Raps trying to trade us Lowry...

Clyde_Style · Post #3261 » by **Clyde_Style** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:08 pm

Come on you pansies! Only 218 pages???

Mars_Blackmon · Post #3262 » by **Mars_Blackmon** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:12 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:
ca1 wrote:two points: First when Is Shump a FA-- bc Im not sure If I would throw the bank at shump and so theoritacally would letting shump go via trade or whatever and signing Lowry balance it all out ?

second: Melo COULD blow all of our minds this offseason and take less money which would make this "dont tradefir lowry bc it messed up 2015 mute".

Shump is "signed" through 2015, as his 4th year option was picked up, but he may not reach free agency as he can be negotiated into a new deal before that period comes up or placed as an RFA.

Lowry only impacts the "2015" if we were to re-sign him, but I honestly dont think he's contractually worth more than Felton's deal.

Lowry at 4/22 and Melo taking 5/100 would be sweet

Post #3263 » by **Thugger HBC** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:16 pm

ca1 wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
ca1 wrote:two points: First when Is Shump a FA-- bc Im not sure If I would throw the bank at shump and so theoritacally would letting shump go via trade or whatever and signing Lowry balance it all out ?

second: Melo COULD blow all of our minds this offseason and take less money which would make this "dont tradefir lowry bc it messed up 2015 mute".

Shump is "signed" through 2015, as his 4th year option was picked up, but he may not reach free agency as he can be negotiated into a new deal before that period comes up or placed as an RFA.

Lowry only impacts the "2015" if we were to re-sign him, but I honestly dont think he's contractually worth more than Felton's deal.

I believe Lowry is around 6 per year and Felton is 3.. I think

Yes that is what Lowry makes now, i feel he's slightly overpaid.

ca1 · Post #3264 » by **ca1** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:17 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:
ca1 wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Shump is "signed" through 2015, as his 4th year option was picked up, but he may not reach free agency as he can be negotiated into a new deal before that period comes up or placed as an RFA.

Lowry only impacts the "2015" if we were to re-sign him, but I honestly dont think he's contractually worth more than Felton's deal.

I believe Lowry is around 6 per year and Felton is 3.. I think

Yes that is what Lowry makes now, i feel he's slightly overpaid.

Prob.. Im guessing based on his current contract he prob would ask and get ... prob around 7-10 as a FA

Post #3265 » by **Thugger HBC** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:21 pm

ca1 wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
ca1 wrote:
I believe Lowry is around 6 per year and Felton is 3.. I think

Yes that is what Lowry makes now, i feel he's slightly overpaid.

Prob.. Im guessing based on his current contract he prob would ask and get ... prob around 7-10 as a FA

He wont be dealt if teams think that price is on his mind....a little too much for an average player.

ca1 · Post #3266 » by **ca1** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:22 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:
ca1 wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Yes that is what Lowry makes now, i feel he's slightly overpaid.

Prob.. Im guessing based on his current contract he prob would ask and get ... prob around 7-10 as a FA

He wont be dealt if teams think that price is on his mind....a little too much for an average player.

I totally agree..

Context · Post #3267 » by **Context** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:50 pm

Its getting interesting out there for us huh?

Nyk4lyfe · Post #3268 » by **Nyk4lyfe** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:16 am

Can we just pay a higher premium and get someone like Dragic? Pass-first, young, good attitude, good contract PG. I'd give any 1 of the three "valuable" assets we have, and then some.

Or another option is paying a lower premium for Vazquez

ca1 · Post #3269 » by **ca1** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:20 am

Nyk4lyfe wrote:Can we just pay a higher premium and get someone like Dragic? Pass-first, young, good attitude, good contract PG. I'd give any 1 of the three "valuable" assets we have, and then some.

Or another option is paying a lower premium for Vazquez

It takes two to tango

I doubt they wanna deal him

Scarface844 · Post #3270 » by **Scarface844** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:30 am

Nyk4lyfe wrote:Can we just pay a higher premium and get someone like Dragic? Pass-first, young, good attitude, good contract PG. I'd give any 1 of the three "valuable" assets we have, and then some.

Or another option is paying a lower premium for Vazquez

We'd give you Vasquez but he's a pass first PG and we need him for 2 things. #1 the tank and #2 to develop Jonas. If he plays well this year, he's probably going to be our future backup PG.

HarthorneWingo · Post #3271 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:00 am

Scarface844 wrote:
Nyk4lyfe wrote:Can we just pay a higher premium and get someone like Dragic? Pass-first, young, good attitude, good contract PG. I'd give any 1 of the three "valuable" assets we have, and then some.

Or another option is paying a lower premium for Vazquez

We'd give you Vasquez but he's a pass first PG and we need him for 2 things. #1 the tank and #2 to develop Jonas. If he plays well this year, he's probably going to be our future backup PG.

Trust me, play Felton, you'll be fine with the tanking.

Scarface844 · Post #3272 » by **Scarface844** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:03 am

HawthorneWingo wrote:
Scarface844 wrote:
Nyk4lyfe wrote:Can we just pay a higher premium and get someone like Dragic? Pass-first, young, good attitude, good contract PG. I'd give any 1 of the three "valuable" assets we have, and then some.

Or another option is paying a lower premium for Vazquez

We'd give you Vasquez but he's a pass first PG and we need him for 2 things. #1 the tank and #2 to develop Jonas. If he plays well this year, he's probably going to be our future backup PG.

Trust me, play Felton, you'll be fine with the tanking.

Man you have to understand. Were trying to tank but we are trying to develop our young players. Felton can't do that plus he has a long contract and is a cancer in the locker room. Vasquez is a great tank PG because he sucks at defense but can help our players develop.

If we take Felton we want a unprotected 2018 1st round pick or Shumpert or Hardway Jr.

HarthorneWingo · Post #3273 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:05 am

Scarface844 wrote:
HawthorneWingo wrote:
Scarface844 wrote:We'd give you Vasquez but he's a pass first PG and we need him for 2 things. #1 the tank and #2 to develop Jonas. If he plays well this year, he's probably going to be our future backup PG.

Trust me, play Felton, you'll be fine with the tanking.

Man you have to understand. Were trying to tank but we are trying to develop our young players. Felton can't do that plus he has a long contract and is a cancer in the locker room. Vasquez is a great tank PG because he sucks at defense but can help our players develop.

If we take Felton we want a unprotected 2018 1st round pick or Shumpert or Hardway Jr.

Hey, I don't want to do this trade either. We need a pass first PG anyhow.

wolfv · Post #3274 » by **wolfv** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:08 am

I have a sick feeling my raptors will actually win the atlantic if something isn't done soon, so I'm at the point where I don't even want a draft pick back for Lowry.

Post #3275 » by **K_ick_God** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:12 am

wolfv wrote:I have a sick feeling my raptors will actually win the atlantic if something isn't done soon, so I'm at the point where I don't even want a draft pick back for Lowry.

Yeah exactly. Take Ray and you'll start losing games in bunches.

Scarface844 · Post #3276 » by **Scarface844** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:13 am

wolfv wrote:I have a sick feeling my raptors will actually win the atlantic if something isn't done soon, so I'm at the point where I don't even want a draft pick back for Lowry.

Na, look at our schedule coming up. Spurs, Heat, Indiana were going to get destroyed. Our next game isn't till Wed, Lowry will be gone by then. Not only will he be gone but Masai will get a good deal no matter what team it is. Can't give away your assets for nothing, got to be patient.

Since89 · Post #3277 » by **Since89** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:25 am

Shump + and a 1st for Dragic plz

HarthorneWingo · Post #3278 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:43 am

Since89 wrote:Shump + and a 1st for Dragic plz

And who are the 13-9 Suns supposed to start at PG? Ish Smith?

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #3279 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:24 am

HawthorneWingo wrote:
Since89 wrote:Shump + and a 1st for Dragic plz

And who are the 13-9 Suns supposed to start at PG? Ish Smith?

Eric Bledsoe. Note that the suns would laugh at the above offer. It would run all of shump hard away and the first to sniff at dragic

Scarface844 · Post #3280 » by **Scarface844** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:58 am

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Nets and Knicks are both willing to trade alot for Kyle Lowry from the Raptors. Will be interesting to see where he ends up.