Raps trying to trade us Lowry...

JBreezeNY · Post #181 » by **JBreezeNY** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:00 pm

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Fat · Post #182 » by **Fat** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:00 pm

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Tough situation for Knicks: With no first-round pick to add, NYK could be confronted w/unsavory option of putting Tim Hardaway Jr. in deal

lol andre miller please

Mr_Perfect · Post #183 » by **Mr_Perfect** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:00 pm

Boik14 wrote:Felton and MWP as Stein mentioned or JR for Lowry. Those are fine. Hold the young assets like THjr, Shump and 1sts. We're going to need those.

Also I dont understand why some act like Ujiri is Jerry West. Hes an ok Gm but he also gave out the Fields contracts and traded Bargs (who although not an all star is still decent) for Novak (who disappeared in the playoffs) and Camby (who is cap filler material). Hes made his share of bad moves.

Ujiri was just hired. He didn't sign Fields.

And Bargnani was traded for a 1st round pick, which is more valuable than Bargnani will ever be.

Jay10 · Post #184 » by **Jay10** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:00 pm

who the hell asks for a first round pick for an expiring contract?

Greenie · Post #185 » by **Greenie** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:00 pm

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:
god shammgod wrote:it's either a pick or shump. felton doesn't do anything for them. we're out of picks. it's shump.

He's expiring and the need for PGs around the league is very low. He's not a playmaker -- just a good 3-ball and defender.

You are bidding against yourself to give up a young asset. He's just going to leave Toronto -- they can't get a 1st-rounder for him elsewhere. Why do it?

Because you need to pay a premium to get rid of the three years remaining on Felton's deal.

Felton is not overpaid...

Post #186 » by **K_ick_God** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:00 pm

Some of you guys are underrating Lowry some. He's better than Felton by a lot. This is the 2nd horrible season Felton has had in the last 3 years. Felton was never that good and now he's sliding.

SuperflyKnick · Post #187 » by **SuperflyKnick** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:01 pm

Everyone who wants Jr smith gone including myself ........he cant be traded till jan 15.... ouchhh

[GR] · Post #188 » by **[GR]** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:01 pm

omerome wrote:Which brings me to my original question, why are the Warriors interested?

Because they want a backup, and need one with Douglas injured

knicksfan974 · Post #189 » by **knicksfan974** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:01 pm

Heat_Fan_87 wrote:you know ujiri is going to make you guys take back fields...

No way in hell.

Fury · Post #190 » by **Fury** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:01 pm

knicks85 wrote:
Fury wrote:
Mr_Perfect wrote:
If that's what you think then you haven't really watched Lowry.

This is a Kyle Lowry article published before the beginning of last year. I don't think he's changed much:

Kyle Lowry is going to improve the Toronto Raptors. A lot, I think. Lowry is a really, really good player. He's effectively the best point guard cover in the game -- no other point guard gets the defensive results that Lowry does, not even Rondo or Paul (both excellent defenders, but both lay off from time to time and take games off when they're feeling under the weather). Here's a comprehensive list of the point guards that have dropped 30 points with Lowry as their primary defender for > 15 minutes in the last three years.

John Wall (38 points, 59% shooting) on January 16th, 2012.
Russell Westbrook (33 points, 56% shooting) on November 6th, 2009. (Lowry only played 19 minutes.)
Tony Parker (31 points, 65% shooting) on April 1st, 2011.
Derrick Rose (30 points, 46% shooting) on December 4th, 2010.

http://gothicginobili.com/?p=4172

That writing makes Bleacher report reeads Shakespearian...

It's a blog. And he's a statistician.

Post #191 » by **K_ick_God** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:01 pm

Jay10 wrote:who the hell asks for a first round pick for an expiring contract?

Anyone on the phone with the Knicks.

Fat Kat · Post #192 » by **Fat Kat** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:01 pm

Wouldn't trade Shump for him and definatly wouldn't trade a pick. They can have Felton or Beno and fillers (Chris Smith and Aldrich). No picks. Free Murry. That is all.

postcall · Post #193 » by **postcall** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:02 pm

My prediction
Knicks get Lowry + trash(we will also keepm Felton)

Knicks out
Shump, THJR, Pablo, 2018 1st, 2019 2nd, 2020 1st

Seriously this guy has made his career raping the Knicks and he just keeps going back to this well. Dont trade with him seriously dont trade with this guy.
Also since we traded away our entire future Lowry is going to have all the leverage contract time and will seek and get 10+ a year from the Knicks crushing the cap.

Buggin Out · Post #194 » by **Buggin Out** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:02 pm

VinBaker6 wrote:
Buggin Out wrote:How good is Lowry's defense?

Gambles a lot but solid. Not as good as his Houston days, but good nonetheless.

I'm honestly not trolling, but how the hell does NY pick up a call from Masai after he's destroyed the Knicks time and time again?

All the trades may have been over the top, but they have helped us out.
Melo is still our super-star
Bargs is decent, 2016 pick was too much

Haven't been destroyed that much

ezmoney707 · Post #195 » by **ezmoney707** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:02 pm

Fury wrote:
Mr_Perfect wrote:
shmeakone wrote:Lowry's tougher & a better defender. Plus he's better in pretty much everything else.

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If that's what you think then you haven't really watched Lowry.

This is a Kyle Lowry article published before the beginning of last year. I don't think he's changed much:

Kyle Lowry is going to improve the Toronto Raptors. A lot, I think. Lowry is a really, really good player. He's effectively the best point guard cover in the game -- no other point guard gets the defensive results that Lowry does, not even Rondo or Paul (both excellent defenders, but both lay off from time to time and take games off when they're feeling under the weather). Here's a comprehensive list of the point guards that have dropped 30 points with Lowry as their primary defender for > 15 minutes in the last three years.

John Wall (38 points, 59% shooting) on January 16th, 2012.
Russell Westbrook (33 points, 56% shooting) on November 6th, 2009. (Lowry only played 19 minutes.)
Tony Parker (31 points, 65% shooting) on April 1st, 2011.
Derrick Rose (30 points, 46% shooting) on December 4th, 2010.

http://gothicginobili.com/?p=4172

Huh?

Greenie · Post #196 » by **Greenie** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:02 pm

knicksfan87 wrote:i would seriously be pissed if the knicks give up another 1st rounder just to be treading water with lowry. he isnt the pg you make him out to be. he is better than felton, yes. but he is not worth giving up shump or a 1st with felton. trust me

by the end of the year people will want him traded...

SuperflyKnick · Post #197 » by **SuperflyKnick** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:02 pm

[GR] wrote:
omerome wrote:Which brings me to my original question, why are the Warriors interested?

Because they want a backup, and need one with Douglas injured

Yeah they need a backup PG, Lowry wont be to happy playing backup to Curry for 15 mins a night

shmeakone · Post #198 » by **shmeakone** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:03 pm

If Hardaway is traded, I'd have a real tough time being a Knicks fan..

VinBaker6 · Post #199 » by **VinBaker6** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:03 pm

Can you guys take back Fields?

Post #200 » by **Brooklyn_Yards** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:03 pm

If Masai really wants to dump him it'll probably be Felton, Shump and Metter.