Discussion: Should the Bucks trade Larry Sanders?

[paulpressey25]

Thread driven by Gery Woelfel last night on the postgame show, where he strongly suggested the Bucks should move on from Sanders, his contract and his problems. Given that the Bucks in the past will move guys with off-court problems, I don't think the question is out of the realm of possibility.

And quite likely someone in the front office floated the possibility to Gery a few weeks back. The Bucks obviously knew that video was out there and would cause them some temporary PR problems.

So, the questions are these:

1. Can GAD or someone else weigh in with the CBA restrictions? Can he be traded after 12/15/13 or 1/15/14? More importantly, given that he is on his rookie contract w/extension, what are the cap ramifications?

In the prior CBA, Larry would have been a poison pill class and almost impossible to trade, but I know they loosened some of that up in the recent CBA.

2. Do you think the Bucks should actively look at opportunities?

3. What trade ideas would you consider or agree to? Possible interested teams and their assets.

[ChuckBros4Life]

Based on how he's handling his night club incident on Twitter right now, my vote is yes https://mobile.twitter.com/LarrySanders

[LUKE23]

I don't think they should trade him, and definiltey not now, given how he's started the season. I believe his start was an aberration, and it's really tough to find elite interior defense.

Honestly, I don't break up the Giannis/Henson/Sanders trio unless the deal is obvious in our favor. I think they lock us into a top shelf defensive team annually as they progress. We're just missing that alpha offensive piece.

The guy I move is Ilyasova. I'd bump his minutes up big here while Sanders is still out, and we'll get calls on him before the deadline.

[EastSideBucksFan]

I'm not ready to give up on Larry at all.

In fact the timing of the injury will lead us to the desired record. He can use this time to reassess his priorities and get back to learning how to be a man and a professional basketball player.

We've gone to hell with this guy, I want to reap the rewards when he comes out on the other side.

[Nebula1]

From the other thread, obviously Houston is a loud partner for Ilyasova:

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6369541


Milwaukee In/Houston Out

Omer Asik
Donatas Motiejunas
Robert Covington (or Isaiah Canaan)
Future 1st round pick


Houston In/Milwaukee Out

Larry Sanders
Ersan Ilyasova


If I'm Houston, I'd give up a 1st to get this done, but not totally familiar with all the details around the picks and dates.


That said, I absolutely think Milwaukee should keep Sanders. Asik is a little overrated.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

if you supported moving andrew bogut at ANYTIME during his tenure here, then it makes zero sense to want to hang on to larry sanders.

move him for the best offer you can find.... and that includes a salary dump for cash if thats the best offer available.

[Ron Swanson]

The problem is that we have no idea what his trade value is right now. It can't be good when teams around the league look at the guy you just paid $44 million to, and after a rough couple games to start, is coming back from injury and is just now getting shopped around? We'd be getting low-balled by other GMs until they have a decent sample size to draw from.

If the price is right? Sure, but it would have to be at least a mid-1st and a young prospect for me to even consider it. People are jumping ship way too quickly on a guy that played like a top 3 defensive center last year...

[Treebeard]

The Bucks have way surpassed their quota of sell low trades.

No trade, unless this is a trade that involves an unrestricted low lottery pick this year, or a trade that Buford or Presti would make if they were here, instead of Hammond.

The Bucks would be getting low value in return - right now. Let Larry come back, and see what he's got. If he's no longer a fit, then trade him off-season - his value won't be lower than it is now.

[LUKE23]

if you supported moving andrew bogut at ANYTIME during his tenure here, then it makes zero sense to want to hang on to larry sanders.

move him for the best offer you can find.... and that includes a salary dump for cash if thats the best offer available.

[WRau1]

Sanders had a good run just in time for an extension, before that you can argue that he was the worst Buck under contract since he's been here. More and more is starting to come out about how unstable he is. I'd trade him as soon as you find a good deal.

[LUKE23]

My Lord, I'm glad many of you are not running this team.

[midranger]

Based on how he's handling his night club incident on Twitter right now, my vote is yes https://mobile.twitter.com/LarrySanders

There was this one time I threw a liter bottle full of liquor at some people, and then out of no where they "jumped" me. It's like they were mad I did that or something.

[Bucks_MacGyver]

My Lord, I'm glad many of you are not running this team.

this.

[worthlessBucks]

I'm certainly not in favor of trading Larry at his lowest value. He hasn't played at all this year and I'm sure we'd get a garbage return for him. I'm okay holding onto him and running the risk that he either kills someone or his talent disappears. This franchise just can't afford to give away its best pieces again. We're not going to be good for quite some time anyways. Also, including Sanders with Ersan would be one of the worst things we could do. Gery wants to do that, just stop talking Gery. "Asik is only 27".

[WRau1]

My Lord, I'm glad many of you are not running this team.

Yeah, too bad is isn't you running the show so we could have a lineup featuring Luke Babbitt and Joe Alexander.

[bigkurty]

I want to keep him. I just hope as he ages and matures he calms down a bit to prevent any future similar instances. What he needs is that alpha guy to keep him in check. Imagine him playing with Jordan back in the day or Kobe or Lebron right now. He would revere those guys and listen to their advice and thus not get in as much trouble. It always comes back to needing the alpha guy. #saveourbucks

[WRau1]

I'm certainly not in favor of trading Larry at his lowest value. He hasn't played at all this year and I'm sure we'd get a garbage return for him. I'm okay holding onto him and running the risk that he either kills someone or his talent disappears. This franchise just can't afford to give away its best pieces again. We're not going to be good for quite some time anyways. Also, including Sanders with Ersan would be one of the worst things we could do. Gery wants to do that, just stop talking Gery. "Asik is only 27".

Agree. I'd see what the offers were for Larry but I wouldn't give him away.

[JimmyTheKid]

Based on how he's handling his night club incident on Twitter right now, my vote is yes https://mobile.twitter.com/LarrySanders

Jesus, Larry. STFU. As I previously mentioned, my buddy knows the owner of 720 and Larry didn't start the fight. It was the Albanians. 1:00 of video doesn't change that. Obviously, Larry didn't help the situation by breaking a bottle over someone, but sh*t, anything goes in a drunken bar fight when you're outnumbered 20 to 1. That all being said, Larry is now trying to play the "victim" here? Victim of the fight and now victim of racism? GTFO.

I'm fine with trading Larry. Just not now. Let him string together a few nice performances first.

[glenn]

No.

[SpursNBucks]

My Lord, I'm glad many of you are not running this team.

Agreed!

First of all Woeful doesn't sheet!
This would be like someone who freaks out when the value of their stock dips, and continues to bail = locking onto those losses.

Larry needs to grow up for sure, but unless you think this last thing is a case of "cut your losses" - then you NEVER look to trade because his value is "fire sale" level right now. As mentioned his departure kind of works out this year because it helps with the tanking effort.