Stein: Strong possibility Bucks active due to slow start

Lippo · Post #261 » by **Lippo** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:10 am

Mayo for Derozan

Baddy Chuck · Post #262 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:12 am

Lippo wrote:Mayo for Derozan

Would help the tank.

Baddy Chuck · Post #263 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:37 am

cinematographer wrote:
drew881 wrote:I'll repeat my question from before. I could totally see them wanting Middleton. What would it take?

Ibaka, if we didn't have Sanders and Henson. But we do, so nothing.

Ibaka would be a great fit next to Sanders, like almost perfect.

Chuck Diesel · Post #264 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:48 am

The Mayo trade I like is to Detroit for Charlie Villanueva.

Orlwillbeback · Post #265 » by **Orlwillbeback** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:57 am

sorry to hear about the news

you want to be lubed or straight?

cinematographer · Post #266 » by **cinematographer** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:13 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
cinematographer wrote:
drew881 wrote:I'll repeat my question from before. I could totally see them wanting Middleton. What would it take?

Ibaka, if we didn't have Sanders and Henson. But we do, so nothing.

Ibaka would be a great fit next to Sanders, like almost perfect.

Well, OKC also wouldn't do it. And while Ibaka would be close to our best best player, I don't think he's at such a tier of greatness that his addition would justify the sparseness on the wings moving forward.

Orlwillbeback · Post #267 » by **Orlwillbeback** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:24 am

if you guys end up making another horrible trade you should organize a protest or something.

4xBuck · Post #268 » by **4xBuck** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:11 pm

Buckrageous wrote:The late first has little value too. I could see Mayo for the 1st but not with Perkins.

Perkins has to be in any trade with Mayo to OKC, it's the contract thing... The Bucks would have to be compensated for taking on that contract.

I don't really care if it's Lamb or 1st round picks coming back in the trade.

Mayo & Udoh for Perkins, Gomez & the two 2014 1st rounders would be OK.

4xBuck · Post #269 » by **4xBuck** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:15 pm

LedZepp007 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:I'm not sure you get a late first for Mayo. He's a semi useful player, but he's a bad contract.

Mayo's contract isn't good but it's far from bad.

Exactly.

If he's still a Buck next year, the 2 years at $16M is solid.

LUKE23 · Post #270 » by **LUKE23** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:49 pm

I'm guessing Mayo has very little trade value.

Ron Swanson · Post #271 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:01 pm

LUKE23 wrote:I'm guessing Mayo has very little trade value.

This year, probably not. The next two years that's a very movable contract though.

OJ still has a valuable NBA skill in being able to create his own shot, the problem is that he's severely overpaid for the role that he would play on a contending team if we traded him there. If he were paid say $5 million per instead of 8, he'd be an incredibly valuable asset to certain teams IMO.

As of now, he provides us with relatively consistent offense, all while not putting us in position to win many games. So I'm fine with him for the remainder of this year. Wait until next year or the year after when he'll be an expiring and have more value. It will also perfectly coincide with a 3-year rebuild window.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #272 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:10 pm

LUKE23 wrote:I'm guessing Mayo has very little trade value.

agree..... if your defining trade value as guys on rookie deals and first round picks.

my guess is he's in the same ballpark as sanders and ersan tho. just depends on the team.

LUKE23 · Post #273 » by **LUKE23** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:21 pm

Same ballpark as Sanders? LOL, no. Maybe to a team like the Kings or something, but not to GM's with a brain.

MrPerfect1 · Post #274 » by **MrPerfect1** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:57 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:I'm guessing Mayo has very little trade value.

This year, probably not. The next two years that's a very movable contract though.

OJ still has a valuable NBA skill in being able to create his own shot, the problem is that he's severely overpaid for the role that he would play on a contending team if we traded him there. If he were paid say $5 million per instead of 8, he'd be an incredibly valuable asset to certain teams IMO.

As of now, he provides us with relatively consistent offense, all while not putting us in position to win many games. So I'm fine with him for the remainder of this year. Wait until next year or the year after when he'll be an expiring and have more value. It will also perfectly coincide with a 3-year rebuild window.

$8 Mil/year is not a bad value for Mayo. $5 Mil/year is more of a backup type contract like a Dunleavy Jr (yes he makes a little less than that because he took a discount to play with CHI)

4xBuck · Post #275 » by **4xBuck** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:06 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:I'm guessing Mayo has very little trade value.

This year, probably not. The next two years that's a very movable contract though.

OJ still has a valuable NBA skill in being able to create his own shot.

He has value this year, especially when taking back a truly bad contract.

With OKC, for them to turn Perkins & Gomez into Mayo & Udoh, there's some substantial value there.

Post #276 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:07 pm

MrPerfect1 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:I'm guessing Mayo has very little trade value.

This year, probably not. The next two years that's a very movable contract though.

OJ still has a valuable NBA skill in being able to create his own shot, the problem is that he's severely overpaid for the role that he would play on a contending team if we traded him there. If he were paid say $5 million per instead of 8, he'd be an incredibly valuable asset to certain teams IMO.

As of now, he provides us with relatively consistent offense, all while not putting us in position to win many games. So I'm fine with him for the remainder of this year. Wait until next year or the year after when he'll be an expiring and have more value. It will also perfectly coincide with a 3-year rebuild window.

$8 Mil/year is not a bad value for Mayo. $5 Mil/year is more of a backup type contract like a Dunleavy Jr (yes he makes a little less than that because he took a discount to play with CHI)

Would love some of whatever you're smoking.

But I probably wouldn't accept it because it's illegal.

dedned · Post #277 » by **dedned** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:15 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
MrPerfect1 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
This year, probably not. The next two years that's a very movable contract though.

OJ still has a valuable NBA skill in being able to create his own shot, the problem is that he's severely overpaid for the role that he would play on a contending team if we traded him there. If he were paid say $5 million per instead of 8, he'd be an incredibly valuable asset to certain teams IMO.

As of now, he provides us with relatively consistent offense, all while not putting us in position to win many games. So I'm fine with him for the remainder of this year. Wait until next year or the year after when he'll be an expiring and have more value. It will also perfectly coincide with a 3-year rebuild window.

$8 Mil/year is not a bad value for Mayo. $5 Mil/year is more of a backup type contract like a Dunleavy Jr (yes he makes a little less than that because he took a discount to play with CHI)

Would love some of whatever you're smoking.

But I probably wouldn't accept it because it's illegal.

That's reasonable.

InsideOut · Post #278 » by **InsideOut** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:19 pm

Who else wanted Mayo when we were trying to sign him? Who else thought he was worth $8 million. If they didn't want him then at less than $8 million why would anyone want him now? My money is on us keeping Mayo until the deal expires.

Seems like expiring contracts don't have as much value anymore. I can't recall the last time we even traded a player where the other team wanted him because he was expiring. I must be missing someone?

Ron Swanson · Post #279 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:23 pm

MrPerfect1 wrote:
$8 Mil/year is not a bad value for Mayo. $5 Mil/year is more of a backup type contract like a Dunleavy Jr (yes he makes a little less than that because he took a discount to play with CHI)

Which is exactly what I view OJ as, a back up type player on a contending team much like Dunleavy.

The fact that he's still young (25) and still has perceived potential caused us to slightly overpay. He's a starter on a bad team, but a valuable 6th man to other teams with established back courts.

PedroGrande · Post #280 » by **PedroGrande** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:24 pm

InsideOut wrote:Who else wanted Mayo when we were trying to sign him? Who else thought he was worth $8 million. If they didn't want him then at less than $8 million why would anyone want him now? My money is on us keeping Mayo until the deal expires.

Seems like expiring contracts don't have as much value anymore. I can't recall the last time we even traded a player where the other team wanted him because he was expiring. I must be missing someone?

Scrubs with expiring contracts dont have much value, but for a average player that can help with something on a team they still have value even if they are overpaid