Discussion: Should the Bucks trade Larry Sanders?

[emunney]

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Milwaukee Out: Sanders/Ersan/2nd
Milwaukee In: Motiejunas/Jones/Noel

Houston Out: Asik/Motiejunas/Jones/2nd
Houston In: Sanders/Ersan

Philly Out: Noel
Phily In: Asik/2nd/2nd

Neither Philly nor Houston can do that deal under the CBA. And no way Philly would do it. I'd be thrilled, of course, because we make out like sexy bandits.

Sorry, trade checker approved it, that about the limit of my resources or knowledge.

and.. maybe the Sixers pull a Bucks and aim for the playoffs... Asik would make them 6-8 seed for sure,
Noel is out all of 2013-2014 which would be perfect for the Bucks tank.

Yeah, I think the trade checker is right actually. My bad. I forgot that the trade wiggle room is 50% now, which is kind of huge.

Still, Philly's not giving up Noel for Asik.

[Lippo]

Yeah I love Larry, but i can see him missing 2-15 games a year due to suspensions.

[Lippo]

Neither Philly nor Houston can do that deal under the CBA. And no way Philly would do it. I'd be thrilled, of course, because we make out like sexy bandits.

Sorry, trade checker approved it, that about the limit of my resources or knowledge.

and.. maybe the Sixers pull a Bucks and aim for the playoffs... Asik would make them 6-8 seed for sure,
Noel is out all of 2013-2014 which would be perfect for the Bucks tank.

Yeah, I think the trade checker is right actually. My bad. I forgot that the trade wiggle room is 50% now, which is kind of huge.

Still, Philly's not giving up Noel for Asik.

Who knows, NO gave him and a 1st for Holiday
If only we could have gotten that deal for Jennings :/

[Wooderson]

Who knows, NO gave him and a 1st for Holiday

They gave him to the team who you now suggest will trade him. The Holiday trade signaled two things. 1) Philly is looking to rebuild and set themselves up for a top pick 2) They really like Noel. They're not going to completely change their plan because they got off to an unexpected decent start.

[SupremeHustle]

I'd do Sanders and Ridnour for Bennett and Waiters today.

[JayMKE]

Well if there is an offer that blows you away, sure trade Sanders but if you guys are whining about Sanders' off the court issues and want to trade him because of that then absolutely not.

I know you guys all want some blue collar kid that wears knee high socks and loves his momma but I want to win and play entertaining basketball. I don't care if the athletes that play for my teams are good or bad guys, when it becomes an issue in the locker room its a problem. What he does otherwise is his problem. I think a lot of you guys are blowing Larry's problems WAYYYYYYYY out of proportion.

[engelmartin]

I like Sanders, but moving forward I'd really like to have an actual post presence on offense. He's good for what he is, but can you really contend without a true low post presence? It'd have to be the right deal, it'd take nothing less than a first round pick for me to consider it IMO. The offcourt issues aren't a problem in my mind other than the fact they've kept him off of the court this long.

[Ron Swanson]

Well if there is an offer that blows you away, sure trade Sanders but if you guys are whining about Sanders' off the court issues and want to trade him because of that then absolutely not.

I know you guys all want some blue collar kid that wears knee high socks and loves his momma but I want to win and play entertaining basketball. I don't care if the athletes that play for my teams are good or bad guys, when it becomes an issue in the locker room its a problem. What he does otherwise is his problem. I think a lot of you guys are blowing Larry's problems WAYYYYYYYY out of proportion.

This. Let's all quit acting like Larry is turning into Demarcus Cousins here. I've seen some of the most well intentioned people act crazy at a bar when they've had a little liquor in them. Charles Barkley sure as hell wasn't a boy scout, neither is Kevin Garnett or Chris Anderson, yet they still contributed as defensive anchors on championship level teams.

Until Larry's attitude starts to rub his teammates and coaches the wrong way, I could care less about his personal life, and I don't think anyone else should either. 15 years ago this wouldn't have even been an issue, but with the age of 24-hour social media, anything and everything is blown out of proportion it seems.

[JimmyTheKid]

Well if there is an offer that blows you away, sure trade Sanders but if you guys are whining about Sanders' off the court issues and want to trade him because of that then absolutely not.

I know you guys all want some blue collar kid that wears knee high socks and loves his momma but I want to win and play entertaining basketball. I don't care if the athletes that play for my teams are good or bad guys, when it becomes an issue in the locker room its a problem. What he does otherwise is his problem. I think a lot of you guys are blowing Larry's problems WAYYYYYYYY out of proportion.

I generally don't either. But it seems to be one thing after another with Larry. That thumbs-up-mocking-the-refs thing was cute the first time. It was old by the third time. And I don't really care too much about the bar fight, but what is he doing there two days before his baby is born? That says a lot about him. And now with the "woe is me" "I'm your entertainment" thing on twitter? Get outta here with that weak sh*t. YOU f***ed up. Own it.

[BUCKnation]

Every championship team has a crazy guy/enforcer. It just so happens our crazy guy is arguably our best player. It would be a terrible move to trade him right now.

[LUKE23]

I like Sanders, but moving forward I'd really like to have an actual post presence on offense. He's good for what he is, but can you really contend without a true low post presence? It'd have to be the right deal, it'd take nothing less than a first round pick for me to consider it IMO. The offcourt issues aren't a problem in my mind other than the fact they've kept him off of the court this long.

I may be alone on this but I believe Henson will develop into a solid, not great, but decent post option. Also, I'm not sure you need a great post option to contend. I do think you need elite defense though. Sanders under the right coach gives us that, assuming the rest of the roster isn't a bunch of sieves.

I guess I'm of the opinion that it's pretty hard to fluke a full season of great defense too. Players can get ridiculous hot from 3 like Mayo did in the first half of last year. But how do you fluke your way through an entire season of great defense? How often does that happen?

[glenn]

And I don't really care too much about the bar fight, but what is he doing there two days before his baby is born? That says a lot about him.

Huh? What was he supposed to be doing, constantly kneeling next to the pregnant mother of his child? She's pregnant, not at immenent risk to die of cancer.

NOTE:
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(Literature / Rhetoric) a deliberate exaggeration used for effect

[Nebula1]

I don't think you're getting Jones from Houston at this point. Better not. Jones is playing much better than Ersan and was the turning point for the Rockets' season.

[JimmyTheKid]

And I don't really care too much about the bar fight, but what is he doing there two days before his baby is born? That says a lot about him.

Huh? What was he supposed to be doing, constantly kneeling next to the pregnant mother of his child? She's pregnant, not about to immenently die of cancer.

I don't have any kids yet so what do I know...

Come to think of it, it was better he was at the club. If she went into labor and called him for a ride, he could have picked her up (drunk) and carpooled to the hospital. She could have the baby. He could get his hand stitched up. Talk about economical.

[EastSideBucksFan]

And I don't really care too much about the bar fight, but what is he doing there two days before his baby is born? That says a lot about him.

Huh? What was he supposed to be doing, constantly kneeling next to the pregnant mother of his child? She's pregnant, not at immenent risk to die of cancer.

I'm not a father, but talk to any wife who is expecting a baby in 1 or 2 days and I don't think a single one would endorse their husband getting drunk at a club by himself while she's at home.

[Buckrageous]

Ideally the Bucks would clean house in the front office and hire someone with direction to be charge of basketball operations. In the meantime they Bucks shouldn't trade anyone under 30 or any draft picks. The exception would be Udoh only because his contract is up. Let the new guy decide what he wants to do with the assets. I kow I don't want Hammond (or whoever has been making the trades) touching this team with trades.

On a basketball note, I keep having this hope that next year they have the offense running through Parker and GA with Knight and Mayo spreading the floor and Sanders playing the role of rim protector. Henson can backup Sanders and get some 4 minutes. Anyway they always suck an I intend to be overly optimistic about the future, we"ll see.

[Wooderson]

I'm not a father, but talk to any wife who is expecting a baby in 1 or 2 days and I don't think a single one would endorse their husband getting drunk at a club by himself while she's at home.

Do we even know if she was due at that time? Could easily have a few weeks early. Regardless, I think it's extreme to call him out on something that personal. Are we really going to crucify athletes for every aspect of their personal lives?

[tski1972]

And I don't really care too much about the bar fight, but what is he doing there two days before his baby is born? That says a lot about him.

Huh? What was he supposed to be doing, constantly kneeling next to the pregnant mother of his child? She's pregnant, not at immenent risk to die of cancer.

you seem to have as much common sense as Larry.

[bizarro]

No. No. No.

How would anyone in their right mind encourage John Hammond to get on the phone with anyone concerning a trade? There are simply too many reasons to not do this. Sanders' value is at its lowest. He's our most polished defensive presence in the post. He had a terrible start to the season - in addition to this ongoing off-court fiasco. If anything, you wait the season out and hope Larry gets healthy and regains last year's form and then some. Hope Hammond and Drew are fired and then and only then do your due diligence (as you would with any player) and investigate his value throughout the league.

BUT, others have pointed this out in this thread, let the bar fight go. It was a bar fight. I swear, this new age of constant scrutiny and social media has made everyone so judgmental and soft. It was a poor decision to continue to engage the situation. Fine. Let's see if Larry can learn from this and, gods forbid, we stick with a high upside player (who likes Milwaukee!) and see if he develops.

[Nebula1]

And I don't really care too much about the bar fight, but what is he doing there two days before his baby is born? That says a lot about him.

Huh? What was he supposed to be doing, constantly kneeling next to the pregnant mother of his child? She's pregnant, not at immenent risk to die of cancer.

The rule as always.. don't get married.