Lawrence Frank "Re-assigned"

[Paradise]

Kenny Smith is says Frank is seeking a job elsewhere and this is staged to make Kidd look like an authority figure.

Stephen A Smith said something similar that Frank is not the victim. He said Kidd got rid of him knowing he was trying to backseat coach and take his job.

I wouldn't be surprised honestly.

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[defmut]

If I was Prokhorov, I would make Kidd pay for Frank's buyout.

[VCRJKidd15]

Kidd is probably low key a huge douche or maybe Frank but this is such a terrible situation to have on a terrible season like this.

[therealbig3]

If it's true that Frank was trying to backseat coach and try to replace him...then gee, who could have seen that coming? An actually experienced head coach (regardless of how good/bad he is at the job...he still knows more about coaching than Kidd) thinking he's more capable than the d-bag who doesn't do anything as far as coaching goes. Why hire him in the first place then?

What an ugly situation. Yeah, I take back what I said earlier...I can't really blame Frank in this. Kidd's incompetence is the main problem. We looked like the exact same team against Denver as we did throughout the season, WITH Frank. So he wasn't the issue.

[TheProkorov]

I was never overly impressed with Opie, at times I really hated him, but that has nothing to do with the situation at hand really.

This is a disaster, both in a basketball sense, in the locker room and PR.

What a sh*t show.

Kidd is a complete clown shoe as predicted as well.

Yup, regarldess of what Frank did or didnt do, I dont think you can really blame him for our struggles. I mean are we really losing games because of our defensive scheme? It is clearly more injury/chemistry/effort then it is X's and O's. How about Kidd motivating the team to play harder on that end? There are just too many excuses and this screams of kidd wanting to excuse the start and pin it on someone else.

What kind of judgement, decision making and intelligence, let alone people skills did they really expect out of this mush mouth idiot who gets in an absurdly bad DUI wreck at almost 40 years of age, as an uber rich celebrity who can easily afford car service and the such on top of; a guy who beat his wife in front of his little kids, etc., etc.?

TheProkorov agrees with you again. This was about PR. No GM in his right mind is going to hire someone who doesnt hold themself accountable to coach a team full of guys that dont hold themselves accountable.

[Paradise]

So, Kidd in an interview on NBA TV admits that Frank and Kidd did clash and Frank was trying to take over everything and Kidd wants to implement his plans.

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[Keith Van Horn]

How did I not know about the fake Lawrence frank blog!?! Hilarious stuff!


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[brackdan70]

http://lawrencefrank.blogspot.com/


sorry if these have been posted already.

just Hilarious..

[Keith Van Horn]

http://lawrencefrank.blogspot.com/


sorry if these have been posted already.

just Hilarious..

yup this is it.... this should be stickied under its own thread lol.

[Paradise]

The Nets gave up 11 3-pointers, but held the Boston Celtics to 43.8 percent shooting in their 104-96 victory at Barclays Center.

The Nets came into the game ranked second-to-last in defensive efficiency, giving up 107 points per 100 possessions. It was their fourth game since defensive coordinator/lead assistant Lawrence Frank was "reassigned" to doing "daily reports."

Nets coach Jason Kidd has been implementing new concepts ever since. One of the main changes to the defense, according to point guard Deron Williams, is that the bigs are moving up on pick-and-rolls, something Frank and Kidd disagreed on, sources told ESPNNewYork.com.

"Defensively, we have these new principles that Jason Kidd has put in, and we are starting to get them down slowly but surely," power forward Kevin Garnett said. "They are very simplified terms and rotations and schemes, and we are working on them. We have the time to work on them and it has been very consistent working on them. We were able to carry it over today."

Remember this: The Nets gave up 50% shooting in mid-range shooting in preseason and 2 weeks into the season. Frank's idea was to allow mid-range long twos but take away threes and PITP. Then, the coverage changed to pack the paint and force teams to shoot threes. Now, we are on pace to finish historically bad in three point defense.

It's early but it's safe to say Frank failed at his own job on defense. The last two games (which isn't saying much) we've held teams to under 45% shooting and under 40 points PITP for the first time this year.

Kidd handled it wrong but it's clear he had every right to disagree with Frank.

[therealbig3]

IDK about that...Frank's idea is the best defensive philosophy, there's no denying that, that's what Popovich does in SA...long 2s are the most inefficient shot in the game.

We got burned from downtown against the Celtics, and something that's confusing me: why are we acting like we had a good defensive performance against the Celtics? LOL, they lit us up. Check the BBR box score...they had a 111+ ORating (which only further lowered our already league-worst defense). We won because we had an explosive offense in that game, because D-Will and Brook beasted, and we actually got contributions from guys like KG and Anderson.

I'm not sold on these new defensive concepts...they haven't worked so far, and it just sounds like an old school philosophy in a new school NBA, and that doesn't sound like it would work in the long run either. Conceding 3s over midrange shots is dumb.

[therealbig3]

I mean, I just looked it up...we are by far the worst team in the league at defending the 3pt line. Opponents are shooting 41.7% against us from 3! That's insanely bad.

We weren't doing well during the last few games Frank was there either, but if it's true that Frank became passive and deferred to Kidd's ideas as early as after the Orlando game...then a game like the Rockets game, when Frank was still technically with the team, that's on Kidd.

Especially coming from last year's Knicks, whose entire offense was based on hitting a ton of 3s, I don't understand Kidd's strategy here in terms of conceding 3s.

It's just common sense...I would rather give up a 2 than a 3. Limiting the points in the paint is good, but maybe the points in the paint are being limited because opponents are just making a bunch of 3s instead? Like I said, this has been Pop's defensive gameplan since forever: concede the long 2, but not the 3 or points in the paint.

[Paradise]

IDK about that...Frank's idea is the best defensive philosophy, there's no denying that, that's what Popovich does in SA...long 2s are the most inefficient shot in the game.

We got burned from downtown against the Celtics, and something that's confusing me: why are we acting like we had a good defensive performance against the Celtics? LOL, they lit us up. Check the BBR box score...they had a 111+ ORating (which only further lowered our already league-worst defense). We won because we had an explosive offense in that game, because D-Will and Brook beasted, and we actually got contributions from guys like KG and Anderson.

I'm not sold on these new defensive concepts...they haven't worked so far, and it just sounds like an old school philosophy in a new school NBA, and that doesn't sound like it would work in the long run either. Conceding 3s over midrange shots is dumb.

Yeah but there still has to be a big contesting the long two on the high screen. Which is what Frank doesn't want and which is how we've made average PGs look like Westbrook. Kidd wants bigs to contest the shot after you forced the guard into the shot.

The only reason why it looks like a good defensive effort is because you forced Boston into low percentage threes. Which I'd live with. Nothing was easy. Sullinger made two contested threes and he's a 30% 3pt shooter.

It probably means nothing but rotations seem sharper now than before. It actually looks like they know what they're doing out there.

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[NyCeEvO]

I'm not judging Kidd's defensive schemes until we play another few games.

The players are learning on the fly. Even KG noted that it would be tough to implement what Kidd wants because they have very few days of practice at this point in the season and from the way he said it, it seemed like Kidd started doing so just before the game against the Knicks.

I've seen improvement in team defense since that time.

Our team defensive performance tonight should give us an indication as to whether the players are still adjusting to the new scheme.


Also, I don't buy that the main change is that Kidd is willing to concede the 3 while Frank was willing to concede the long 2. In the game against Boston, for the most part, they were making contested 3pt shots and what we were giving up was the mid-range jumper to the ballhandler after the screen is set in PnR.

I believe it was KG who said that Kidd is installing simpler defensive schemes (and that makes sense).

I remember watching those training camp practice films and Frank had pretty complex defensive schemes depending on how each offensive player moves. While it sounds very cool and sophisticated, at the time I did think "Wow, I wonder if the players (especially Brook) will really be able to get this down."

Sure enough, we saw Brook asking a lot of questions about how to play certain coverages.

It's one thing to be a bad defensive team but it's one thing to screw up on defense as badly as we were screwing up. Teams were getting layups routinely and it was so aggravating to see the opposition get easy baskets while we're struggling to generate offense.

Most blowouts happen because of poor defense OR poor offense. We managed to do both at the same time and that's why we were getting blown out in the first quarter and it would affect the rest of the game.

Good teams are able to whether the storm of offensive struggles by playing good defense and having a good offense when the defense struggles. We were incapable of doing either thing.

IMO, I think the defense that Frank had was just too complex for the team as a unit to understand. The way that we were getting beat didn't suggest that we were a step slow to our man or just occassionally missed a defensive assignment.

Instead it looked like the some players didn't know what to do as soon as the opposition made 1 or 2 passes. They were probably thinking back to all of the combinations that Frank had installed and either were indecisive about which defensive rotation to employ or they simply didn't know what to do.

Right now, they at least look like they know what we're doing.

Seeing how many points LAC scores tonight will give an indication as to whether our defense has actually been improving. In the last two games, the Bucks and Celtics averaged 89 points against us.

Prior to that, (with the exception of teams that weren't healthy and didn't have their main offensive weapons like MEM) everyone was scoring 100+ against us. The only exceptions were the Cavs (first game), the Jazz (bad team), Pacers (slow pace, low scoring team but they still scored 96 on us), Suns & Bobcats (bad teams).

There was something woefully wrong with our defense in the beginning of the season. I hope we've seen the worst of it already.

[MrDollarBills]

"They are very simplified terms and rotations and schemes, and we are working on them. We have the time to work on them and it has been very consistent working on them. We were able to carry it over today."

^this kind of speaks volumes. When I watched the training camp footage, watching what Frank was trying to install was confusing as hell. Very complicated and unnecessary. Sometimes simplicity is underrated.

[Prokorov]

The Nets gave up 11 3-pointers, but held the Boston Celtics to 43.8 percent shooting in their 104-96 victory at Barclays Center.

The Nets came into the game ranked second-to-last in defensive efficiency, giving up 107 points per 100 possessions. It was their fourth game since defensive coordinator/lead assistant Lawrence Frank was "reassigned" to doing "daily reports."

Nets coach Jason Kidd has been implementing new concepts ever since. One of the main changes to the defense, according to point guard Deron Williams, is that the bigs are moving up on pick-and-rolls, something Frank and Kidd disagreed on, sources told ESPNNewYork.com.

"Defensively, we have these new principles that Jason Kidd has put in, and we are starting to get them down slowly but surely," power forward Kevin Garnett said. "They are very simplified terms and rotations and schemes, and we are working on them. We have the time to work on them and it has been very consistent working on them. We were able to carry it over today."

Remember this: The Nets gave up 50% shooting in mid-range shooting in preseason and 2 weeks into the season. Frank's idea was to allow mid-range long twos but take away threes and PITP. Then, the coverage changed to pack the paint and force teams to shoot threes. Now, we are on pace to finish historically bad in three point defense.

It's early but it's safe to say Frank failed at his own job on defense. The last two games (which isn't saying much) we've held teams to under 45% shooting and under 40 points PITP for the first time this year.

Kidd handled it wrong but it's clear he had every right to disagree with Frank.

I'm like 50-50 on this. on one hand we have clearly been much better defensively. on the other hand we have still looked awful defending the pick and roll(last night was no exception).

I dont know if its a change in strategy, being healthier, or guys stepping up... but i dont think 'improved pick and roll defense' has much to do with us playing much better defensively the last 3 games or so.

our points are still not getting through screens, go over and get lost on them pretty consistently. and our bigs arent doing a great job trapping, hedging, or playing it themselves, and the help guys just seem scrmabled and lost.

I think its more a personel thing. Dwill, Lopez, and Blatche specifically arent very good in that aspect. i think you have to pick your poison, live with 1 thing burning you or just keep mixing up how you defend it to keep them on their toes. i dont think this is the last we will see if bad defense and bad pick and roll defense specifically

[Prokorov]

"They are very simplified terms and rotations and schemes, and we are working on them. We have the time to work on them and it has been very consistent working on them. We were able to carry it over today."

^this kind of speaks volumes. When I watched the training camp footage, watching what Frank was trying to install was confusing as hell. Very complicated and unnecessary. Sometimes simplicity is underrated.

i didnt think it was all that complicated to be honest. He said we were a lock and trail team. then he showed them the 2 instances when we dont trail and instead shoot the gap. they seemed very clear when those instances where(when the screen is set below the block or when the screen is set in the paint).

also, a handful of these guys have played in that kind of system before(Garnett, Pierce, Anderson, Terry, and Evans for sure)