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OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II

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Post#41 » by Elden Payton » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:12 am

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Sik Infant wrote:Cheers JDR720.

I'm pretty sure this was posted a few months ago but it's always nice to read positive media about our players (which is rare)

yea i felt like i saw it before but i posted it anyway lol


I appreciate you sharing it! :wink:
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Post#42 » by mrknowitall215 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:34 pm

Surprisingly productive defenders by Henry Abbott
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Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

It's a closely guarded secret that the Bobcats are good at something, but today their defense is fourth best in the league, just after the Bulls and just ahead of the Heat and Thunder. But line up the NBA's best defensive player combinations in terms of points allowed per possession, and Kidd-Gilchrist's long and noticeable name is all over the place. There are three four-man Bobcats lineups with MKG that play better defense than the best four-man combination of Indiana Pacers. If you rank the whole league's best two-man defensive combinations, the top five pairs are all Pacers -- except for Kidd-Gilchrist and Gerald Henderson, who are third in the whole NBA in that ranking.

Kidd-Gilchrist, who is out with a broken finger at the moment, has played nearly 500 minutes this season, during which time the Bobcats have basically been the Pacers, with a 94.8 points per 100 possessions. When he's on the bench, they give up more than 100.

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Post#43 » by HornetJail » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:36 pm

Imagine if we actually had more than three good defensive players :o
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#44 » by fatlever » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:42 pm

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Surprisingly productive defenders by Henry Abbott
ESPN.com

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

It's a closely guarded secret that the Bobcats are good at something, but today their defense is fourth best in the league, just after the Bulls and just ahead of the Heat and Thunder. But line up the NBA's best defensive player combinations in terms of points allowed per possession, and Kidd-Gilchrist's long and noticeable name is all over the place. There are three four-man Bobcats lineups with MKG that play better defense than the best four-man combination of Indiana Pacers. If you rank the whole league's best two-man defensive combinations, the top five pairs are all Pacers -- except for Kidd-Gilchrist and Gerald Henderson, who are third in the whole NBA in that ranking.

Kidd-Gilchrist, who is out with a broken finger at the moment, has played nearly 500 minutes this season, during which time the Bobcats have basically been the Pacers, with a 94.8 points per 100 possessions. When he's on the bench, they give up more than 100.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... -defenders


great to see his defense getting recognized. more articles like this and refs wont be so quick to call fouls on him. the stats are finally backing up what our eyeballs have been seeing. MKGs on/off stats have been absurd sine day one, yet goes unnoticed by those who still talk about him as a bust.
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Post#45 » by thruthefire » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:42 pm

Biz Gilwalker wrote:Imagine if we actually had more than three good defensive players :o


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Post#46 » by HornetJail » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:52 pm

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Biz Gilwalker wrote:Imagine if we actually had more than three good defensive players :o


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Oops, meant to say healthy. When MKG and Biz are healthy it's 5.

Kemba, Hendo, and McBob are the good ones. Taylor is very average (and this season, below average) and Al has been average defensively this year. Everyone else is pretty bad defensively. Adrien hasn't exactly impressed me defensively, it's just his board work.
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Post#47 » by JDR720 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:00 pm

McBob isn't a good defender, he got beat up by Tristan Thompson a few times
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Post#48 » by mrknowitall215 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:09 pm

JDR720 wrote:McBob isn't a good defender, he got beat up by Tristan Thompson a few times


I concur. Josh McRoberts is a average/serviceable defender, but I wouldn't label him a "good" one

I would consider Jeff Adrien a good defender before McRoberts. They are both solid though, and far from turnstiles

I would go out on the limb & say that MKG is the best perimeter defender in the league outside of maybe LeBron James. I know most would put him behind Paul George, Luol Deng, Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, & etc., but not me. I know it's a wild assumption this early, but I have that much faith in his abilities from what I've seen
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Post#49 » by HornetJail » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:15 pm

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JDR720 wrote:McBob isn't a good defender, he got beat up by Tristan Thompson a few times


I concur. Josh McRoberts is a average/serviceable defender, but I wouldn't label him a "good" one

I would consider Jeff Adrien a good defender before McRoberts. They are both solid though, and far from turnstiles

I would go out on the limb & say that MKG is the best perimeter defender in the league outside of maybe LeBron James. I know most would put him behind Paul George, Luol Deng, Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, & etc., but not me. I know it's a wild assumption this early, but I have that much faith in his abilities from what I've seen

Yeah, that's way out there. I think he has the potential to be that good, but he's not there yet. Right now, I'd consider him an extremely good, but sub-elite defender to this point.
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Post#50 » by fatlever » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:40 pm

only thing holding MKG back right now is foul trouble, other than that, he's right there behind lebron and PG, same tier as deng and others.

as for mcbob, he does all the right things defensively, but just lacks the length and athleticism to defend the rim. his biggest negative is rebounding, but considering we are top of the league in d-boards with him playing 30 minutes, its not an issue.
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Post#51 » by ball teacher » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:34 am

Interesting article from bleacher report that mentions MKG being stuck in a bad situation

I'm not giving up on Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, who got drafted into what I thought was one of the worst positions possible.

Kidd-Gilchrist would have benefited greatly from being taken by a team with talent and veterans, much like Kawhi Leonard did when he was traded to the Spurs on draft night.

He just doesn't see many quality scoring opportunities in this current lineup, and at this point, he's not exactly proficient in terms of creating his own.

On a team with better passers, playmakers and more credible scorers, the transition process for M.K.G. will probably move a whole lot faster.

He turned 20 years old a few months ago, so need to panic just yet. But he's more likely to succeed in a different setting.


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Post#52 » by catch20two » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:16 am

That article is null. First of all it's from Bleacher Report and second of all because he's been fine. He's an important part of what we're doing. The media just don't hype him for averaging the same thing he would've averaged on a contender for us because we're the Bobcats.
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Post#53 » by HornetJail » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:20 am

ball teacher wrote:Kidd-Gilchrist would have benefited greatly from being taken by a team with talent and veterans, much like Kawhi Leonard did when he was traded to the Spurs on draft night.

That is such a terrible statement because a player of that caliber gets drafted high and teams that draft high typically suck and they suck because they don't have talent and veterans like Tim Duncan and Tony Parker. Hell if I was a consistent three point shooter who could defend a little the Spurs could make me a decent player. :roll: Any half decent 3&D guy looks like a stud on that team (see: Danny Green)
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Post#54 » by Marvel » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:00 am

Why does MKG's shot chart look so much better than Jeff Taylor's? If MKG can't shoot, then what does that make JT? MKG needs to be more involved in the offense.
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Post#55 » by catch20two » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:33 pm

Marvel wrote:Why does MKG's shot chart look so much better than Jeff Taylor's? If MKG can't shoot, then what does that make JT? MKG needs to be more involved in the offense.

I've been saying it for a while. MKG just need to shoot. Clifford need to tell him to be aggressive instead of just playing within himself because we need for him to breakout.
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Post#56 » by lmcguir5 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:59 pm

Why would Clifford tell him to be more aggressive? All he is concerned with his keeping his damn rotations on track. I swear MKG could solve world hunger in the first 6 minutes of the game and Clifford would still bring him out. Clifford is really starting to grind my gears, and I hate to say it, but if they fired him I wouldnt even be disappointed
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Post#57 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:35 pm

lmcguir5 wrote:Why would Clifford tell him to be more aggressive? All he is concerned with his keeping his damn rotations on track. I swear MKG could solve world hunger in the first 6 minutes of the game and Clifford would still bring him out. Clifford is really starting to grind my gears, and I hate to say it, but if they fired him I wouldnt even be disappointed


Hold your horses. Clifford is a rookie head coach that's still getting acclimated. The worst thing about how Clifford is managing MKG's minutes is that he's doing so by splitting his time with Jeff Taylor, who is far less effective in-game. Clifford basically has "solved world hunger" by turning this Bobcats defense around from historically one of the worst ever into a top 5 defensive unit. Sooner than later, Clifford will realize MKG's importance & Taylor's ineffectiveness, and by the looks of it I think he already has
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Post#58 » by lmcguir5 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:40 pm

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lmcguir5 wrote:Why would Clifford tell him to be more aggressive? All he is concerned with his keeping his damn rotations on track. I swear MKG could solve world hunger in the first 6 minutes of the game and Clifford would still bring him out. Clifford is really starting to grind my gears, and I hate to say it, but if they fired him I wouldnt even be disappointed


Hold your horses. Clifford is a rookie head coach that's still getting acclimated. The worst thing about how Clifford is managing MKG's minutes is that he's doing so by splitting his time with Jeff Taylor, who is far less effective in-game. Clifford basically has "solved world hunger" by turning this Bobcats defense around from historically one of the worst ever into a top 5 defensive unit. Sooner than later, Clifford will realize MKG's importance & Taylor's ineffectiveness, and by the looks of it I think he already has


Let's hope for the welfare of our team that this is true. I don't even think JT would be that bad of a player in a diminished role. Coming off the bench to provide 10-15 mins per game wouldn't be bad but right now we're forced to play him about 30 and thats egregious. The defense is better I get that, but all of this nonsense is strting to rub me the wrong way. Especially after last night when Zeller played exceptionally and then got pulled in favor of Adrien
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Post#59 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:05 pm

Clifford's done a fantastic job overall.
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Post#60 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:03 pm

New Bobcat's advice Michael Kidd-Gilchrist: ‘Man up’

Charlotte Bobcats forward Michael Kidd-Gilchrist invited an old friend to his home Tuesday for dinner and a chat. The friend – a mentor, really – offered lots of advice, which Kidd-Gilchrist summed up this way:

“He told me to ‘man up,’” Kidd-Gilchrist recalled.

The old friend is also a new teammate – Chris Douglas-Roberts. The Bobcats signed small forward Douglas-Roberts out of the NBA Development League as an injury fill-in, in part because of Kidd-Gilchrist’s broken left hand. Kidd-Gilchrist couldn’t be happier about the selection.

“It’s so good to have him here, a dream-come-true for me and him to be on the same team,” Kidd-Gilchrist said Thursday. “I never would have thought that in a million years. He’s my favorite player.”

So much so that Kidd-Gilchrist started wearing jersey No. 14 because that’s the number Douglas-Roberts wore in college as a Memphis Tiger. Kidd-Gilchrist ended up playing for Douglas-Roberts’ college coach, John Calipari, after Calipari moved from Memphis to Kentucky.

Kidd-Gilchrist grew up loving the way Douglas-Roberts played, but this is about more than that. It’s about a big-deal-college-player-turned-pro finding time for a teenager. Kidd-Gilchrist was in middle school in New Jersey when one of his uncles introduced him to Douglas-Roberts.

Their friendship blossomed to thepoint that Kidd-Gilchrist would sometimes hang out at Douglas-Roberts’ home after school, when Douglas-Roberts was a New Jersey Net.

“Really, he was like my brother,” Kidd-Gilchrist said.

Douglas-Roberts said the things that struck him about Kidd-Gilchrist, even in the eighth grade, were how hard he worked and how receptive he was to feedback.

“He’s always been a student of the game since he was a little kid,” Douglas-Roberts said. “(But) one thing you can’t prepare for is the business of this. I tell him, ‘You’re a basketball player – a good basketball player. Just have a thicker skin.’”

Douglas-Roberts says growing up in inner-city Detroit made him mentally tough. He’s needed to be, because the NBA didn’t come nearly as easily to him as some expected.

A top recruit out of high school, Douglas-Roberts lasted to the 40th pick when the Nets chose him in 2008. He played two seasons in New Jersey, then parts of two seasons with the Milwaukee Bucks and Dallas Mavericks. In-between those gigs, he played in Italy.

Lately he’s played in the D-League, averaging 18.7 points for the Texas Legends. The D-League is very different from the charter flights and five-star hotels in the NBA. Sometimes he was on buses, riding from town to town on a game day, so the team could avoid a hotel bill.

Douglas-Roberts was fine with that because he wanted one more chance, the one the Bobcats offered Tuesday.

“Nothing bothers me,” Douglas-Roberts said. “I’m just here to play basketball.”

That’s the message he delivered Tuesday night to Kidd-Gilchrist, the protégé he calls “little cousin.”

“I told him you have to embrace all the pressure (of being the No. 2 overall pick). Never shy away from it,” Douglas-Roberts said. “You want people criticizing you. You want the media talking about you, positively or negatively.”

Message received:

“I have no excuses these days,” Kidd-Gilchrist said. “He told me adversity makes men. All these up-and-downs, they aren’t really ups-and-downs. They’re just how I think of it.”

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/1 ... qpAFtJDuSo


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