake or Kirk as the back up PG. I would even like Crawford as the back up PG better. Which again, for the record, I said about 1000 times. But as I posted, it didn't work out where that happened.

Maynor is what we got. Me.. I would rather have Crawford but I can deal with Maynor for now and want to see if he can settle in. If not, try Temple again. If not, make another move.

The better the line ups Maynor runs with, the better things should be. The more well oiled the starting group gets, the easier it will be to rest Wall throughout the game. 38 minutes isn't to much for Wall. He is averaging 39 in the last 4 wins.

[hands11]

Yeah, Ruffin never had a high usage rate, was a fitness freak, and always played hard. He set good picks, and was a solid 5th big type who EJ relied upon too often. Ruffin is much better than Maynor is.

So now we are comparing Ruffin to Maynor ?

And better yet, after 17 games ?

Board has to have some one as the most hated player I guess. Dray and McGee are gone.

If nothing else, he is helping Ves to not be in the spotlight. I'm sure Ves is happy to finally be out of the kill zone.

So Maynor could have been added to give some red meat to the fans who are quicker to boo someone then cheer. Anything Wall does bad now is greatly over shadowed by Maynor coming on the court. Same with Ves.

That EG is a genius.

[nate33]

Board has to have some one as the most hated player I guess. If nothing else, he is helping Ves to not be in the spotlight. I'm sure Ves is happy to finally be out of the kill zone.

I guess that's true. I do think less about how much I hate Vesely when I think about Maynor.

Seriously, Vesely has made me hate him less because he is playing better. He's still not good, but he's no longer boot-through-the-tv-screen awful.

Maynor's sucky play hasn't gotten me to overlook Seraphin, though. Seraphin has been an utter disaster so far.

[hands11]

Board has to have some one as the most hated player I guess. If nothing else, he is helping Ves to not be in the spotlight. I'm sure Ves is happy to finally be out of the kill zone.

I guess that's true. I do think less about how much I hate Vesely when I think about Maynor.

Seriously, Vesely has made me hate him less because he is playing better. He's still not good, but he's no longer boot-through-the-tv-screen awful.

Maynor's sucky play hasn't gotten me to overlook Seraphin, though. Seraphin has been an utter disaster so far.

Its all relative. Right ?

As is all of that to the fact they are now 8-9 record after a 2-7 start. But so is the fact the schedule got a lot easier.

So all things being equal, it looks like they were a 4th-5th seed team in the East with a hard schedule to start the year and a coach that didn't know how to work the rotations. Now the schedule got easier and the coach learned how to rotate them better.

Now they just have to keep it up over the course of a entire season and keep growing individually and as a team. This is where they wanted to be this year. Fighting for a solid playoff seed to get that experience and exposure. It was the next important step in the rebuild that will wash away the final stink of the lows of the Gilbert mess and Abe as the past owner.

Not terrible consider this is the beginning of year 4 of the rebuild since they drafted Wall. And boy would this do a ton for Wall who arrived to a franchise that is a total mess. I'm sure he will really enjoy the winning and that will help him grow as a player and leader. He should finally be able to get out of panic mode.

[Knighthonor]

Board has to have some one as the most hated player I guess. If nothing else, he is helping Ves to not be in the spotlight. I'm sure Ves is happy to finally be out of the kill zone.

I guess that's true. I do think less about how much I hate Vesely when I think about Maynor.

Seriously, Vesely has made me hate him less because he is playing better. He's still not good, but he's no longer boot-through-the-tv-screen awful.

Maynor's sucky play hasn't gotten me to overlook Seraphin, though. Seraphin has been an utter disaster so far.

Its all relative. Right ?

As is all of that to the fact they are now 8-9 record after a 2-7 start. But so is the fact the schedule got a lot easier.

So all things being equal, it looks like they were a 4th-5th seed team in the East with a hard schedule to start the year and a coach that didn't know how to work the rotations. Now the schedule got easier and the coach learned how to rotate them better.

Now they just have to keep it up over the course of a entire season and keep growing individually and as a team. This is where they wanted to be this year. Fighting for a solid playoff seed to get that experience and exposure. It was the next important step in the rebuild that will wash away the final stink of the lows of the Gilbert mess and Abe as the past owner.

Not terrible consider this is the beginning of year 4 of the rebuild since they drafted Wall. And boy would this do a ton for Wall who arrived to a franchise that is a total mess. I'm sure he will really enjoy the winning and that will help him grow as a player and leader. He should finally be able to get out of panic mode.

If they win, what would happen afterwards?

they likely go the route of the Bucks/Hawks.

Never go anywhere.

They lost their draft pick, and Nene is gone along with Aziza who both dont want to be here anymore.


LOL do you people ever think long term?

[hands11]

I guess that's true. I do think less about how much I hate Vesely when I think about Maynor.

Seriously, Vesely has made me hate him less because he is playing better. He's still not good, but he's no longer boot-through-the-tv-screen awful.

Maynor's sucky play hasn't gotten me to overlook Seraphin, though. Seraphin has been an utter disaster so far.

Its all relative. Right ?

As is all of that to the fact they are now 8-9 record after a 2-7 start. But so is the fact the schedule got a lot easier.

So all things being equal, it looks like they were a 4th-5th seed team in the East with a hard schedule to start the year and a coach that didn't know how to work the rotations. Now the schedule got easier and the coach learned how to rotate them better.

Now they just have to keep it up over the course of a entire season and keep growing individually and as a team. This is where they wanted to be this year. Fighting for a solid playoff seed to get that experience and exposure. It was the next important step in the rebuild that will wash away the final stink of the lows of the Gilbert mess and Abe as the past owner.

Not terrible consider this is the beginning of year 4 of the rebuild since they drafted Wall. And boy would this do a ton for Wall who arrived to a franchise that is a total mess. I'm sure he will really enjoy the winning and that will help him grow as a player and leader. He should finally be able to get out of panic mode.

If they win, what would happen afterwards?

they likely go the route of the Bucks/Hawks.

Never go anywhere.

They lost their draft pick, and Nene is gone along with Aziza who both dont want to be here anymore.

LOL do you people ever think long term?

Funny you should say that because I do a lot of thinking long term. I just see different options for outcomes and have different expectations.

Fact is, there are so many options for what they could do and how things could come together or fall apart, at some point you have to just enjoy the progress and wait to see what comes next.

You gotta get good before you can become great and there are only 4 great teams right now and two of them SA and Miami might not be able to keep it going much longer. Duncan is getting old and Miami is about to run into serious cap issues. That leaves Indy and OKC and where ever LeBron might go.

So in a nut shell, moving forward, it really kind of comes down to what team has KD or Lebron.

Other then that, you try to get a good as you can and hope one of them wants to play on your team. Or you build a solid team like Indy. So for now, you just enjoy the Wizards winning more and watching players like Wall develop since he is our best long term piece. Oh, and we have Beal. That's thinking long term. The third big piece is more likely coming via FA.

Right now they are more likely then not capped out at building a 2nd round or conference title level team. And thats ok for right now.