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If Rondo is available, why wouldn't the Pistons make a run for him? With the talented bigs on the Pistons roster, Rondo seems to be an ideal fit. I would think that his perimeter defense and ability to distribute would make them an immediate contender.
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I've been wanting to trade for Rondo too but I like Jennings alot lately. He's younger, healthier, can shoot, and is still learning how to play the point with better talent around him
Afflalo should be our primary trade target.
Afflalo should be our primary trade target.
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Afflalo and Rondo would compliment each other nicely as a backcourt on both sides of the ball. How to get them both though I don't know.
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DCintheD wrote:I've been wanting to trade for Rondo too but I like Jennings alot lately. He's younger, healthier, can shoot, and is still learning how to play the point with better talent around him
Afflalo should be our primary trade target.
This. Afflalo would be a perfect fit here. He addresses all of our needs..
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I like Jennings and I like his swag.
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Rondo, sure. Anyone but Jennings. Problem is they are essentially locked into Jennings now for at least two seasons with his ridiculous salary. You aren't going to have Jennings and Rondo on the same team, and Ainge isn't stupid enough to take Jennings in a trade. No one is. No one wanted him in the FA market, and no one is going to trade for him.
Forget it. Not happening.
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Forget it. Not happening.
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This is a double hate thread for me. I will believe Rondo can play basketball again, when I see him play basketball again, at the same level. He's injured, and as a team, you NEVER EVER trade for an injured player until he proves that he is 100%. You certainly don't trade for a player on Rondo's level, because of the tons of **** we would have to give up to get him. People talking about this realize that right? Right?
How people don't get this, is blowing my mind. Like people got dropped on their heads, and recently.
Secondly, why in the HELL are people hating on Jennings? I am just baffled by it. The Pistons have been a steaming pile of dog crap for more then a few years now, and now when the team is starting to look promising, and we have a PG that is averaging almost 9APG, hes terrible, and his contract is terrible?
Its like im **** insane.
Did he stab someones mom here or something?
I personally like Jennings, and his court vision. His shooting% is a little low right now, but hey, lets NOT take into account that hes on a brand new team, and is only one of three players in the starting group that can shoot the damn ball further out then 5feet.
I don't see the problem. I will give him a full year, and go from there. Bad contract? What? Did I miss some other free agent PG out there? WTF?
How people don't get this, is blowing my mind. Like people got dropped on their heads, and recently.
Secondly, why in the HELL are people hating on Jennings? I am just baffled by it. The Pistons have been a steaming pile of dog crap for more then a few years now, and now when the team is starting to look promising, and we have a PG that is averaging almost 9APG, hes terrible, and his contract is terrible?
Its like im **** insane.
Did he stab someones mom here or something?
I personally like Jennings, and his court vision. His shooting% is a little low right now, but hey, lets NOT take into account that hes on a brand new team, and is only one of three players in the starting group that can shoot the damn ball further out then 5feet.
I don't see the problem. I will give him a full year, and go from there. Bad contract? What? Did I miss some other free agent PG out there? WTF?
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DonVitoReturns wrote:Rondo, sure. Anyone but Jennings. Problem is they are essentially locked into Jennings now for at least two seasons with his ridiculous salary. You aren't going to have Jennings and Rondo on the same team, and Ainge isn't stupid enough to take Jennings in a trade. No one is. No one wanted him in the FA market, and no one is going to trade for him.
Forget it. Not happening.
Yeah, because 5th in the entire league in APG is pathetic for a guy that just shoots..
Jennings shot will always float around 40%, but his assists are WAY up.. If you would have said Jennings is top 5 in assists before the season started, you'd get laughed off here. He's finding guys open. He's averaging top 5 in assists with a team that can't shoot too..
I'm laughing at anyone that says Jennings play is an issue..
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Ughh afflalo is in every damn thread. He isnt that good. Please stop. Hes getting paid like 8mil a year for numerous seasons. Hes worth like 5. We could get someone maybe not as good, but fairly close for 5mil in the offseason. Wait for that.
Rondo is so good, and would love to have him, but the problem isnt ball movement, that has been very good actually. The problem is making shots, and defense. Rondo is a good defender, but offensively his lack of a jumpshot might create as many problems as his great passing and overall game fixes. Considering what would be needed to give up to get him, it needs to be a huge leap better than jennings rather than just the smaller one i imagine seeing.
You could say just get the best players on the floor, but you do have to consider the fit and try and complement the other players. As its set up now, you dont do it, but if you give up on havingthe 3 bigs, then it actually might be a really good fit to have a pure point with drum/monroe at the 4/5. (Smith is apart of the trade) and then you have capable shooters at the 2 and 3. All of a sudden that is a another identity that can win playoff games.
Rondo/KCP/?(trade jennings for)/monroe/dre. That is something that wouldnt be too bad, and a more conventional lineup, but it wont happen as its just way too early to trade both smith as jennings already. Let this current team continue to come together and panic later.
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Rondo is so good, and would love to have him, but the problem isnt ball movement, that has been very good actually. The problem is making shots, and defense. Rondo is a good defender, but offensively his lack of a jumpshot might create as many problems as his great passing and overall game fixes. Considering what would be needed to give up to get him, it needs to be a huge leap better than jennings rather than just the smaller one i imagine seeing.
You could say just get the best players on the floor, but you do have to consider the fit and try and complement the other players. As its set up now, you dont do it, but if you give up on havingthe 3 bigs, then it actually might be a really good fit to have a pure point with drum/monroe at the 4/5. (Smith is apart of the trade) and then you have capable shooters at the 2 and 3. All of a sudden that is a another identity that can win playoff games.
Rondo/KCP/?(trade jennings for)/monroe/dre. That is something that wouldnt be too bad, and a more conventional lineup, but it wont happen as its just way too early to trade both smith as jennings already. Let this current team continue to come together and panic later.
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Han Solo wrote:DonVitoReturns wrote:Rondo, sure. Anyone but Jennings. Problem is they are essentially locked into Jennings now for at least two seasons with his ridiculous salary. You aren't going to have Jennings and Rondo on the same team, and Ainge isn't stupid enough to take Jennings in a trade. No one is. No one wanted him in the FA market, and no one is going to trade for him.
Forget it. Not happening.
Yeah, because 5th in the entire league in APG is pathetic for a guy that just shoots..
Jennings shot will always float around 40%, but his assists are WAY up.. If you would have said Jennings is top 5 in assists before the season started, you'd get laughed off here. He's finding guys open. He's averaging top 5 in assists with a team that can't shoot too..
I'm laughing at anyone that says Jennings play is an issue..
His court vision is impressive but everything else about his game disgusts me.
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Jennings is doing just fine. He jacked shots for his first few games back, and then (for some random reason) got supported to "take over" even more, but he's actually keeping his shots down and looking to pass.
His defense pretty much sucks and always will, because he's a little stick figure of a man, but because of that his best bet is to gamble for steals. He does try to go over screens, but he literally can't go through ANYONE, so he has a problem if the screener does a good job.
As for running the offense, he's doing pretty good and improving weekly. I'm pleased, actually, at his efforts to adapt his game. Sure, he could be shooting better, but someone needs to take the shots when plays blow up, and I'd rather it was BJ than Josh.
Jennings gets a B from me so far. Smith gets a C-.
Oh, and say no to Rondo. Not unless we're changing our personnel at the 3 and 4 as well, because we certainly can't afford to play a lineup WITH JOSH FRIGGIN SMITH AS THE BEST 3PT SHOOTER.
His defense pretty much sucks and always will, because he's a little stick figure of a man, but because of that his best bet is to gamble for steals. He does try to go over screens, but he literally can't go through ANYONE, so he has a problem if the screener does a good job.
As for running the offense, he's doing pretty good and improving weekly. I'm pleased, actually, at his efforts to adapt his game. Sure, he could be shooting better, but someone needs to take the shots when plays blow up, and I'd rather it was BJ than Josh.
Jennings gets a B from me so far. Smith gets a C-.
Oh, and say no to Rondo. Not unless we're changing our personnel at the 3 and 4 as well, because we certainly can't afford to play a lineup WITH JOSH FRIGGIN SMITH AS THE BEST 3PT SHOOTER.
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Han Solo wrote:DonVitoReturns wrote:Rondo, sure. Anyone but Jennings. Problem is they are essentially locked into Jennings now for at least two seasons with his ridiculous salary. You aren't going to have Jennings and Rondo on the same team, and Ainge isn't stupid enough to take Jennings in a trade. No one is. No one wanted him in the FA market, and no one is going to trade for him.
Forget it. Not happening.
Yeah, because 5th in the entire league in APG is pathetic for a guy that just shoots..
Jennings shot will always float around 40%, but his assists are WAY up.. If you would have said Jennings is top 5 in assists before the season started, you'd get laughed off here. He's finding guys open. He's averaging top 5 in assists with a team that can't shoot too..
I'm laughing at anyone that says Jennings play is an issue..
He shoots 38 percent from the field. That's bad.
Horrible defender...just horrible.
Turnover machine - in fact he has 18 in the last three games...not always that bad but I don't trust him one bit against the better teams.
It takes him a century to get his 3 point shot off...he has to bring the ball up from below his waist and step into it.
Nearly every other shot he takes is off balance.
And the ultimate, laughable sin -- his inability to use his right hand with lay ups on the right side of the basket.
Give Bynum his minutes and he'll be fifth In assists with Drummond on the court as much as he is now...and I'm not a fan of Bynum either.
I desire something better out of the PG spot than B. Jennings
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I really cant engage in a real conversation with you because you said that Bynum would be better then Jennings, so that destroys and fires into the sun your credibility.DonVitoReturns wrote:Han Solo wrote:DonVitoReturns wrote:Rondo, sure. Anyone but Jennings. Problem is they are essentially locked into Jennings now for at least two seasons with his ridiculous salary. You aren't going to have Jennings and Rondo on the same team, and Ainge isn't stupid enough to take Jennings in a trade. No one is. No one wanted him in the FA market, and no one is going to trade for him.
Forget it. Not happening.
Yeah, because 5th in the entire league in APG is pathetic for a guy that just shoots..
Jennings shot will always float around 40%, but his assists are WAY up.. If you would have said Jennings is top 5 in assists before the season started, you'd get laughed off here. He's finding guys open. He's averaging top 5 in assists with a team that can't shoot too..
I'm laughing at anyone that says Jennings play is an issue..
He shoots 38 percent from the field. That's bad.
Horrible defender...just horrible.
Turnover machine - in fact he has 18 in the last three games...not always that bad but I don't trust him one bit against the better teams.
It takes him a century to get his 3 point shot off...he has to bring the ball up from below his waist and step into it.
Nearly every other shot he takes is off balance.
And the ultimate, laughable sin -- his inability to use his right hand with lay ups on the right side of the basket.
Give Bynum his minutes and he'll be fifth In assists with Drummond on the court as much as he is now...and I'm not a fan of Bynum either.
I desire something better out of the PG spot than B. Jennings
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With that said, it is easy. REAL easy to bitch and moan, and have ZERO solutions to the "problem". That is all you have done. The past means squat, because we cant rewind, and Bynum isn't even an option, so forget that.
So, what would YOU do to upgrade our PG spot, from 5th in the league in Assists? You HAVE to be within an assist, because the most important thing from a PG is being a general on the floor, and having court vision. I don't gives two **** if the PG can shoot, because we won a title with a PG that shot 39.4% from the floor, and scored 16.9PPG the year we won the title.
You have your mission, good luck, and god speed.
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zeebneeb wrote:I really cant engage in a real conversation with you because you said that Bynum would be better then Jennings, so that destroys and fires into the sun your credibility.DonVitoReturns wrote:Han Solo wrote:
Yeah, because 5th in the entire league in APG is pathetic for a guy that just shoots..
Jennings shot will always float around 40%, but his assists are WAY up.. If you would have said Jennings is top 5 in assists before the season started, you'd get laughed off here. He's finding guys open. He's averaging top 5 in assists with a team that can't shoot too..
I'm laughing at anyone that says Jennings play is an issue..
He shoots 38 percent from the field. That's bad.
Horrible defender...just horrible.
Turnover machine - in fact he has 18 in the last three games...not always that bad but I don't trust him one bit against the better teams.
It takes him a century to get his 3 point shot off...he has to bring the ball up from below his waist and step into it.
Nearly every other shot he takes is off balance.
And the ultimate, laughable sin -- his inability to use his right hand with lay ups on the right side of the basket.
Give Bynum his minutes and he'll be fifth In assists with Drummond on the court as much as he is now...and I'm not a fan of Bynum either.
I desire something better out of the PG spot than B. Jennings
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With that said, it is easy. REAL easy to bitch and moan, and have ZERO solutions to the "problem". That is all you have done. The past means squat, because we cant rewind, and Bynum isn't even an option, so forget that.
So, what would YOU do to upgrade our PG spot, from 5th in the league in Assists? You HAVE to be within an assist, because the most important thing from a PG is being a general on the floor, and having court vision. I don't gives two **** if the PG can shoot, because we won a title with a PG that shot 39.4% from the floor, and scored 16.9PPG the year we won the title.
You have your mission, good luck, and god speed.
Re-read the bit about Bynum, I don't think hes saying Bynum is better than Jennings.
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zeebneeb wrote:I really cant engage in a real conversation with you because you said that Bynum would be better then Jennings, so that destroys and fires into the sun your credibility.DonVitoReturns wrote:Han Solo wrote:
Yeah, because 5th in the entire league in APG is pathetic for a guy that just shoots..
Jennings shot will always float around 40%, but his assists are WAY up.. If you would have said Jennings is top 5 in assists before the season started, you'd get laughed off here. He's finding guys open. He's averaging top 5 in assists with a team that can't shoot too..
I'm laughing at anyone that says Jennings play is an issue..
He shoots 38 percent from the field. That's bad.
Horrible defender...just horrible.
Turnover machine - in fact he has 18 in the last three games...not always that bad but I don't trust him one bit against the better teams.
It takes him a century to get his 3 point shot off...he has to bring the ball up from below his waist and step into it.
Nearly every other shot he takes is off balance.
And the ultimate, laughable sin -- his inability to use his right hand with lay ups on the right side of the basket.
Give Bynum his minutes and he'll be fifth In assists with Drummond on the court as much as he is now...and I'm not a fan of Bynum either.
I desire something better out of the PG spot than B. Jennings
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With that said, it is easy. REAL easy to bitch and moan, and have ZERO solutions to the "problem". That is all you have done. The past means squat, because we cant rewind, and Bynum isn't even an option, so forget that.
So, what would YOU do to upgrade our PG spot, from 5th in the league in Assists? You HAVE to be within an assist, because the most important thing from a PG is being a general on the floor, and having court vision. I don't gives two **** if the PG can shoot, because we won a title with a PG that shot 39.4% from the floor, and scored 16.9PPG the year we won the title.
You have your mission, good luck, and god speed.
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We cannot have a player like rondo on this team with our bigs,the reason he was efficent with kg+pierce was because those 2 could shoot and rondo was able to penetrate and work in a non cludered front court.Having rondo come here and only being able to shoot 28% (12-13 season) from 3 would kill us.Jennings is proving he has the ability to be a leader on the floor and has good court vision.Just think jennings is 1 of our best 3pt shooters,so to hate the guy for taking them, seeing how no one in the starting lineup can makes no sense.Jennings has shown me that hes trying hard and deserves to be given a chance here.
As for bynum being able to put up those stats on a regular basis with our bigs,he hasant when he did have the chance,not to mention his court vision and passing is avg at best.
As for bynum being able to put up those stats on a regular basis with our bigs,he hasant when he did have the chance,not to mention his court vision and passing is avg at best.
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kurtis48239 wrote:We cannot have a player like rondo on this team with our bigs,the reason he was efficent with kg+pierce was because those 2 could shoot and rondo was able to penetrate and work in a non cludered front court.Having rondo come here and only being able to shoot 28% (12-13 season) from 3 would kill us.Jennings is proving he has the ability to be a leader on the floor and has good court vision.Just think jennings is 1 of our best 3pt shooters,so to hate the guy for taking them, seeing how no one in the starting lineup can makes no sense.Jennings has shown me that hes trying hard and deserves to be given a chance here.
As for bynum being able to put up those stats on a regular basis with our bigs,he hasant when he did have the chance,not to mention his court vision and passing is avg at best.
I don't mind the 3's he's taking if he's making 36% of them, I mind all of the bad 2's, turnovers and horrid defense.