12/6/13 Game Thread: Wizards (9-9) vs. Bucks (3-15)
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Re: 12/6/13 Game Thread: Wizards (9-9) vs. Bucks (3-15)
Well that sucked. I don't blame wall for the loss. I blame gortat for hilarious defense and randy for odd playcalling. Mil's bench looks way better then their starters. Henson was great.
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Re: 12/6/13 Game Thread: Wizards (9-9) vs. Bucks (3-15)
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Re: 12/6/13 Game Thread: Wizards (9-9) vs. Bucks (3-15)
LyricalRico wrote:Illmatic21 wrote:PeTBuLL wrote:Wall is the worst player ever when you in a clutch time...
He turns into an irrationally confident scrub
This game was lost when there were 2 minutes left in the 4th and Wall took that 3 from the corner after the offensive rebound. Had he brought the ball out and got a better shot, they could have been up 7 with a minute and a half to go.
Tired or not, if you're a professional PG you have to make a better decision.
Absolutely. As soon as he shot it, I shook my head. That was a horrible decision.
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Re: 12/6/13 Game Thread: Wizards (9-9) vs. Bucks (3-15)
There shouldn't be anyone blaming Wall or Ariza for this, they both carried us all night, although they both made some dumb mistakes in OT. Still, they were they only reason we got back in the game.
Wall - 30 pts, 8 ast, 3 rbs, 2 stl, 3 blk
Ariza - 22 pts, 12 reb, 4 ast, 4 stl, 2 blk
Wall - 30 pts, 8 ast, 3 rbs, 2 stl, 3 blk
Ariza - 22 pts, 12 reb, 4 ast, 4 stl, 2 blk
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Jimmy Recard wrote:There shouldn't be anyone blaming Wall or Ariza for this, they both carried us all night, although they both made some dumb mistakes in OT. Still, they were they only reason we got back in the game.
Wall - 30 pts, 8 ast, 3 rbs, 2 stl, 3 blk
Ariza - 22 pts, 12 reb, 4 ast, 4 stl, 2 blk
Well a 3rd rounder did get a career high. But we ll ignore that
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wizardry wrote:Not even wall can captain half our bench:)
You're such a dork...are you happy with that smilie face? Go away you frickin troll.
Some random troll wrote:Not to sound negative, but this team is owned by an arrogant cheapskate, managed by a moron and coached by an idiot. Recipe for disaster.
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Re: 12/6/13 Game Thread: Wizards (9-9) vs. Bucks (3-15)
Outside of Booker who was 3-6, the bench shot 3-20 from the field tonight.
Awful.
Awful.
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wizardry wrote:Jimmy Recard wrote:There shouldn't be anyone blaming Wall or Ariza for this, they both carried us all night, although they both made some dumb mistakes in OT. Still, they were they only reason we got back in the game.
Wall - 30 pts, 8 ast, 3 rbs, 2 stl, 3 blk
Ariza - 22 pts, 12 reb, 4 ast, 4 stl, 2 blk
Well a 3rd rounder did get a career high. But we ll ignore that
that dude has been playing pretty darn good this year. Also, no matter how great you are, there are certain teams that just matchup well with you. Something about the Bucks style will probably always trouble us.
I thought late in the 4th and the whole OT, we settled way too much for jumpers. Thats why we lost but again, that is probably a fatigue issue. When youre tired, you always settle for the J
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Well, when u are setting -up Singleton for a game-winner, what more needs to be said?
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Re: 12/6/13 Game Thread: Wizards (9-9) vs. Bucks (3-15)
Wall made some boneheaded plays (particularly that three early in the shotclock.. does he think he's Steph Curry?). I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because he was tired.. my anger just goes back to EG and the atrocious roster he has built. I wouldn't blame Wall for wanting to get the hell out of DC
But hey it could be worse. At least our franchise PG didn't put up this statline:
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400489155
But hey it could be worse. At least our franchise PG didn't put up this statline:
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400489155
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Re: 12/6/13 Game Thread: Wizards (9-9) vs. Bucks (3-15)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4jGSvxCRp4[/youtube]
absolutely crappy loss. I think the loss of Webster kind of shocked the team for the 2nd quarter but they gotta be professionals. I also don't understand Randy's infatuation with Singleton. He isn't the type of guy you allow to take more then 5 shots a game.
What sucks even more is Den is gonna come in and really test us (I imagine no Nene for that game). Truthfully the best thing we could get in terms of backup PG play is Maynor blowin out his knee again and getting an injury exception to sign a D-Leaguer who will more than likely be light-years better then Maynor.
This team needed a wake up call though. They aren't a 50 win team yet and they need to try every night. Mad props to the Bucks young guys.
And more important than anything else, hopefully Webster doesn't miss too much time.
absolutely crappy loss. I think the loss of Webster kind of shocked the team for the 2nd quarter but they gotta be professionals. I also don't understand Randy's infatuation with Singleton. He isn't the type of guy you allow to take more then 5 shots a game.
What sucks even more is Den is gonna come in and really test us (I imagine no Nene for that game). Truthfully the best thing we could get in terms of backup PG play is Maynor blowin out his knee again and getting an injury exception to sign a D-Leaguer who will more than likely be light-years better then Maynor.
This team needed a wake up call though. They aren't a 50 win team yet and they need to try every night. Mad props to the Bucks young guys.
And more important than anything else, hopefully Webster doesn't miss too much time.
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Two top 6 picks in the last 3 drafts
30 minutes
1-5 shooting
4 rebounds
2 assists
2 points
AWESOME!
30 minutes
1-5 shooting
4 rebounds
2 assists
2 points
AWESOME!
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I ain't even mad, so many more games to play.
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you guys know Im not the biggest Temple fan but I was screaming for him to be in the game over Singelton. Even Sinngleton's face makes me sick. How many shots did he have to miss before he gets benched? Not only that but he was playing the SF spot which moved Ariza to the 2. IDK if you guys payed attention but that completely changed our Offense. In the past it never mattered because we always have either Webster or Beal on the court so its not a huge difference who is the 2 or the 3.
In this case though it was major. When we run the p&r, the small forward stays on the same side of the floor as Gortat or the big who is setting the pick. That allows Wall to have vision of both guys when he comes off the screen. He can throw it short back to Gortat and if they go hard at him he can skip the cross court pass to Ariza. The problem is the SG in that situation is in the near corner, right beside Wall. Wall wont clearly see him or be looking to go his way because the rest of the play is for the Center or the SF. If he does pass to the SG, then its usually a contested shot because the defenders are closer.
Sometimes the SG pass is open because the defnese overcommits so much after Wall has picked them apart with the Center & the SF but most of the time it wont be. To me this means Witt shouldve adjusted. He either shouldve played Temple over Singleton who probably wouldve did better than 1-10 and it wouldve had Ariza on the far side instead of Singleton. Or he couldve still played Singleton but made him the SG and left Ariza at the 3 so he could be the shooter getting all the looks on the far side.
In this case though it was major. When we run the p&r, the small forward stays on the same side of the floor as Gortat or the big who is setting the pick. That allows Wall to have vision of both guys when he comes off the screen. He can throw it short back to Gortat and if they go hard at him he can skip the cross court pass to Ariza. The problem is the SG in that situation is in the near corner, right beside Wall. Wall wont clearly see him or be looking to go his way because the rest of the play is for the Center or the SF. If he does pass to the SG, then its usually a contested shot because the defenders are closer.
Sometimes the SG pass is open because the defnese overcommits so much after Wall has picked them apart with the Center & the SF but most of the time it wont be. To me this means Witt shouldve adjusted. He either shouldve played Temple over Singleton who probably wouldve did better than 1-10 and it wouldve had Ariza on the far side instead of Singleton. Or he couldve still played Singleton but made him the SG and left Ariza at the 3 so he could be the shooter getting all the looks on the far side.
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Re: 12/6/13 Game Thread: Wizards (9-9) vs. Bucks (3-15)
Upper Decker wrote:Two top 6 picks in the last 3 drafts
30 minutes
1-5 shooting
4 rebounds
2 assists
2 points
AWESOME!
I'm not worried about Porter but you are correct to be mad at Jan. I'm guessing we'll see a seraphin siting soon with Webster/Nene prolly gonna be out for Monday.
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B-easy wrote:I ain't even mad, so many more games to play.
well I am. When you win the previous game and you hear the stat that this is the 1st time the Wiz have been .500 in Wall's career but yet you go right back under the next game against the worst team in the league, at home? You cant lose that game. Espically when you are up 5 late.
Then to add the icing on the cake, you lose 2 more starters. I told everyone that I was so uneasy about the stuff I heard early this week about Nene saying he's hurting bad. Then you have Wall telling him that they need him out there and Gortat saying that 50% of Nene is better than nothing. You could just tell Nene didnt want to play but felt he had to. It was just an accident waiting to happen. We already know Nene is fragile anyways and so far Beal hasnt been that far behind.
Add that to having a horrible bench with a horrible coach and it just puts alot of strain on everyone
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Re: 12/6/13 Game Thread: Wizards (9-9) vs. Bucks (3-15)
LyricalRico wrote:It still boggles my mind that this team seems to have zero actual plays they can run when they need a bucket.
This was my biggest beef tonight.
Dog tired, out of ideas... Several possessions late in the 4th, when we were up by two or four. We needed timeouts and structured sets.
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Re: 12/6/13 Game Thread: Wizards (9-9) vs. Bucks (3-15)
PeTBuLL wrote:Wall is the worst player ever when you in a clutch time...
Bulls fan can talk when Rose's knees hold up for an entire season. K, thanks, bye.
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Re: 12/6/13 Game Thread: Wizards (9-9) vs. Bucks (3-15)
dlts20 wrote:B-easy wrote:I ain't even mad, so many more games to play.
well I am. When you win the previous game and you hear the stat that this is the 1st time the Wiz have been .500 in Wall's career but yet you go right back under the next game against the worst team in the league, at home? You cant lose that game. Espically when you are up 5 late.
Then to add the icing on the cake, you lose 2 more starters. I told everyone that I was so uneasy about the stuff I heard early this week about Nene saying he's hurting bad. Then you have Wall telling him that they need him out there and Gortat saying that 50% of Nene is better than nothing. You could just tell Nene didnt want to play but felt he had to. It was just an accident waiting to happen. We already know Nene is fragile anyways and so far Beal hasnt been that far behind.
Add that to having a horrible bench with a horrible coach and it just puts alot of strain on everyone
Toxic shock syndrome is a pretty rough injury, though.
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Gotta also give Larry Drew credit. He called timeouts immediately when he noticed stuff was up. He is a proactive coach. I like that. Randy is very reactive, doesn't stop bleeding until the damage is done. Drew would make a good doctor, Randy would leave you limbless.









