The Trade Thread

[DetroitPistons]

We have some good pieces assets with Monroe, Smith, Stuckey, and KCP. I would love to package those guys to bring in a star.

[srt4b]

You guys have already posted all the trades. Monroe for a starting/borderline all star SF is the only trade that makes sense. All the good SFs aren't on the block or the teams wouldn't benefit by adding Monroe and losing them.

We need a 2006 Tayshaun Prince type of dude.

It's a tough situation.

[DetroitPistons]

Pistons in: Rajon Rondo, Jeff Green, Gerald Wallace
Pistons out: Greg Monroe, Brandon Jennings, Rodney Stuckey, Charlie Villanueva,

Boston in: Rajon Rondo, Jeff Green, Gerald Wallace
Boston out: Greg Monroe, Brandon Jennings, Rodney Stuckey, Charlie Villanueva

Rondo/Billups/Bynum
Caldwell-Pope/Singler
Green/Wallace
Smith/Green/Jerebko
Drummond/Harrelson

Thoughts?

[Q00]

On the Monroe vs Smith trade debate, its certainly possible that neither of them are the answer. If we had to choose one, I'd side with the better defender in Smith, but with the way Drummond can dominate inside by himself, maybe we don't even need to be paying that much for a PF period. Maybe just a cheap utility guy who can shoot and play defense like Harrellson is the best answer, and then take that money and invest it all in 2 star scorers at SG and SF.

Not sure who those players would be, but it does seem kind of unnecessary for us to have such a dominant Center, and then have to invest big money in 2 more high priced bigs to play with him. Part of the luxury of having a dominant Center is that you are pretty much set up front with just 1 player, and can then use the rest of the capspace elsewhere.

You look at the Shaq/Duncan championship teams, and they won with just role players next to them most of those titles. 35 yr old Horace Grant, Horry, Nazr Mohammed, Oberto, etc. So if Drummond is trending towards that level of Center, maybe that's all we need up front, and should be looking to eventually deal both Monroe/Smith.

Right now though, I think its probably best to keep both if it can result in us getting a 3rd-4th seed this year. And just take a year to establish ourselves as a playoff team first. I would hate to make a big move and then go backwards because of it. I think if a good offer comes for Monroe though, we would have to take it, because if you aren't going to keep him longterm, then you have to get something. If we are going to trade him. going after Carmelo to pair with Drummond still makes the most sense to me, as we aren't going to find another opportunity to get a scorer of that level, and Dre/Melo could become this era's Shaq/Kobe in terms of a dominant inside-out duo. Then you can just fill in cheap role players around them

[sc8581]

On the Monroe vs Smith trade debate, its certainly possible that neither of them are the answer. If we had to choose one, I'd side with the better defender in Smith, but with the way Drummond can dominate inside by himself, maybe we don't even need to be paying that much for a PF period. Maybe just a cheap utility guy who can shoot and play defense like Harrellson is the best answer, and then take that money and invest it all in 2 star scorers at SG and SF.

Not sure who those players would be, but it does seem kind of unnecessary for us to have such a dominant Center, and then have to invest big money in 2 more high priced bigs to play with him. Part of the luxury of having a dominant Center is that you are pretty much set up front with just 1 player, and can then use the rest of the capspace elsewhere.

You look at the Shaq/Duncan championship teams, and they won with just role players next to them most of those titles. 35 yr old Horace Grant, Horry, Nazr Mohammed, Oberto, etc. So if Drummond is trending towards that level of Center, maybe that's all we need up front, and should be looking to eventually deal both Monroe/Smith.

Right now though, I think its probably best to keep both if it can result in us getting a 3rd-4th seed this year. And just take a year to establish ourselves as a playoff team first. I would hate to make a big move and then go backwards because of it. I think if a good offer comes for Monroe though, we would have to take it, because if you aren't going to keep him longterm, then you have to get something. If we are going to trade him. going after Carmelo to pair with Drummond still makes the most sense to me, as we aren't going to find another opportunity to get a scorer of that level, and Dre/Melo could become this era's Shaq/Kobe in terms of a dominant inside-out duo. Then you can just fill in cheap role players around them

I actually agree that moving Smith and Monroe to bring in players that better fit next to Drummond would probably make the most sense but it would be tricky if you can't somehow move them both in one deal.

[Warspite]

On the Monroe vs Smith trade debate, its certainly possible that neither of them are the answer. If we had to choose one, I'd side with the better defender in Smith, but with the way Drummond can dominate inside by himself, maybe we don't even need to be paying that much for a PF period. Maybe just a cheap utility guy who can shoot and play defense like Harrellson is the best answer, and then take that money and invest it all in 2 star scorers at SG and SF.

Not sure who those players would be, but it does seem kind of unnecessary for us to have such a dominant Center, and then have to invest big money in 2 more high priced bigs to play with him. Part of the luxury of having a dominant Center is that you are pretty much set up front with just 1 player, and can then use the rest of the capspace elsewhere.

You look at the Shaq/Duncan championship teams, and they won with just role players next to them most of those titles. 35 yr old Horace Grant, Horry, Nazr Mohammed, Oberto, etc. So if Drummond is trending towards that level of Center, maybe that's all we need up front, and should be looking to eventually deal both Monroe/Smith.

Right now though, I think its probably best to keep both if it can result in us getting a 3rd-4th seed this year. And just take a year to establish ourselves as a playoff team first. I would hate to make a big move and then go backwards because of it. I think if a good offer comes for Monroe though, we would have to take it, because if you aren't going to keep him longterm, then you have to get something. If we are going to trade him. going after Carmelo to pair with Drummond still makes the most sense to me, as we aren't going to find another opportunity to get a scorer of that level, and Dre/Melo could become this era's Shaq/Kobe in terms of a dominant inside-out duo. Then you can just fill in cheap role players around them

But can we do that not knowing if Dre will be that dominate C? Would we realy win more games with Dre as our #1 option when he isnt ready yet. I personaly would want to know if Dre is going to be Shaq or Stanley Roberts before I move Monroe.

[Piston Pete]

TORONTO wants to tank.

We help them by taking on some of their long-term contracts and sending them CV and his large expiring deal plus Siva and his unguaranteed deal.

CV (expiring)
Jerebko
Siva
Future 2nd rounder

for

Amir Johnson
Grevis Vasquez
Steve Novak

[rmfc]

TORONTO wants to tank.

We help them by taking on some of their long-term contracts and sending them CV and his large expiring deal plus Siva and his unguaranteed deal.

CV (expiring)
Jerebko
Siva
Future 2nd rounder

for

Amir Johnson
Grevis Vasquez
Steve Novak

Not sure how this trade helps the Pistons.

[Piston Pete]

Jennings / Vasquez
KCP / Stuckey
Smith / Singler
Monroe / Amir / Novak (stretch-4)
Drummond / Monroe

[ComboGuardCity]

Drummond is still just a very good garbage man. You can't build around him yet


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[DetroitDon15]

Pistons in: Rajon Rondo, Jeff Green, Gerald Wallace
Pistons out: Greg Monroe, Brandon Jennings, Rodney Stuckey, Charlie Villanueva,

Boston in: Rajon Rondo, Jeff Green, Gerald Wallace
Boston out: Greg Monroe, Brandon Jennings, Rodney Stuckey, Charlie Villanueva

Rondo/Billups/Bynum
Caldwell-Pope/Singler
Green/Wallace
Smith/Green/Jerebko
Drummond/Harrelson

Thoughts?

No way I do that deal unless Boston send their 2014 unprotected to us. The Rondo to the Pistons rumor needs to stop.

[menten]

Pistons in: Rajon Rondo, Jeff Green, Gerald Wallace
Pistons out: Greg Monroe, Brandon Jennings, Rodney Stuckey, Charlie Villanueva,

Boston in: Rajon Rondo, Jeff Green, Gerald Wallace
Boston out: Greg Monroe, Brandon Jennings, Rodney Stuckey, Charlie Villanueva

Rondo/Billups/Bynum
Caldwell-Pope/Singler
Green/Wallace
Smith/Green/Jerebko
Drummond/Harrelson

Thoughts?

jennings is better than rondo whos coming of an acl tear. plus he has higher upside an a better jumpshot. it would defenitly do green for monroe though

Drummond is still just a very good garbage man. You can't build around him yet

garbage big who scores exactly as many points per 36 as our supposed low post presence greg monroe ...

[Hotmayo]

Hopefully the Knicks keep having a horrible season so joe can offer Monroe and cv for melo

[tradez401]

welp some much for trading stuckey when his trade value was at its highest now hes injured again

[BadMofoPimp]

Hopefully the Knicks keep having a horrible season so joe can offer Monroe and cv for melo

Melo should have been a Piston all along . . . and the Knicks are fckd anyways.

They have $91 Million committed next season with Melo and like $68 Mil comitted if he opts out.

And, nobody is going to take Amare, Tyson or Bargs off their hands while their only Assets are Tim Hardaway JR and Shumpert.

Not much.

Plus, they have no 1st round draft pick as it goes to Denver next summer!!!

Knicks are FCKD!!!

And, I love it!!!

[ElectricMayhem]

I'll admit, I don't know as much about the players in this trade to know who is getting shafted...It could be terrible all around, I don't know. What do you think?

Detroit Trades:
Greg Monroe (To Philadelphia)
Charlie Villanueva (To Sacremento)
Jonas Jerebko
2014 2nd Round Pick

Detroit Receives:
Thad Young
Jason Thompson

Philadelphia Trades:
Thad Young (To Detroit)
Tony Wroten (To Sacremento)

Philadelphia Receives:
Greg Monroe
Jonas Jerebko

Sacramento Trades:
Jason Thompson (To Detroit)

Sacramento Receives:
Charlie Villanueva
Tony Wroten
2014 2nd Round Pick

Why for Detroit:
We even out our lineup (Jennings, KCP, Young, Smith, Drummond) and add a solid backup big in Thompson.

Why for Philadelphia
They are trading medium for slightly bigger, always a plus when trading for similar talent.

Why for Sacremento
I don't know exactly what they are looking for, or what Thompson is worth, but a solid backup PG, cap space, and a pick doesn't seem bad for someone who hasn't shown himself to be spectacular.

[sc8581]

Young is a **** PF that can score at times but doesn't defend well, Thompson is a 3rd big at best on a winning team. This would still leave us without a SF.

[Warspite]

replace Young with Turner and gets closer but Turner cant shoot 3s any better than Monroe or Smith.

[Piston Pete]

BLOCKBUSTER TIME


PISTONS GET:
PF Kevin Love
SF Martell Webster

PISTONS GIVE:
PF Josh Smith
PF/C Greg Monroe
SF Kyle Singler

Jennings
KCP
Webster
Love
Drummond



TWOLVES GET:
PF/C Greg Monroe
SF Trevor Ariza
C Jan Vesely

TWOLVES GIVE:
PF Kevin Love

Rubio
Martin
Ariza
Monroe
Pekovic



WIZARDS GET:
PF Josh Smith
SF Kyle Singler

WIZARDS GIVE:
SF Trevor Ariza
SF Martell Webster
C Jan Vesely

Wall
Beal
Porter / Singler
Smith
Gortat

[DetroitPistons]

I'm warming up more and more to trading Monroe with each passing game. He is disappearing and soon his value will start to fall. It's time to sell. Although, I'm still totally fine with dumping Smith instead.

Monroe/Jerebko for Chandler/Arthur?

Jennings/Billups
Caldwell-Pope/Stuckey
Chandler/Singler
Smith/Arthur
Drummond/Harrelson