Monroe for Barnes

PistonPride · Post #1 » by **PistonPride** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 8:19 pm

I've been working on finding a way to turn Monroe into a good small forward and this is what I came up with

Detroit trades: Greg Monroe
Detroit receives Harrison Barnes Donatas motiejunas

Portland trades Lamarcus Aldridge
Portland receives: Jeremy Lin Greg Monroe

Golden state trades: David lee and Harrison Barnes
Golden state receives Lamarcus Aldridge

Houston trades: Jeremy Lin and Donatas motiejunas
Houston receives david lee

We get a stretch four and Barnes for Monroe and I think each team gets fair value although golden state may be giving up too much
We become
Jennings/Bynum
Kcp/Stuckey
Barnes/singler/datome
Smith/motiejunas/Villanueva
Drummond/harrelson

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Clarity · Post #2 » by **Clarity** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 8:28 pm

Another amazing realistic trade.

Post #3 » by **Timmaytime** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 8:43 pm

Golden State is giving up a future all-star to get someone who's just a little better at being David Lee than David Lee, what's the incentive there?

sc8581 · Post #4 » by **sc8581** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 8:57 pm

Timmaytime wrote:Golden State is giving up a future all-star to get someone who's just a little better at being David Lee than David Lee, what's the incentive there?

It's a dumb idea but how is Barnes a future all-star? He's been awful. Are you banking this on his 16.4 ppg in over 42mpg over his last 5 or something?

Natopher · Post #5 » by **Natopher** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 9:01 pm

This is actually a pretty good trade, but unless some picks or very solid bench players are traded around, I don't see Golden State doing it. I'd love to get Barnes in Detroit though. I think he'd fit really well on this team.

rock digger · Post #6 » by **rock digger** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 9:06 pm

Timmaytime wrote:Golden State is giving up a future all-star to get someone who's just a little better at being David Lee than David Lee, what's the incentive there?

Maybe he's a future all-star based on his playoff hype, but in all actuality he's been pretty average at best. Not to mention the fact that Lamarcus Aldridge is one of the best offensive PF in the league, not "a little better" than David Lee.

wallacex2jc · Post #7 » by **wallacex2jc** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 9:09 pm

This is amazing, fair value for every team.....in a dream scenario I would trade Monroe/CV for Leonard/Splitter (wouldn't mind throwing picks and even KCP). Maybe not fair for the Spurs but the Pistons would dominate with that line-up

How about Monroe, CV and Bynum for Tyreke Evans, Ryan Anderson and Anthony Morrow? Monroe and Davis can both play their original positions. Evans has been a disappointment as as the small forward position, with him in Detroit, it provides more ball handling and playmaking for the team. CV would help erase the Pelican's signing in Evans and this forms a bigger front court for NO with Monroe, Davis and Jason Smith. For us, the shooting woes would improve by a ton. Even though Anderson is a PF, but he can switch positions with Josh so they can operate where they're comfortable. Evans and Jennings still have potential to be the best playmaking backcourt in the NBA, if Cheeks molds them into it.

sc8581 · Post #8 » by **sc8581** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 9:19 pm

rock digger wrote:
Timmaytime wrote:Golden State is giving up a future all-star to get someone who's just a little better at being David Lee than David Lee, what's the incentive there?

Maybe he's a future all-star based on his playoff hype, but in all actuality he's been pretty average at best. Not to mention the fact that Lamarcus Aldridge is one of the best offensive PF in the league, not "a little better" than David Lee.

Lee is so much more efficient than Aldridge it's ridiculous, LMA is averaging 22ppg on 20 shots, that's garbage, Lee very well might be the better overall player. Better rebounder, passer, smarter player and plays a lot harder.

MrBigShot · Post #9 » by **MrBigShot** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 9:40 pm

Barnes' ceiling really hasn't that high. He can't create much outside of a two dribble pull up or straight line drive. Still...the way things are going right now Monroe has not played up to the max he will demand.

DTP · Post #10 » by **DTP** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 9:41 pm

Stopped reading when it involved LaMarcus Aldridge....especially for freakin Monroe and Lin.

Balrog · Post #11 » by **Balrog** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 10:06 pm

MrBigShot wrote:Barnes' ceiling really hasn't that high. He can't create much outside of a two dribble pull up or straight line drive. Still...the way things are going right now Monroe has not played up to the max he will demand.

I disagree. Barnes imo has a pretty good iso game. His back to back game and footwork already looks similar to Kobe's and still 21. Can't forget his athleticism aswell. Smart kid and level headed. Fun to watch.

As for the trade, value is pretty fair to everyone involved. Add Dorell Wright and I'm sure that trade will entice GSW even more.

sc8581 · Post #12 » by **sc8581** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 10:21 pm

Balrog wrote:
MrBigShot wrote:Barnes' ceiling really hasn't that high. He can't create much outside of a two dribble pull up or straight line drive. Still...the way things are going right now Monroe has not played up to the max he will demand.

I disagree. Barnes imo has a pretty good iso game. His back to back game and footwork already looks similar to Kobe's and still 21. Can't forget his athleticism aswell. Smart kid and level headed. Fun to watch.

As for the trade, value is pretty fair to everyone involved. Add Dorell Wright and I'm sure that trade will entice GSW even more.

If all this is true about Barnes then why has he been so inefficient, especially with all the attention his teammates demand?

Balrog · Post #13 » by **Balrog** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 10:29 pm

sc8581 wrote:
Balrog wrote:
MrBigShot wrote:Barnes' ceiling really hasn't that high. He can't create much outside of a two dribble pull up or straight line drive. Still...the way things are going right now Monroe has not played up to the max he will demand.

I disagree. Barnes imo has a pretty good iso game. His back to back game and footwork already looks similar to Kobe's and still 21. Can't forget his athleticism aswell. Smart kid and level headed. Fun to watch.

As for the trade, value is pretty fair to everyone involved. Add Dorell Wright and I'm sure that trade will entice GSW even more.

If all this is true about Barnes then why has he been so inefficient, especially with all the attention his teammates demand?

I'm not expecting him to show up every game, I was basely talking about his potential. He's a sophomore and is still learning his trade. At 21, with that kind of skill set, you are looking at a 20ppg guy in 2 - 3 years.

sc8581 · Post #14 » by **sc8581** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 10:33 pm

Balrog wrote:
sc8581 wrote:
Balrog wrote:
I disagree. Barnes imo has a pretty good iso game. His back to back game and footwork already looks similar to Kobe's and still 21. Can't forget his athleticism aswell. Smart kid and level headed. Fun to watch.

As for the trade, value is pretty fair to everyone involved. Add Dorell Wright and I'm sure that trade will entice GSW even more.

If all this is true about Barnes then why has he been so inefficient, especially with all the attention his teammates demand?

I'm not expecting him to show up every game, I was basely talking about his potential. He's a sophomore and is still learning his trade. At 21, with that kind of skill set, you are looking at a 20ppg guy in 2 - 3 years.

Anybody can score 20ppg if they take enough shots.

Balrog · Post #15 » by **Balrog** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 10:38 pm

sc8581 wrote:
Balrog wrote:
sc8581 wrote:
If all this is true about Barnes then why has he been so inefficient, especially with all the attention his teammates demand?

I'm not expecting him to show up every game, I was basely talking about his potential. He's a sophomore and is still learning his trade. At 21, with that kind of skill set, you are looking at a 20ppg guy in 2 - 3 years.

Anybody can score 20ppg if they take enough shots.

sc8581 · Post #16 » by **sc8581** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 10:42 pm

Balrog wrote:
sc8581 wrote:
Balrog wrote:
I'm not expecting him to show up every game, I was basely talking about his potential. He's a sophomore and is still learning his trade. At 21, with that kind of skill set, you are looking at a 20ppg guy in 2 - 3 years.

Anybody can score 20ppg if they take enough shots.

19 guys averaging 20+ppg right now and 7 are doing it inefficiently, only one of those guys is on a winning team, you don't think there's something to that?

Blkbrd671 · Post #17 » by **Blkbrd671** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 10:47 pm

Come on guys, Jeremy lin and Moose for a allstar. Ajax and Biglip, can we please require a post count minimum before creating threads. Absolutely no way Portland does this.

Q00 · Post #18 » by **Q00** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 11:03 pm

lol when I saw this thread the other day I thought someone was proposing Monroe for Matt Barnes.

Balrog · Post #19 » by **Balrog** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 11:07 pm

sc8581 wrote:
Balrog wrote:
sc8581 wrote:
Anybody can score 20ppg if they take enough shots.

19 guys averaging 20+ppg right now and 7 are doing it inefficiently, only one of those guys is on a winning team, you don't think there's something to that?

Unless you are implying that Barnes is a chucker, then I will continue rolling my eyes. :roll:

PistonPride · Post #20 » by **PistonPride** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 11:19 pm

Would asik in place of Lin make it a more viable deal for Portland?

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