Raps trying to trade us Lowry...

don't panac · Post #501 » by **don't panac** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:53 pm

Felton and JR for Lowry.

Jay10 · Post #502 » by **Jay10** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:53 pm

Shumpert fans, exhale: I'm told chances of him going to TOR in a Lowry deal are slim. Raps not high on him. Knicks prefer to keep (for now).

- howard beck

Greenie · Post #503 » by **Greenie** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:53 pm

Jay10 wrote:
greenhughes wrote:
Jay10 wrote:
i would rather deal with his expiring contract, than felton's contract for 2 more years

So who's our PG next year? I bet you we re-sign him. Then we will be stuck with Raymond Jr longer than we would have been stuck with Raymond Sr...

the knicks could tank then being that they would own their pick.

OK but who will be our PG for the 2014 - 2015 season? Now you know Kyle will not take a one year deal...

JustaKnickFan · Post #504 » by **JustaKnickFan** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:54 pm

GoodAzzGame_NYK wrote:
JustaKnickFan wrote:There are so many things that are bad about trading Shumpert for Lowry
Pros:
-Marginal PG upgrade (upgrade at the things the Knicks are already good at like 3pt shooting and PG scoring)
Cons:
-Lose valuable trade asset
-trading a player when his value is at his lowest
-Lowry is an expiring contract, he probably isn't staying
-Lowry isn't the difference between playoffs, not worth trading for

I can go on and on, but it's stupid trades like the one being proposed that can kill a franchise.

When you look at all the stuff this team does badly, it's the stuff that isn't as bad that stands out.

damedash09 · Post #505 » by **damedash09** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:54 pm

sol537 wrote:
damedash09 wrote:Whats it take to get andre miller

Denver wouldn't want to help up because of their pick placement.

f**ck i forgot that

spree2kawhi · Post #506 » by **spree2kawhi** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:54 pm

Seeing the Indiana Pacers succeed, people should realize the value of identity. That being said, I repeat: I want to have Lowry, K-Mart, Artest, Chandler AND Shumpert on this team. Hell, give them whatever and also bring in Amir Johnson. But don't touch Shumpert. Come on!

Fury · Post #507 » by **Fury** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:54 pm

Mr_Perfect wrote:
Fury wrote:
Mr_Perfect wrote:
Why don't we look at the actual stats and not some fantasy stat like TS%? JR Smith shoots over 50% of his career in TS%, including 52% this season.

Kyle Lowry isn't good but I'm never surprised when I see fans endorsing awful moves because they've done it before for Eddy Curry, Zach Randolph, Steve Francis, Jerome James, JR Smith, etc. This fanbase either never learns from the past or simply enjoys the abuse.

JR's TS% this year is .450

Man you're on fire being right.

Meant last season.

You sure do love to troll, don't you? For a guy (you) who is always wrong on everything he says you sure do love to show your arrogance.

Coming from a guy who says he's almost never wrong. Gotcha.

NewEra · Post #508 » by **NewEra** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:54 pm

Jay10 wrote:Shumpert fans, exhale: I'm told chances of him going to TOR in a Lowry deal are slim. Raps not high on him. Knicks prefer to keep (for now).

- howard beck

blueNorange · Post #509 » by **blueNorange** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:54 pm

damedash09 wrote:THJR is the new great player around here while shumpert is the get rid of player

you know how it is, it's like clockwork.

Mike Breen · Post #510 » by **Mike Breen** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:54 pm

Mr_Perfect wrote:
BeagleBoss wrote:This team needs a trade so I'm all for Lowry. Shumpert keeps declining so if he needs to be included, so be it. Kid sucks. He really does! Landry Fields 2.0. Shumpert will never average 10 ppg in his career and he hasn't played D since his rookie season. And he's mentally WEAK with fake hustle.

This is a terrible post.

Shumpert is struggling because Woodson is awful. You weren't saying this about Shumpert when he was thriving under D'Antoni.

In what universe did Shumpert thrive under D'antoni?

It certainly isn't the universe where he shot sub-.400 FG% and sub-.300 3P% on 10ppg.

Newyorknick94 · Post #511 » by **Newyorknick94** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:55 pm

Felton Aldrich and 2018 pick swap for Lowry!

MaseInYourFace · Post #512 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:55 pm

NewEra wrote:Why would the raps trade Lowry for Felton?

Because they are looking for a Tank Commander.

Post #513 » by **mpharris36** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:55 pm

JustaKnickFan wrote:
GoodAzzGame_NYK wrote:
JustaKnickFan wrote:There are so many things that are bad about trading Shumpert for Lowry
Pros:
-Marginal PG upgrade (upgrade at the things the Knicks are already good at like 3pt shooting and PG scoring)
Cons:
-Lose valuable trade asset
-trading a player when his value is at his lowest
-Lowry is an expiring contract, he probably isn't staying
-Lowry isn't the difference between playoffs, not worth trading for

I can go on and on, but it's stupid trades like the one being proposed that can kill a franchise.

When you look at all the stuff this team does badly, it's the stuff that isn't as bad that stands out.

how about arguably the teams biggest weakness, defending opposing pg's?

felton can't do it to save his life, lowry can.

Greenie · Post #514 » by **Greenie** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:55 pm

damedash09 wrote:Is kyle lowry getting a contract extension here

Bet you he will...

dibiaseink11 · Post #515 » by **dibiaseink11** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:55 pm

Why would the Craptors trade for two currently injured players? I don't see any trades till after Chandler comes back.

JohnStarksTheDunk · Post #516 » by **JohnStarksTheDunk** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:55 pm

[GR] wrote:
Shump needs an attitude adjustment

Or perhaps a new coach?

I'm not saying Woodson is to blame for all of his struggles, but it seems silly to give up on a guy completely when he is playing for a guy that is a lame duck at this point anyway.

Newyorknick94 · Post #517 » by **Newyorknick94** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:55 pm

NewEra wrote:Why would the raps trade Lowry for Felton?

To prevent Denver from getting the number 1 pick.

Mr_Perfect · Post #518 » by **Mr_Perfect** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:56 pm

Fury wrote:
Mr_Perfect wrote:
Fury wrote:
JR's TS% this year is .450

Man you're on fire being right.

Meant last season.

You sure do love to troll, don't you? For a guy (you) who is always wrong on everything he says you sure do love to show your arrogance.

Coming from a guy who says he's almost never wrong. Gotcha.

Am I lying? You tell me, Basketball God.

I say the facts and I'm usually proven right. You insult people like me and are always proven wrong. Who is the one who is being arrogant here? The instigator or someone like me speaking the truth? Don't disappear again when you're wrong about Lowry.

F N 11 · Post #519 » by **F N 11** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:56 pm

Newyorknick94 wrote:Felton Aldrich and 2018 pick swap for Lowry!

Is this it?

blueNorange · Post #520 » by **blueNorange** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:56 pm

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
damedash09 wrote:THJR is the new great player around here while shumpert is the get rid of player

It makes sense though. Shumpert has a serious injury history, has not advanced his play, and is closer to coming off his rookie deal than THJR.

so it makes trading a guy who's nearing his rookie deal for a guy who's expiring?

that's not stupid.