Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread

Nutty Nats Fan · Post #3401 » by **Nutty Nats Fan** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:47 pm

asham27 wrote:I wouldn't even trade Ibaka for Anthony at this point

Only NY wouldn't do that trade. :lol:

Mike Breen · Post #3402 » by **Mike Breen** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:02 pm

Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
asham27 wrote:I wouldn't even trade Ibaka for Anthony at this point

Only NY wouldn't do that trade.

Neither team benefits from that trade. The Knicks literally have only have one play. They must trade Melo for first rounders and fillers.

There is no other scenario where the Knicks have any semblance of a future.

SuperflyKnick · Post #3403 » by **SuperflyKnick** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:26 pm

NY is not trading Carmelo anytime soon !!! I mean do you guys forget who the owner is sometimes ...He doesnt give a crap what fans think..Lets just hope we roll into some luck and get another star to pair with anthony soon

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #3404 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:26 pm

I think Shump for Lowry is going down. Toronto wants to trade Lowry so it can tank, and nobody needs Lowry more than we do, so I can see us making the best offer.

Could be expanded to have Amare go to Toronto with us taking back some bad contracts (e.g. Fields and Novak). In that event though we need to demand Amir Johnson. But given Dolan's track record with Masai, we'll probably have to settle for Hansbrough while coughing up an unprotected future 1st in the process.

Nyk4lyfe · Post #3405 » by **Nyk4lyfe** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:17 pm

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:I think Shump for Lowry is going down. Toronto wants to trade Lowry so it can tank, and nobody needs Lowry more than we do, so I can see us making the best offer.

Could be expanded to have Amare go to Toronto with us taking back some bad contracts (e.g. Fields and Novak). In that event though we need to demand Amir Johnson. But given Dolan's track record with Masai, we'll probably have to settle for Hansbrough while coughing up an unprotected future 1st in the process.

Not sure if I want any contracts past 2015 tho

asham27 · Post #3406 » by **asham27** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:28 pm

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:I think Shump for Lowry is going down. Toronto wants to trade Lowry so it can tank, and nobody needs Lowry more than we do, so I can see us making the best offer.

Could be expanded to have Amare go to Toronto with us taking back some bad contracts (e.g. Fields and Novak). In that event though we need to demand Amir Johnson. But given Dolan's track record with Masai, we'll probably have to settle for Hansbrough while coughing up an unprotected future 1st in the process.

lol, no one's touching Amare's contract. Fields and Novak contracts look like steals compared to Amare.

I mean the reason they got rid of Gay was so they didn't have $20 million on their books, their not going to take on another $20 million especially from a team that has almost no draft picks to trade.

SuperflyKnick · Post #3407 » by **SuperflyKnick** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:39 pm

asham27 wrote:
ORANGEandBLUE wrote:I think Shump for Lowry is going down. Toronto wants to trade Lowry so it can tank, and nobody needs Lowry more than we do, so I can see us making the best offer.

Could be expanded to have Amare go to Toronto with us taking back some bad contracts (e.g. Fields and Novak). In that event though we need to demand Amir Johnson. But given Dolan's track record with Masai, we'll probably have to settle for Hansbrough while coughing up an unprotected future 1st in the process.

lol, no one's touching Amare's contract. Fields and Novak contracts look like steals compared to Amare.

I mean the reason they got rid of Gay was so they didn't have $20 million on their books, their not going to take on another $20 million especially from a team that has almost no draft picks to trade.

LOLZ no one in there right mind wud trade for Fields and Novak with the contracts they have... At least amare can make a impact and is off the books in another year... Its funny how this time next year almost every team in the NBA will be on the phone trying to get Amare from the knicks...

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #3408 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:41 pm

SuperflyKnick wrote:

LOLZ no one in there right mind wud trade for Fields and Novak with the contracts they have... At least amare can make a impact and is off the books in another year... Its funny how this time next year almost every team in the NBA will be on the phone trying to get Amare from the knicks...

Yeah and Gay was a year longer than Amare too. Maybe a third team would take Amare? If they get rid of longer contracts, and can possibly get some production out of Amare, why not?

SuperflyKnick · Post #3409 » by **SuperflyKnick** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:43 pm

NY- Randolf
MEM- Jr smith, Andrea Bargnani

Mem- Are looking for a stretch 4 who could play along Gasol, and Jr who could provide them with scoring off the bench, Ed davis is deemed PF of the future so Zach mite be packing soon

NY- While not the ideal fit but wud be welcomed as a 2nd scorer and rebounder with Melo

SuperflyKnick · Post #3410 » by **SuperflyKnick** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:44 pm

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:
SuperflyKnick wrote:

LOLZ no one in there right mind wud trade for Fields and Novak with the contracts they have... At least amare can make a impact and is off the books in another year... Its funny how this time next year almost every team in the NBA will be on the phone trying to get Amare from the knicks...

Yeah and Gay was a year longer than Amare too. Maybe a third team would take Amare? If they get rid of longer contracts, and can possibly get some production out of Amare, why not?

We got rid of Novak because his contract extends a yr after Amare, and as sad as it seems a broken down Amare is still better then i got blocked by the rim Fields

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #3411 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:47 pm

How about this one: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kzzvs7q

Bos gets: Stat
Toronto gets: Shump, Humphries, NY protected 2018 1st
NY gets: Lowry, Amir Johnson, Fields, Gerald Wallace

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #3412 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:51 pm

Crunch-time line-up of:

Lowry
Jr or Felton, depending on who's hot
Melo
Johnson
Tyson

Not bad. First time in forever that more than half of our line-up would consist of 2-way players.

asham27 · Post #3413 » by **asham27** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:55 pm

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:
SuperflyKnick wrote:

LOLZ no one in there right mind wud trade for Fields and Novak with the contracts they have... At least amare can make a impact and is off the books in another year... Its funny how this time next year almost every team in the NBA will be on the phone trying to get Amare from the knicks...

Yeah and Gay was a year longer than Amare too. Maybe a third team would take Amare? If they get rid of longer contracts, and can possibly get some production out of Amare, why not?

No he doesn't. Gay has a player option for next year which he will surely exercise similar to Amare.

And Fields contract expires the same year as Amare's does. I'd rather keep him and pay $3 million for another year of Novak then take back a washed up and overpaid Amare.

asham27 · Post #3414 » by **asham27** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:56 pm

SuperflyKnick wrote:
asham27 wrote:
ORANGEandBLUE wrote:I think Shump for Lowry is going down. Toronto wants to trade Lowry so it can tank, and nobody needs Lowry more than we do, so I can see us making the best offer.

Could be expanded to have Amare go to Toronto with us taking back some bad contracts (e.g. Fields and Novak). In that event though we need to demand Amir Johnson. But given Dolan's track record with Masai, we'll probably have to settle for Hansbrough while coughing up an unprotected future 1st in the process.

lol, no one's touching Amare's contract. Fields and Novak contracts look like steals compared to Amare.

I mean the reason they got rid of Gay was so they didn't have $20 million on their books, their not going to take on another $20 million especially from a team that has almost no draft picks to trade.

LOLZ no one in there right mind wud trade for Fields and Novak with the contracts they have... At least amare can make a impact and is off the books in another year... Its funny how this time next year almost every team in the NBA will be on the phone trying to get Amare from the knicks...

Yes, I'm sure you'll find someone to pay him $20 million for this year and next while he averages 7 points a game. :lol:

Is that what making an impact means these days?

Johnny Hoops · Post #3415 » by **Johnny Hoops** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:01 pm

This one works in trade checker.....

Bargs, Shump & Felton to Orlando for Afflalo & J. Nelson.

We add about +$4M in 2015 with Afflalo's deal.

Starting line-ups....

Orl
Vujecek
Bargs
Harris
Shump
Oladipo

Knicks

Chandler
Stat
Melo
Afflalo
Nelson

SuperflyKnick · Post #3416 » by **SuperflyKnick** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:02 pm

asham27 wrote:
SuperflyKnick wrote:
asham27 wrote:
lol, no one's touching Amare's contract. Fields and Novak contracts look like steals compared to Amare.

I mean the reason they got rid of Gay was so they didn't have $20 million on their books, their not going to take on another $20 million especially from a team that has almost no draft picks to trade.

LOLZ no one in there right mind wud trade for Fields and Novak with the contracts they have... At least amare can make a impact and is off the books in another year... Its funny how this time next year almost every team in the NBA will be on the phone trying to get Amare from the knicks...

Yes, I'm sure you'll find someone to pay him $20 million for this year and next while he averages 7 points a game.

Is that what making an impact means these days?

Who said anything about trading him Tinker bell.... I said a year from now he will be 1 of the most sought of Contracts in the NBA... Why take on Novak and his extra yr when that extra money can help land a max FA in 2015

SuperflyKnick · Post #3417 » by **SuperflyKnick** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:04 pm

Johnny Hoops wrote:This one works in trade checker.....

Bargs, Shump & Felton to Orlando for Afflalo & J. Nelson.

We add about +$4M in 2015 with Afflalo's deal.

Starting line-ups....

Orl
Vujecek
Bargs
Harris
Shump
Oladipo

Knicks

Chandler
Stat
Melo
Afflalo
Nelson

A chance to get rid of Bargnani and Felton and get back a decent PG and A SG having a career yr ? Sign me up but its prob a no go from orlando

TGW · Post #3418 » by **TGW** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:19 pm

Johnny Hoops wrote:This one works in trade checker.....

Bargs, Shump & Felton to Orlando for Afflalo & J. Nelson.

We add about +$4M in 2015 with Afflalo's deal.

Starting line-ups....

Orl
Vujecek
Bargs
Harris
Shump
Oladipo

Knicks

Chandler
Stat
Melo
Afflalo
Nelson

Orlando would never do that.

onetwothree · Post #3419 » by **onetwothree** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:50 pm

You guys are going to end up giving Felton + 2 out of 3 (Shump, THJ, 2018 1st rounder)

LOL...

And then give it some time and you will see that felton and lowry both fat pg's are putting up the same #'s except your fat guy is 2 years older than our fat guy. Then your GM (hopefully) will realize that all you really did in this trade is give us the 2 out of 3 and nothing more...

pickaxe · Post #3420 » by **pickaxe** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:12 am

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6378184

Just shooting the breeze. Nuggs are off three days in a row, so tell me what you think of this trade. We'd have to wait until Jan. 15th, and see how every player is doing etc. but here it is.

Evan's got great passing skills, can score easily, and might be more fresh and suited to what you need right now than J.R. -while, we could use JR's shooting assuming we can do a better job coaching him.....then also you would get Andre who can def. keep things together better than Felton. Andre won't be as fast as Felton, but he's gonna hit the open man with much more precision.