Raps trying to trade us Lowry...

[GR] · Post #721 » by **[GR]** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:47 pm

Lowry on the Pacers, and they don't miss a beat. Their PGs don't run the offense like most other teams. Lance does most of the playmaking. Hill isnt even having that good of a season

Lord Commander · Post #722 » by **Lord Commander** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:48 pm

god shammgod wrote:Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixSI 5m

Toronto holding firm on asking price of quality young player and/or a first round pick, rival execs say. This could be a prolonged process

Then they can sucka caulk...

Post #723 » by **mpharris36** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:48 pm

ok so now George Hill is maning the ship of the pacers

that is like saying Mario Chalmers is maning the ship of the heat.....

Fury · Post #724 » by **Fury** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:48 pm

ibraheim718 wrote:
Fury wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
Bro.. one guy is manning the ship for a 19 win team and the other is sinking the ship of a 7 win team.

Hill at least knows how to get his team in position to win games... Lowry doesn't.

Again.. Stop it please.. If Hill was on Toronto he'd be outperforming Lowry in every major statistical category but he's not.. he's on a team with title aspirations you think Lowry can get to where he's at?

LOL Put George Hill on the Raptors and see him man the ship to 19 wins. What George Hill has over Kyle Lowry is better shooting and better teammates.

He'd put up better numbers than Lowry in Toronto. He put up 15, 5, and 4 on a team that took Miami to the wire in the ECF. Just quit comparing the two players in a vacuum. Who would you rather have running the point for your team?

Kyle Lowry has put up 13, 7, and 4 on a playoff team. As the lead PG. He can do it with good teammates. George Hill hasn't proven that as the lead guard.

I rather have Kyle Lowry for a few reasons. One, he's tough. Since Villanova, defending PGs. Two, he plays like a NYC point guard, relentless. He's what Felton is supposed to be. Three, he does a little bit of everything. That's the sign of someone who knows how to play basketball, doing different things. George Hill could barely handle, struggles against the pressure, can shoot, but can't really create, and doesn't do of much else. I'll take the all-around player.

Post #725 » by **j4remi** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:49 pm

Just based on player, I take George Hill over Lowry but I'm not big on either of them.

Bill Pidto · Post #726 » by **Bill Pidto** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:49 pm

No way I trade Shump for Lowry. Come on now. This season is dead. Why are we trading our only chips for marginal point guards? Lowry is going to turn this joke of a season around?

Post #727 » by **mpharris36** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:49 pm

ToHoleWithSoul wrote:
god shammgod wrote:Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixSI 5m

Toronto holding firm on asking price of quality young player and/or a first round pick, rival execs say. This could be a prolonged process

Then they can sucka caulk...

how is it and/or

its got to be one or the other. That is a huge difference in asking price.

They aren't getting a good young player and a pick for a few months rental...sorry.

don't panac · Post #728 » by **don't panac** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:49 pm

god shammgod wrote:Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixSI 5m

Toronto holding firm on asking price of quality young player and/or a first round pick, rival execs say. This could be a prolonged process

i think the current 6th man of the year qualifies.

Slackstring701 · Post #729 » by **Slackstring701** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:49 pm

Lowry would make the Pacers better than Hill ...

Only thing Lowry couldn't do that Hill is really good at is guarding SG's.

Lowry is a wicked 3 point shooter, better playmaker, better at getting to the rim, more consistent catch and shoot

nykfan42 · Post #730 » by **nykfan42** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:50 pm

It's not happening. Masai is out to screw us again. Probably asking for multiple picks and Timmy/Shump. Kick rocks you dirtbag.

Post #731 » by **j4remi** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:50 pm

[GR] wrote:Lowry on the Pacers, and they don't miss a beat. Their PGs don't run the offense like most other teams. Lance does most of the playmaking. Hill isnt even having that good of a season

The issue with Lowry would be that he's prone to fall into a chucking vacuum and I like Hill's defense over Lowry's since Lowry went to Toronto (though he could just be slacking due to the situation he's in)

Mr_Perfect · Post #732 » by **Mr_Perfect** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:50 pm

Bill Pidto wrote:No way I trade Shump for Lowry. Come on now. This season is dead. Why are we trading our only chips for marginal point guards? Lowry is going to turn this joke of a season around?

You got the right idea.

Riot Randolph · Post #733 » by **Riot Randolph** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:51 pm

Fury wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
Fury wrote:
Dude, come on. George Hill isn't even a PG. He was a SG in college. He doesn't pass well for a PG, and could barely handle, and he doesn't rebound like Lowry. He might be a slightly better defender, and a better shooter, but this year his shooting has sucked. GTFO with the stop it. George Hill is overrated as s hit playing with 3 All Stars.

Bro.. one guy is manning the ship for a 19 win team and the other is sinking the ship of a 7 win team.

Hill at least knows how to get his team in position to win games... Lowry doesn't.

Again.. Stop it please.. If Hill was on Toronto he'd be outperforming Lowry in every major statistical category but he's not.. he's on a team with title aspirations you think Lowry can get to where he's at?

LOL Put George Hill on the Raptors and see him man the ship to 19 wins. What George Hill has over Kyle Lowry is better shooting and better teammates.

and alot of Fg% is quality around you...

NYK 455 · Post #734 » by **NYK 455** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:51 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
asham27 wrote:
JayKnicKz11 wrote:we are destined to get raped in this trade, I just hope not.

"I've made my career raping the Knicks"

-Masai Ujiri

"I'm considered a great GM even though I've acquired Ray Felton twice and a single great player never."

He made Denver better by getting rid of Melo while he had no leverage, and Denver is sitting pretty for a good pick. Toronto got rid of Bargs for a pick. Ray Felton is irrelevant in this equation, as he was only a piece in both deals. He works for their tank, anyhow.

You're being too simple minded here, look at the whole picture, and not just Ray Feltons value as a player.

ibraheim718 · Post #735 » by **ibraheim718** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:51 pm

You guys just don't think when you get into these arguments with me. :lol:

Go ahead get your shots in now... I'll get them in later I always do.

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #736 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:51 pm

GoodAzzGame_NYK wrote:ok so now George Hill is maning the ship of the pacers

that is like saying Mario Chalmers is maning the ship of the heat.....

Both guys are better shooters and defenders than Lowry. Why would Indy/Miami prefer Lowry for his dribble-penetration skills when they have other guys to do that?

damedash09 · Post #737 » by **damedash09** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:51 pm

Lakers might be next to get it on lowry

they're down nash,farmar and now blake

KBergCBS Steve Blake will miss at least 6 weeks with a torn ligament in his right elbow, the Lakers say

Fury · Post #738 » by **Fury** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:52 pm

j4remi wrote:
[GR] wrote:Lowry on the Pacers, and they don't miss a beat. Their PGs don't run the offense like most other teams. Lance does most of the playmaking. Hill isnt even having that good of a season

The issue with Lowry would be that he's prone to fall into a chucking vacuum and I like Hill's defense over Lowry's since Lowry went to Toronto (though he could just be slacking due to the situation he's in)

Kyle Lowry gets this rep as a chucker but he really doesn't take that many shots. Especially for someone who averages nearly 15 a game.

In fact, he's taking the same amount of shots George Hill took last year.

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #739 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:52 pm

damedash09 wrote:Lakers might be next to get it on lowry

they're down nash,farmar and now blake

KBergCBS Steve Blake will miss at least 6 weeks with a torn ligament in his right elbow, the Lakers say

They have nothing to trade.

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #740 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:52 pm

[GR] wrote:Lowry on the Pacers, and they don't miss a beat. Their PGs don't run the offense like most other teams. Lance does most of the playmaking. Hill isnt even having that good of a season

Except their spacing and defense would be worse...