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Discussion: Should the Bucks trade Larry Sanders?

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Re: Discussion: Should the Bucks trade Larry Sanders? 

Post#281 » by emunney » Mon Dec 9, 2013 1:07 am

LedZepp007 wrote:And the hard ons for Burks and Lamb continue


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Yeah, who'd want Lamb? He'd only be the 2nd most promising player on our team.
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Post#282 » by Baddy Chuck » Mon Dec 9, 2013 1:10 am

Lamb sure hasn't shown any promise this season that's for sure.
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Re: Discussion: Should the Bucks trade Larry Sanders? 

Post#283 » by LedZepp007 » Mon Dec 9, 2013 1:14 am

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LedZepp007 wrote:And the hard ons for Burks and Lamb continue


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Yeah, who'd want Lamb? He'd only be the 2nd most promising player on our team.


Didn't say I wouldn't want him. Said people are too high on him. IMHO he still hasn't shown much.

And second most promising on this team isn't saying much.


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Re: Discussion: Should the Bucks trade Larry Sanders? 

Post#284 » by Baddy Chuck » Mon Dec 9, 2013 1:21 am

If you don't take risks on young guys that haven't fully developed then you have an extremely slim chance of getting a good young player. Lamb has shown great potential, as have Adams and Jackson.
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Re: Discussion: Should the Bucks trade Larry Sanders? 

Post#285 » by raferfenix » Mon Dec 9, 2013 1:22 am

I just don't buy his value taking such a big hit because of this.

Can we track when Gery started reporting so negatively on Sanders? Seems like there's a bit of a vendetta going on there.

And I probably trade Sanders for Adams / Lamb, if only because I'm concerned that Larry will help us enough to hurt the tank.
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Re: Discussion: Should the Bucks trade Larry Sanders? 

Post#286 » by bizarro » Mon Dec 9, 2013 1:34 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:Would you guys trade Larry Sanders to the Thunder for a package returning Steven Adams and either Jeremy Lamb or Reggie Jackson?


I do that trade in a heartbeat. For either Lamb or Jackson.

This would be a huge boon to our youth movement. Adams is a legitimate 2-way Center with infinitely more offensive potential than Larry. Couple that with one of two up-and-coming young guard prospects. Sold.
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Re: Discussion: Should the Bucks trade Larry Sanders? 

Post#287 » by ConoverBucks » Mon Dec 9, 2013 1:36 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:Would you guys trade Larry Sanders to the Thunder for a package returning Steven Adams and either Jeremy Lamb or Reggie Jackson?


Yes but there's no way OKC would do that.

I don't think that deal would work financially and OKC already has their shot blocker in Ibaka. They won't take on a big contract like Sanders seeing as they don't want to go into the luxury tax. Plus they really like Adams and Lamb.
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Re: Discussion: Should the Bucks trade Larry Sanders? 

Post#288 » by Thunder Muscle » Mon Dec 9, 2013 3:51 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Thread driven by Gery Woelfel last night on the postgame show, where he strongly suggested the Bucks should move on from Sanders, his contract and his problems. Given that the Bucks in the past will move guys with off-court problems, I don't think the question is out of the realm of possibility.

And quite likely someone in the front office floated the possibility to Gery a few weeks back. The Bucks obviously knew that video was out there and would cause them some temporary PR problems.

So, the questions are these:

1. Can GAD or someone else weigh in with the CBA restrictions? Can he be traded after 12/15/13 or 1/15/14? More importantly, given that he is on his rookie contract w/extension, what are the cap ramifications?

In the prior CBA, Larry would have been a poison pill class and almost impossible to trade, but I know they loosened some of that up in the recent CBA.

2. Do you think the Bucks should actively look at opportunities?

3. What trade ideas would you consider or agree to? Possible interested teams and their assets.


I would listen to offers but I think his value is probably mediocre after the club incident, general anger issues, and now has a hefty contract. He's now a high risk, high reward guy not a low risk, high reward. I'm in the camp of let's see what he can do with the Henson, Giannis core. I know he was struggling before the injury, but it was a 3 game sample size. I think he'll at the very least get back to what he did last year, and I think we'd all be happy with that.
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Re: Discussion: Should the Bucks trade Larry Sanders? 

Post#289 » by Thunder Muscle » Mon Dec 9, 2013 3:54 am

Wooderson wrote:"Gery Woelfel on Bucks trading Larry Sanders..."

FTFY Gery. His thighs must be blistering red given how hard he's riding Sanders 24/7. If Caron had been in a similar situation Woelfel would be applauding him for interacting with his fans on a personal level.


Yeah, Gery gets on those vendettas sometimes. He was always ragging on Skiles. I think he was on Bogut at the end. Kind of take what he says as a grain of salt.
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Re: Discussion: Should the Bucks trade Larry Sanders? 

Post#290 » by cinematographer » Mon Dec 9, 2013 6:14 am

So... you guys know Larry had the third best defensive xRAPM in the league last year, right? On top of being the best -- or one of the three best -- rim protectors in the league, right? http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/2013.html

Read the article and check out the quotes and listen to the videos here -- http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bas ... lock-party -- and genuinely consider whether that player is going to forget how to play defense after throwing bottles at Albanians.

Too much of the risk/reward analysis here is discounting just how good of a defender Larry is.
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Re: Discussion: Should the Bucks trade Larry Sanders? 

Post#291 » by JEIS » Mon Dec 9, 2013 1:33 pm

cinematographer wrote:So... you guys know Larry had the third best defensive xRAPM in the league last year, right? On top of being the best -- or one of the three best -- rim protectors in the league, right? http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/2013.html

Read the article and check out the quotes and listen to the videos here -- http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bas ... lock-party -- and genuinely consider whether that player is going to forget how to play defense after throwing bottles at Albanians.

Too much of the risk/reward analysis here is discounting just how good of a defender Larry is.



Larry played poorly all season. He is a hot head and has made this organization the laughingstock of the NBA. You can't have a player like that as the face of your franchise. Last year we loved Larry....This is the Year of Giannis!
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Re: Discussion: Should the Bucks trade Larry Sanders? 

Post#292 » by GeeWiz » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:11 am

What would it take to get Sanders in Washington? Not sure what his value is sitting at.


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