GT: Nets vs LA Clippers - 12/12 - 8:00pm | TNT

[624]

Man, the posters in the GT on the GB are such annoying haters.

Pregame prediction: Clippers win blowout fashion lol.
During game: Game so boring, Nets still suck.
End of game: Who cares...just skip to HOU-POR.

smh...

Getting banned from the GB was the best thing to happen to me.

[Paradise]

Want to hear a joke? The Clipper players have a party event planned at Greenhouse club in Manhattan tonight. This was planned BEFORE the game.



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[JMaine518]

I didn't expect to sound like this. Not quiet at all.
http://youtu.be/NUeRHjGzdIA

[NyCeEvO]

I didn't expect to sound like this. Not quiet at all.
http://youtu.be/NUeRHjGzdIA

Oh Kidd

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[LOUiS-D]

I didn't expect to sound like this. Not quiet at all.
http://youtu.be/NUeRHjGzdIA

Oh Kidd

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"We gotta end the game the right way!" Good point Jason. Gotta play 48 minutes to win.
"Right?!" Yep
"Everybody's done right!" Ummm.. yep
"We can't end it wrong" Ok.. I feel you.. more right, less wrong
"Keep playin', they gonna keep playing!" That's right, you can't rely on the other team to roll over. Gotta step on their neck. Confirm the Kill. Preach it coach!!

Has he done any boxing? He gives off a boxer's vibe. Either way he's a fighter.

[therealbig3]

Checked out the schedule...the next really good team we play is the Pacers on December 23rd...between now and then, we play teams like the Pistons, Wizards, and Sixers. Yes, we are absolutely capable of losing to them, I know that, but we also have a chance to win a bunch of games and get back to .500 pretty quickly if we simply bring the same effort and energy we brought last night.

Things are looking up.

[SpeedyG]

Purposely stayed away again. It sucks, I want to see my team win live, but it's working.

Don't worry man...I missed the last two games before this one and thought the same thing. I cautiously turned on the tv to watch this game and they won anyway!! Start enjoying the games!

Rich is that guy from the beer commercial whose team always win everytime he goes to the basement.

[therealbig3]

Another thing that should be mentioned...Alan Anderson played like garbage offensively, and he took a lot of really bad shots, I was furious with him at many points throughout the game...but his defense was outstanding. Stayed in front of Paul whenever he was matched up with him and did a great job, and he forced a jump ball at another important point of the game too.

KG deserves props too...didn't get much playing time because of foul trouble and us pulling away before the 4th quarter, and he didn't do much offensively, but his defense was straight up elite. Communicating, trapping, covering ground, and shutting down Griffin. This is the KG I was expecting when we made the trade.

Pierce looks better than he has all season as a bench player. More aggressive, facilitates better, and there's a clear hierarchy when he's out there with the 2nd unit. He's been solid these last 2 games off the bench, and I honestly think this should be a permanent change. When Kirilenko comes back, I'm not even sure if he should start over Anderson. I'm not saying that as if Anderson is all that good...it's just that Anderson is a good shooter and spaces the floor. Kirilenko doesn't shoot the 3 ball well, even though he's very active off the ball. I think Pierce and Kirilenko together off the bench would be such a force to be reckoned with on the 2nd unit. Especially with Kirilenko at PF.

[exculpatory]

Another thing that should be mentioned...Alan Anderson played like garbage offensively, and he took a lot of really bad shots, I was furious with him at many points throughout the game...but his defense was outstanding. Stayed in front of Paul whenever he was matched up with him and did a great job, and he forced a jump ball at another important point of the game too.

KG deserves props too...didn't get much playing time because of foul trouble and us pulling away before the 4th quarter, and he didn't do much offensively, but his defense was straight up elite. Communicating, trapping, covering ground, and shutting down Griffin. This is the KG I was expecting when we made the trade.

Pierce looks better than he has all season as a bench player. More aggressive, facilitates better, and there's a clear hierarchy when he's out there with the 2nd unit. He's been solid these last 2 games off the bench, and I honestly think this should be a permanent change. When Kirilenko comes back, I'm not even sure if he should start over Anderson. I'm not saying that as if Anderson is all that good...it's just that Anderson is a good shooter and spaces the floor. Kirilenko doesn't shoot the 3 ball well, even though he's very active off the ball. I think Pierce and Kirilenko together off the bench would be such a force to be reckoned with on the 2nd unit. Especially with Kirilenko at PF.

I am potentially ok with Paul facilitating & scoring for the second unit - AS LONG AS he is ALSO playing down the stretch of close games. The Nets MUST take full advantage of 1) his elite shooting (which I GUARANTEE you will return once his fracture has fully healed/the boxing glove on his shooting hand is no longer necessary); AND 2) his career-long elite clutchness. Jason knows this very well. (Aside: Paul hit 2 of his too numerous to count last minute/second game winners over Kidd. LOL.)

[therealbig3]

Another thing that should be mentioned...Alan Anderson played like garbage offensively, and he took a lot of really bad shots, I was furious with him at many points throughout the game...but his defense was outstanding. Stayed in front of Paul whenever he was matched up with him and did a great job, and he forced a jump ball at another important point of the game too.

KG deserves props too...didn't get much playing time because of foul trouble and us pulling away before the 4th quarter, and he didn't do much offensively, but his defense was straight up elite. Communicating, trapping, covering ground, and shutting down Griffin. This is the KG I was expecting when we made the trade.

Pierce looks better than he has all season as a bench player. More aggressive, facilitates better, and there's a clear hierarchy when he's out there with the 2nd unit. He's been solid these last 2 games off the bench, and I honestly think this should be a permanent change. When Kirilenko comes back, I'm not even sure if he should start over Anderson. I'm not saying that as if Anderson is all that good...it's just that Anderson is a good shooter and spaces the floor. Kirilenko doesn't shoot the 3 ball well, even though he's very active off the ball. I think Pierce and Kirilenko together off the bench would be such a force to be reckoned with on the 2nd unit. Especially with Kirilenko at PF.

I am potentially ok with Paul facilitating & scoring for the second unit - AS LONG AS he is ALSO playing down the stretch of close games. The Nets MUST take full advantage of 1) his elite shooting (which I GUARANTEE you will return once his fracture has fully healed/the boxing glove on his shooting hand is no longer necessary); AND 2) his career-long elite clutchness. Jason knows this very well. (Aside: Paul hit 2 of his too numerous to count last minute/second game winners over Kidd. LOL.)

I envision a Manu Ginobili role for Pierce...a 6th man that gets 25 minutes, leads the 2nd unit, but also plays plenty of minutes with the starters and is out there down the stretch of close games.

[exculpatory]

Another thing that should be mentioned...Alan Anderson played like garbage offensively, and he took a lot of really bad shots, I was furious with him at many points throughout the game...but his defense was outstanding. Stayed in front of Paul whenever he was matched up with him and did a great job, and he forced a jump ball at another important point of the game too.

KG deserves props too...didn't get much playing time because of foul trouble and us pulling away before the 4th quarter, and he didn't do much offensively, but his defense was straight up elite. Communicating, trapping, covering ground, and shutting down Griffin. This is the KG I was expecting when we made the trade.

Pierce looks better than he has all season as a bench player. More aggressive, facilitates better, and there's a clear hierarchy when he's out there with the 2nd unit. He's been solid these last 2 games off the bench, and I honestly think this should be a permanent change. When Kirilenko comes back, I'm not even sure if he should start over Anderson. I'm not saying that as if Anderson is all that good...it's just that Anderson is a good shooter and spaces the floor. Kirilenko doesn't shoot the 3 ball well, even though he's very active off the ball. I think Pierce and Kirilenko together off the bench would be such a force to be reckoned with on the 2nd unit. Especially with Kirilenko at PF.

I am potentially ok with Paul facilitating & scoring for the second unit - AS LONG AS he is ALSO playing down the stretch of close games. The Nets MUST take full advantage of 1) his elite shooting (which I GUARANTEE you will return once his fracture has fully healed/the boxing glove on his shooting hand is no longer necessary); AND 2) his career-long elite clutchness. Jason knows this very well. (Aside: Paul hit 2 of his too numerous to count last minute/second game winners over Kidd. LOL.)

I envision a Manu Ginobili role for Pierce...a 6th man that gets 25 minutes, leads the 2nd unit, but also plays plenty of minutes with the starters and is out there down the stretch of close games.

Make that 25 minutes during easy wins & 30+ minutes (whatever is necessary) during very important/close games, &, as they say in the South, I "might could" support that role.

[exculpatory]

PS: Totally agree re KG. Aside from hitting a few Js here & there, his primary role should be the excellent D that he is STILL very capable of playing.

[Prokorov]

By the way, the Nets are out of the Lowry sweepstakes. Billy is unwilling to trade the 2019 pick for him.

Per Howard Beck.

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now he holds off on our picks??? lol.... bout **** time...

any word on the Bogs rumors? I'm catching off ND n his crew that th FO is ssplit on whether to move him or not

If we can get Lowry for Bogs + Filler i think we have to do it.

1) im not sure we can trust derons health. and we have seen what we look like without deron. second, I think you can play lowry/livingston and dwill together in 3 gaurd sets and have lowry gaurd the 1 and have it really help us at times with quicker PGs. i wouldnt even be against starting 2 PGs for stretches with pierce/anderson on the bench.

2) Once bogs is ready to play this team will likely be in transition. despite our poor start our window is this year and maybe next year before things go to hell and we need to make a major move. I think lowry helps more now and i think bogs isnt a guy super key to our future as a player. as an assett, he might be, but i still do it.

[Prokorov]

Checked out the schedule...the next really good team we play is the Pacers on December 23rd...between now and then, we play teams like the Pistons, Wizards, and Sixers. Yes, we are absolutely capable of losing to them, I know that, but we also have a chance to win a bunch of games and get back to .500 pretty quickly if we simply bring the same effort and energy we brought last night.

Things are looking up.

this is put up or shut up time. We got embarassed by the pistons and blew a late 15 point lead against the wizards. these below average teams have been beating us with little resistance all year. now its time to show that we can dispose of these teams and do so while flexing our muscle and having the outcome not be in doubt.

i shouldnt have to worry about whether or not we can beat a sizers team whose main goal is to tank. but not only do i fear a loss, but if fear we will lose to them by 10+ after losing to the wizards in a laugher.

i just dont trust these teams mental make up yet. they can go a long way by disposing these 3 teams convicingly

[Prokorov]

Another thing that should be mentioned...Alan Anderson played like garbage offensively, and he took a lot of really bad shots, I was furious with him at many points throughout the game...but his defense was outstanding. Stayed in front of Paul whenever he was matched up with him and did a great job, and he forced a jump ball at another important point of the game too.

KG deserves props too...didn't get much playing time because of foul trouble and us pulling away before the 4th quarter, and he didn't do much offensively, but his defense was straight up elite. Communicating, trapping, covering ground, and shutting down Griffin. This is the KG I was expecting when we made the trade.

Pierce looks better than he has all season as a bench player. More aggressive, facilitates better, and there's a clear hierarchy when he's out there with the 2nd unit. He's been solid these last 2 games off the bench, and I honestly think this should be a permanent change. When Kirilenko comes back, I'm not even sure if he should start over Anderson. I'm not saying that as if Anderson is all that good...it's just that Anderson is a good shooter and spaces the floor. Kirilenko doesn't shoot the 3 ball well, even though he's very active off the ball. I think Pierce and Kirilenko together off the bench would be such a force to be reckoned with on the 2nd unit. Especially with Kirilenko at PF.

I am potentially ok with Paul facilitating & scoring for the second unit - AS LONG AS he is ALSO playing down the stretch of close games. The Nets MUST take full advantage of 1) his elite shooting (which I GUARANTEE you will return once his fracture has fully healed/the boxing glove on his shooting hand is no longer necessary); AND 2) his career-long elite clutchness. Jason knows this very well. (Aside: Paul hit 2 of his too numerous to count last minute/second game winners over Kidd. LOL.)

I think down the stretch just takes care of itself. If Pierce has it going and is playing well and its a tight game you obviously put him out there. If he isnt and we need defense in there you go with Anderson or AK or whatever. As far as last second shots, I still like joe johnson as our main target there. He can get his shot off against anyone and has been the most clutch player in the league the last year or so. ISO-Joe is a poor game plan for 48 minutes, but when you just need 1 shot its a good bet he will get a great look and make it most times.

[Prokorov]

Another thing that should be mentioned...Alan Anderson played like garbage offensively, and he took a lot of really bad shots, I was furious with him at many points throughout the game...but his defense was outstanding. Stayed in front of Paul whenever he was matched up with him and did a great job, and he forced a jump ball at another important point of the game too.

KG deserves props too...didn't get much playing time because of foul trouble and us pulling away before the 4th quarter, and he didn't do much offensively, but his defense was straight up elite. Communicating, trapping, covering ground, and shutting down Griffin. This is the KG I was expecting when we made the trade.

Pierce looks better than he has all season as a bench player. More aggressive, facilitates better, and there's a clear hierarchy when he's out there with the 2nd unit. He's been solid these last 2 games off the bench, and I honestly think this should be a permanent change. When Kirilenko comes back, I'm not even sure if he should start over Anderson. I'm not saying that as if Anderson is all that good...it's just that Anderson is a good shooter and spaces the floor. Kirilenko doesn't shoot the 3 ball well, even though he's very active off the ball. I think Pierce and Kirilenko together off the bench would be such a force to be reckoned with on the 2nd unit. Especially with Kirilenko at PF.

I am potentially ok with Paul facilitating & scoring for the second unit - AS LONG AS he is ALSO playing down the stretch of close games. The Nets MUST take full advantage of 1) his elite shooting (which I GUARANTEE you will return once his fracture has fully healed/the boxing glove on his shooting hand is no longer necessary); AND 2) his career-long elite clutchness. Jason knows this very well. (Aside: Paul hit 2 of his too numerous to count last minute/second game winners over Kidd. LOL.)

I envision a Manu Ginobili role for Pierce...a 6th man that gets 25 minutes, leads the 2nd unit, but also plays plenty of minutes with the starters and is out there down the stretch of close games.

Yeah, I think thats a great comparison. I think whenever pierce is in that its important that he is really aggressive and plays his game. I dont think its in his personality not to. With Joe Johnson, he is just different, I think you can put him in either the alpha role or the secondary role player type role and he will be fine with either. Pierce I think you want him trying to score when he is out there and i think that is much more suited with the second unit.

[therealbig3]

Can you post PP's 2 special assists in the first half? One was a dish to Brook. I think the other was a dish to Plumley?

I couldn't find the dish to Plumlee, but I found the one to Brook:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YtUKaUC80E[/youtube]

[exculpatory]

Can you post PP's 2 special assists in the first half? One was a dish to Brook. I think the other was a dish to Plumley?

I couldn't find the dish to Plumlee, but I found the one to Brook:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YtUKaUC80E[/youtube]

Thanks!!

Beautiful dish! It takes him awhile, but Paul almost always gets to where he wants to go. :0)

[exculpatory]

Another thing that should be mentioned...Alan Anderson played like garbage offensively, and he took a lot of really bad shots, I was furious with him at many points throughout the game...but his defense was outstanding. Stayed in front of Paul whenever he was matched up with him and did a great job, and he forced a jump ball at another important point of the game too.

KG deserves props too...didn't get much playing time because of foul trouble and us pulling away before the 4th quarter, and he didn't do much offensively, but his defense was straight up elite. Communicating, trapping, covering ground, and shutting down Griffin. This is the KG I was expecting when we made the trade.

Pierce looks better than he has all season as a bench player. More aggressive, facilitates better, and there's a clear hierarchy when he's out there with the 2nd unit. He's been solid these last 2 games off the bench, and I honestly think this should be a permanent change. When Kirilenko comes back, I'm not even sure if he should start over Anderson. I'm not saying that as if Anderson is all that good...it's just that Anderson is a good shooter and spaces the floor. Kirilenko doesn't shoot the 3 ball well, even though he's very active off the ball. I think Pierce and Kirilenko together off the bench would be such a force to be reckoned with on the 2nd unit. Especially with Kirilenko at PF.

I am potentially ok with Paul facilitating & scoring for the second unit - AS LONG AS he is ALSO playing down the stretch of close games. The Nets MUST take full advantage of 1) his elite shooting (which I GUARANTEE you will return once his fracture has fully healed/the boxing glove on his shooting hand is no longer necessary); AND 2) his career-long elite clutchness. Jason knows this very well. (Aside: Paul hit 2 of his too numerous to count last minute/second game winners over Kidd. LOL.)

A. I think down the stretch just takes care of itself. If Pierce has it going and is playing well and its a tight game you obviously put him out there. If he isnt and we need defense in there you go with Anderson or AK or whatever.

B. As far as last second shots, I still like joe johnson as our main target there. He can get his shot off against anyone and has been the most clutch player in the league the last year or so. ISO-Joe is a poor game plan for 48 minutes, but when you just need 1 shot its a good bet he will get a great look and make it most times.

A. Reasonable.

B. Both Paul & Joe have made the killer shot MANY times - Joe a little more lately. Great to have TWO elite choices.

[exculpatory]

I am potentially ok with Paul facilitating & scoring for the second unit - AS LONG AS he is ALSO playing down the stretch of close games. The Nets MUST take full advantage of 1) his elite shooting (which I GUARANTEE you will return once his fracture has fully healed/the boxing glove on his shooting hand is no longer necessary); AND 2) his career-long elite clutchness. Jason knows this very well. (Aside: Paul hit 2 of his too numerous to count last minute/second game winners over Kidd. LOL.)

I envision a Manu Ginobili role for Pierce...a 6th man that gets 25 minutes, leads the 2nd unit, but also plays plenty of minutes with the starters and is out there down the stretch of close games.

Yeah, I think thats a great comparison. I think whenever pierce is in that its important that he is really aggressive and plays his game. I dont think its in his personality not to. With Joe Johnson, he is just different, I think you can put him in either the alpha role or the secondary role player type role and he will be fine with either. Pierce I think you want him trying to score when he is out there and i think that is much more suited with the second unit.

Very good points.