Raps' Official 2013-14 Trade Idea Thread

[StopitLeo]

John Salmons is going to turn out to be a pretty good piece. I could easily see us moving him with Hansbrough


Salmons + Hansbrough for Perkins + 2014 first

According to the trade board, OKC may trade Lamb for a vet swingman. Not sure if they want Salmons, but maybe Salmons, Ross, Hansborough for Perkins and Lamb?

Seems like a crappy trade from Toronto's perspective. Do you think Lamb is actually that much better than Ross? I think that is debatable.

Perkins is set to make like $9.5M next year which is all guaranteed. Hansborough is on a great value contract at $3-3.5M. I don't think Perkins brings anything worth $6M to the table.

In addition, Salmons only has $1M guaranteed if we waive him before July 1st so this doesn't save us any money on his deal.

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John Salmons is going to turn out to be a pretty good piece. I could easily see us moving him with Hansbrough


Salmons + Hansbrough for Perkins + 2014 first

According to the trade board, OKC may trade Lamb for a vet swingman. Not sure if they want Salmons, but maybe Salmons, Ross, Hansborough for Perkins and Lamb?

No, no, no. That's awful. You're giving OKC huge cap relief, Hansbrough who is a useful big for them, and Ross, while taking back a stiff, Lamb and a very late first. Poor value. People should just leave value from our side out of this. Salmons saves the Thunder all but $1 million of Perkins' final $9m year. Right there, that justifies adding in Lamb and a first, or a pair of future firsts. Late firsts have a nominal historical value of $3-4m.

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Golden state might be a decent fit for Kyle Lowry, they don't have a backup PG and they can offer draft pick which could be in range from 12-17 but they don't any fillers to match the salary.

Why don't people who post in this thread check this out: They don't have their first, and right now they can't trade their 2015 pick, and because they owe their 2017 first rounder to Utah, they can't trade their 2016 or 2018 firsts. Unless they want to give us Harrison Barnes in a package, there is nothing to be done with GSW even if they have a really crappy bench which is causing a lot of concern.

[mjg13]

Golden state might be a decent fit for Kyle Lowry, they don't have a backup PG and they can offer draft pick which could be in range from 12-17 but they don't any fillers to match the salary.

Golden State has some large TPEs that they can trade for Lowry but they cant trade a 1st until 2019 so we would have to settle for prospects like Bazemore

[IRS]

To TOR: PHI 2014 first round pick (lottery protected for 2014 and 2015) from Miami, and Joel Anthony.
To MIA: Cash considerations, trade exception (from Rudy Gay).

Not sure how badly Miami is looking to save money, but this move clears almost 4 million in Joel Anthony's salary (and if im not mistaken, they save double that in tax money). For us it is all about assets, we get a possible first round pick through Philly (which turns into 2 second round picks if we don't get a first by 2015) and Anthony's deal ends next year, still preserving our 2015 cap space.

[Kayjay]

not a trade idea, but getting james johnson for some wing depth seems like a decent idea right? he's with the rio grande valley vipers avging 18/8/4

he was fun to watch and the offense could use some comedy turnovers

[TheFreshPrince]

Would something like Pierce + Plumlee for Lowry, Fields + Novak work?

The Nets get insurance for DWill in return for the struggling Pierce. The Raps get a young back-up Centre for JV and rid themselves of the Fields and Novak deals.

[Rapsfan07]

To Indiana: Kyle Lowry, Landry Fields
To Toronto: Danny Granger

Anyone think the Pacer's pull the trigger?

They add Kyle Lowry who fits like a glove in the Pacers system. He's a very cheap guard who can rebound, defend and add some much needed scoring to the team. Also, Hill hasn't been playing very well this season so he can be brought off the bench to spark the offense with Fields and Scola and give the starting spot to Lowry. Pacers also add Landry Fields who can also rebound, defend, has a high BBIQ and can allow them to rest George a little bit longer as SF is a very shallow position for them. Granger is hurt and unlikely to contribute much this season so I can't see the Pacers getting a better offer for him than a starting quality PG and a bench wing anyways. Lowry and Fields help them win now.

For Toronto, instead of fishing for a low draft pick (which are usually more of a shot in the dark anyways), I prefer to use the value that Lowry has now to offload Fields' deal. If Amir is moved, Lowry is the last tradeable positive asset we have and if Fields (or Hayes) isn't offloaded with him, it will hurt our capspace going forward. So instead of paying for Lowry in highly coveted picks, Indiana pays by taking on Fields who isn't a bad addition either. We take on Granger who is a big enough name to keep the average fan interested, will help us tank by not playing AND expires at the end of the season giving us a good amount of capspace.

Thoughts?

Indiana is definitely a potential landing spot for Lowry but Indiana will not take back any salary beyond this season. They will not go into Tax and they need to resign "Born Ready" Stephenson which is going to prove to be difficult as is. Needs to be a 3 Team trade where Granger is going somewhere else to make it work in my mind...

Why would you want Granger going elsewhere when he's valuable to is as an expiring contract? He's a pretty big expiring that can't play so I can't see many teams lining up for him unless they're sending back future salary to the Pacers. If they don't want future salary, that's their call but I think we're a good landing spot for Granger.


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[Rapsfan07]

To TOR: PHI 2014 first round pick (lottery protected for 2014 and 2015) from Miami, and Joel Anthony.
To MIA: Cash considerations, trade exception (from Rudy Gay).

Not sure how badly Miami is looking to save money, but this move clears almost 4 million in Joel Anthony's salary (and if im not mistaken, they save double that in tax money). For us it is all about assets, we get a possible first round pick through Philly (which turns into 2 second round picks if we don't get a first by 2015) and Anthony's deal ends next year, still preserving our 2015 cap space.

The protection on that Philly pick is actually lotto protected for the next two years and then it disappears. Since philly will be in the lotto for the next two years barring a miracle, the deal is Lowry for nothing which id obviously decline


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[BillyGM]

I would like to get Solomon Hill from Indiana. I see potential in him.

[Rapsfan07]

Would something like Pierce + Plumlee for Lowry, Fields + Novak work?

The Nets get insurance for DWill in return for the struggling Pierce. The Raps get a young back-up Centre for JV and rid themselves of the Fields and Novak deals.

I'd pull the trigger on this


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[dhackett1565]

With CHI apparently interested in DJA, maybe they'd be more interested in Lowry. And everyone is interested in Amir, and cap relief.

Lowry + Amir for Boozer + CHI 2014 1st OR CHA 2014 1st.

Or, if they want a more permanent starter...

Lowry + Amir + DD for Boozer + Hinrich + CHI 2014 1st AND CHA 2014 1st.

[Rapsfan07]

Would something like Pierce + Plumlee for Lowry, Fields + Novak work?

The Nets get insurance for DWill in return for the struggling Pierce. The Raps get a young back-up Centre for JV and rid themselves of the Fields and Novak deals.

I'd pull the trigger on this but they don't get Novak. I'd want to package Amir and Novak for Asik instead.


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[TheFreshPrince]

Would something like Pierce + Plumlee for Lowry, Fields + Novak work?

The Nets get insurance for DWill in return for the struggling Pierce. The Raps get a young back-up Centre for JV and rid themselves of the Fields and Novak deals.

I'd pull the trigger on this but they don't get Novak. I'd want to package Amir and Novak for Asik instead.


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Why would you want Asik when you would have JV and Plumlee?

[Wasp]

In light of the recent report of Lamb being dangled for bench help:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=p4rvkjm

DeMar
Lowry (offset with KMart's TPE)
Amir

FOR

Perkins
Jackson
Lamb
PJ3

Who says no?

[sweetcity]

[quote="Wasp"]In light of the recent report of Lamb being dangled for bench help:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=p4rvkjm

DeMar
Lowry (offset with KMart's TPE)
Amir

FOR

Perkins
Jackson
Lamb
PJ3

its very appealing. The reason why I say yes, I'd love to cheer for OKC with our guys on the squad to beat the heat the next couple years!!! DeMar and Amir deserve it as well. That would give OKC one heck of a team as well!

[SkywalkerAC]

In light of the recent report of Lamb being dangled for bench help:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=p4rvkjm

DeMar
Lowry (offset with KMart's TPE)
Amir

FOR

Perkins
Jackson
Lamb
PJ3

Who says no?

Not sure OKC wants to part with all 3 of their young prospects...but sure.

[Spacing]

In light of the recent report of Lamb being dangled for bench help:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=p4rvkjm

DeMar
Lowry (offset with KMart's TPE)
Amir

FOR

Perkins
Jackson
Lamb
PJ3

Who says no?

Can you use a TPE to off-set salary? I thought TPE's can't be combined with another player so essentially it is a straight trade of "Value of TPE" for "same value of salary"

[jvuc]

Questions:
1. Patterson and Novak are similar 3 PT Shooters. Both won't return much, but who is the better trade bait?
2. Who is the more valuable players Chuck or Psycho T?
3. With Gay dealt, anyone disagree that Fields is now the most difficult to trade

[TheFreshPrince]

Questions:
1. Patterson and Novak are similar 3 PT Shooters. Both won't return much, but who is the better trade bait?

Patterson. He's younger and on a better contract.

2. Who is the more valuable players Chuck or Psycho T?

Psycho T. Only because his contract is smaller. Chuck Hayes is very useful as well.

3. With Gay dealt, anyone disagree that Fields is now the most difficult to trade

Yes.