Raps trying to trade us Lowry...

delvec19 · Post #881 » by **delvec19** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:20 pm

I'm going to throw up. How can they keep trading picks? HOW?!?!?!?!?

Mike Breen · Post #882 » by **Mike Breen** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:20 pm

NYKfan77 wrote:Did the final deal get reported yet? That 2018 pick needs to be lotto protected or a pick swap

If MWP is part of the deal, it can't be reported until Sunday because you can't trade MWP until then.

god shammgod · Post #883 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:20 pm

NYKfan77 wrote:Did the final deal get reported yet? That 2018 pick needs to be lotto protected or a pick swap

we won't know that unless it happens and it can't till sunday

Fury · Post #884 » by **Fury** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:20 pm

The Knicks trade more picks than a Geno Smith vs. Eli Manning game.

knickabocker88 · Post #885 » by **knickabocker88** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:21 pm

KnicksGod wrote:I do think Lowry is a bit of a chucker. But slight chuckers are not bad -- shows guts and a desire to win the game.

Sounds like Raymond Felton

Dr. Detfink · Post #886 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:21 pm

Whoa...what happened to all the Felton lovers when Lin signed by the Rockets?

Apparently Felton's Portland days weren't a complete fabrication of the truth.

Mars_Blackmon · Post #887 » by **Mars_Blackmon** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:21 pm

Lowry makes us better, dude is a baller and he defends

Tyson comes back and then we begin rolling

johnnywishbone · Post #888 » by **johnnywishbone** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:21 pm

Since89 wrote:How is

Billups, Melo, Brewer, AC

for

Felton, Chandler, Gallo, Mozgov

a great deal for Denver? its good because Melo was leaving anyway i assume but talent wise the Knicks clearly win that trade

it was Dantonis dumbass fault for not playing Brewer here either

You are leaving out a 2014 first round draft pick (which could be lottery the way things are going) and Kosta Koufos.

So if you look at Denver's team from that trade they have

Wilson Chandler (probably second best player on the team)
Darrel Arthur (used Koufos)
Andre Miller (used Raymond Felton to get)
Mozgov (who has played well for them this year)
Gallo

plus a first round draft pick this year and the rights to swap in 2016.

You can say that's not a great trade but at least put the facts up there.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #889 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:21 pm

Mr. Natural wrote:Knicks pursuing trade for Kyle Lowry
Adrian Wojnarowski
By Adrian Wojnarowski 26 minutes ago Yahoo Sports

The New York Knicks are pursuing Toronto point guard Kyle Lowry with a package of Raymond Felton, Metta World Peace and a 2018 first-round draft pick, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Toronto is discussing deals for Lowry with an ever-growing list of teams, league sources said.

Several teams are pursuing Lowry, but the Knicks' most direct competition for him could come from the Brooklyn Nets, who are also exploring the possibility of a deal, league sources said.

Within the Knicks, there's hesitance on including the draft pick, but there's no chance a deal for Lowry could get done without it, sources said. Nevertheless, there's still doubt on how long New York will keep a pick on the table, sources said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/knicks-pur ... 33654.html

trade him to the nets! prokhy/king are just as bad as we are when it comes to trading picks. maybe they will try to one up us and include 2 first round picks and conditional seconds. PLEASE BE THAT STUPID

ibraheim718 · Post #890 » by **ibraheim718** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:21 pm

Fury wrote:I'm not thrilled with giving up the pick, but Dolan is the definition of YOLO.

Glad we didn't give up Shumpert. Lowry and Shumpert could be really good with a good coach.

But you get rid of the coach and figure out what kind of basketball team you want to be and then you start making moves.

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #891 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:21 pm

god shammgod wrote:lowry is a marginal upgrade from felton but not this year's felton. he's a lot better. and that's what the knicks are worried about. this latest injury sealed ray's fate.

Exactly. Felton has gone off a cliff and it's gonna take a month before we know if last year's Felton is ever coming back.

Mr_Perfect · Post #892 » by **Mr_Perfect** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:21 pm

GoodAzzGame_NYK wrote:
Mr_Perfect wrote:
GoodAzzGame_NYK wrote:for a team that will never try and tank - having a pick every year isn't as good as it seems. The knicks are always going to try to win while they have Melo.

Say what you want...i will be more pissed if we give the raptors money in the deal. We need to keep our money so we can just buy a pick come draft time.

Picks are a waste if you don't tank enough to get a quality one and then have time to develope them.

What? Is this post for real?

This is the kind of logic Dolan or Isiah would use.

if you aren't going to tank properly, which the knicks will never do...honestly getting a 17 or 18 pick in the 1st round is that going to be a game changing player?

im trying to use the logic of how our organzation is ran and if the deal happens. Sorry i don't live in a fantasy world

If the option is trading shump or the 2018 pick...i choose trading the pick

that is my logic

I'm trying to understand if you're serious. Are you being serious? Are you really saying the draft is worthless outside of the lottery? How many good players have been drafted from 15 and on? Furthermore, how many future picks did we trade that ending up becoming lottery picks did we trade under Isiah? We didn't have to "tank". We just sucked. We suck right now too. What makes you think they'll be good 5 years from now?

Your logic (if you can call this logic) simply makes no sense.

Post #893 » by **mpharris36** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:21 pm

god shammgod wrote:lowry is a marginal upgrade from felton but not this year's felton. he's a lot better. and that's what the knicks are worried about. this latest injury sealed ray's fate.

added bonus is we don't have to see 2 more years of this of felton as well...he is only going to get fatter

Post #894 » by **K_ick_God** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:21 pm

Masai AND Wojina using the Nets again.

LOL

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #895 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:22 pm

Ultimately I wouldn't trade an unprotected 2018 first round pick even if Melo said do it or I'm leaving. But I am excited to see some passable PG play.

Fury · Post #896 » by **Fury** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:22 pm

ibraheim718 wrote:
Fury wrote:I'm not thrilled with giving up the pick, but Dolan is the definition of YOLO.

Glad we didn't give up Shumpert. Lowry and Shumpert could be really good with a good coach.

But you get rid of the coach and figure out what kind of basketball team you want to be and then you start making moves.

Get a dude who gets these guys running. Even **** ty ass Felton is better when we run. Lowry, Shumpert, and THJR on the fast break? That's not bad. Get Kevin Love in here to throw outlet passes, and you got yourself a stew.

Jay10 · Post #897 » by **Jay10** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:22 pm

Fury wrote:The Knicks trade more picks than a Geno Smith vs. Eli Manning game.

This is what happens when you go out of you way to appease to Carmelo.

ibraheim718 · Post #898 » by **ibraheim718** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:22 pm

Dr. Detfink wrote:Whoa...what happened to all the Felton lovers when Lin signed by the Rockets?

Apparently Felton's Portland days weren't a complete fabrication of the truth.

Let it be they were clouded by hurt feelings and a false sense of betrayal.. it was only natural

Fat · Post #899 » by **Fat** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:22 pm

if Lowry is the key to a championship this year, would anyone still care about the pick?

bklynstoops · Post #900 » by **bklynstoops** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:22 pm

ibraheim718 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:lowry is better than felton, yes...but the margin isnt big enough to include a **** pick or shump. **** that ****

That's where I've been the whole time. Save the pick and see if someone else becomes available later.

i'm with the two of you, but they can't help themselves. What's the point? Are we really going to sign this guy long term? He's our PG for the future?