Ersan Trade Ideas - Think hard guys (and Sanders)

AdonalFoyle4Prez · Post #341 » by **AdonalFoyle4Prez** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:45 am

theFireBlanket wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:Would you guys do a trade of Lee for Illyasova + Udoh + Ridnour?

Would you include Barnes? I know the answer, no...

No way. That's an awful trade.

If you guys include your 1st round, we'll include Barnes.

Illyasova + Udoh + Ridnour (collectively) > Lee? Contractual standpoint or production?

Treebeard · Post #342 » by **Treebeard** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:51 am

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
theFireBlanket wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:Would you guys do a trade of Lee for Illyasova + Udoh + Ridnour?

Would you include Barnes? I know the answer, no...

No way. That's an awful trade.

If you guys include your 1st round, we'll include Barnes.

Illyasova + Udoh + Ridnour (collectively) > Lee? Contractual standpoint or production?

No, just NO

CanadaBucks · Post #343 » by **CanadaBucks** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:54 am

wichmae wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:
wichmae wrote:I'm guessing it won't all be same deal.. Neal is coveted by Miami

Any first or Cole would be fine with me. Thanks for the info. Any news on Mayo? Do they want to stick through the storm and see if he becomes the player they thought?

Thinking youre getting anything of substance for Neal is foolish. Thats enough info on something I am not allowed to post.

I'd give Neal away more or less, gives you 3m extra next year. I think Minny could use him as well.

randy84 · Post #344 » by **randy84** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:57 am

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
theFireBlanket wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:Would you guys do a trade of Lee for Illyasova + Udoh + Ridnour?

Would you include Barnes? I know the answer, no...

No way. That's an awful trade.

If you guys include your 1st round, we'll include Barnes.

Illyasova + Udoh + Ridnour (collectively) > Lee? Contractual standpoint or production?

He would block Henson's development and he is expensive.

cinematographer · Post #345 » by **cinematographer** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:14 am

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:
theFireBlanket wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:Would you guys do a trade of Lee for Illyasova + Udoh + Ridnour?

Would you include Barnes? I know the answer, no...

No way. That's an awful trade.

If you guys include your 1st round, we'll include Barnes.

Illyasova + Udoh + Ridnour (collectively) > Lee? Contractual standpoint or production?

David Lee is ****. We won't get gold for Ersan, but we can get better than that.

Matches Malone · Post #346 » by **Matches Malone** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:57 am

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kufj56l

Just throwing **** against the wall... You could replace Turner with James Anderson or Tony Wroten and it works.

breakchains · Post #347 » by **breakchains** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:33 am

This may have been put out there already, maybe even by me, but what do people think of Sanders + Ersan for Schroder + 1st? I would think that would appeal to Atlanta, who was rumored to have interest in Asik.

Matches Malone · Post #348 » by **Matches Malone** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:53 am

breakchains wrote:This may have been put out there already, maybe even by me, but what do people think of Sanders + Ersan for Schroder + 1st? I would think that would appeal to Atlanta, who was rumored to have interest in Asik.

If the 1st is the one from Brooklyn and it ends up staying in the top 7 range then I'd probably do it.

bizarro · Post #349 » by **bizarro** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:55 am

StikWitEM wrote:
breakchains wrote:This may have been put out there already, maybe even by me, but what do people think of Sanders + Ersan for Schroder + 1st? I would think that would appeal to Atlanta, who was rumored to have interest in Asik.

If the 1st is the one from Brooklyn and it ends up staying in the top 7 range then I'd definitely do it.

Why would Atlanta? That would be a serious logjam for them...If Hammond were managing Atlanta this would be a deal worth pursuing. There's no way Ferry does this, imho.

EDIT: Also, factor in Teague's horrendous last month and I don't think Atlanta wants to part with a fairly promising young PG prospect.

ampd · Post #350 » by **ampd** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:14 am

randy84 wrote:That's because no one wanted to trade them when they had value. They waited until that were injured or sucked. Just like they are doing with Sanders and Ersan. Wash, rinse, repeat.

One of the things I absolutely can forgive our front office for is when we have a 23 year old playing at a DPOY level, their first thought isn't that they better get him off the team as fast as possible.

cinematographer · Post #351 » by **cinematographer** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:51 am

StikWitEM wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kufj56l

Just throwing **** against the wall... You could replace Turner with James Anderson or Tony Wroten and it works.

Turner needs the ball in his hands. Giannis should have the ball in his hands. Do not want.

Philly doesn't want to get rid of Hawes. Their GM is on the record of saying he wants to see if Hawes can be a Stretch-4 next to Noel. Additionally, the rumor with Philly involves Thad.

I love Wroten, but Terrence Jones scares me. So much of what he does is because of what Houston does. His skill set is nice, his treatment of homeless people fits well with Larry's treatment of dogs and Albanians, but Jones wouldn't have close to the same success here as a part of Drew's ****.

msiris · Post #352 » by **msiris** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:31 am

Ersan and Miroslav for Perkins and Lamb

raferfenix · Post #353 » by **raferfenix** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:36 pm

wichmae wrote:
raferfenix wrote:I don't really understand the time crunch to trade Ersan.

Do we think he won't turn it on for the second half of the year and his value will decrease significantly, or have enough teams grown wise to that pattern and his value is about where it should be?

Or should we be bracing for a desperate win-now kind of trade?

Time crunch isn't us IMO. It's interest from the rest of NBA.

Hopefully that is the case, and this kind of league interest works out in our best interests!

what do we think: should we be petrified that Hammonds is trading Ersan in some awful deal, or hopeful that the league is valuing him appropriately and we'll be picking up a solid non-win-now piece or two?

CanadaBucks · Post #354 » by **CanadaBucks** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:43 pm

ampd wrote:
randy84 wrote:That's because no one wanted to trade them when they had value. They waited until that were injured or sucked. Just like they are doing with Sanders and Ersan. Wash, rinse, repeat.

One of the things I absolutely can forgive our front office for is when we have a 23 year old playing at a DPOY level, their first thought isn't that they better get him off the team as fast as possible.

I don't get that either, sell high is a great concept but that should only be for players you don't belive are in the future plans.

CanadaBucks · Post #355 » by **CanadaBucks** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:54 pm

bizarro wrote:
StikWitEM wrote:
breakchains wrote:This may have been put out there already, maybe even by me, but what do people think of Sanders + Ersan for Schroder + 1st? I would think that would appeal to Atlanta, who was rumored to have interest in Asik.

If the 1st is the one from Brooklyn and it ends up staying in the top 7 range then I'd definitely do it.

Why would Atlanta? That would be a serious logjam for them...If Hammond were managing Atlanta this would be a deal worth pursuing. There's no way Ferry does this, imho.

EDIT: Also, factor in Teague's horrendous last month and I don't think Atlanta wants to part with a fairly promising young PG prospect.

Last 12 games Teague 152-144 .362 FG% (7-26 3s) with 80 assists and 38 turnovers.

Badgerlander · Post #356 » by **Badgerlander** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:57 pm

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/ ... big-reveal

Tankers coming into focus
Many lottery-contending teams likely to soon reveal their hands on intentions
Updated: December 16, 2013, 10:28 AM ET
By Chad Ford | ESPN Insider

1. Milwaukee Bucks | Status: Tanking? | Record: 5-19 (past week: 1-3)

The Bucks have been in the "trying" category all season, but there are signals that they are finally embracing the inevitable. Not only is Larry Drew finally giving big minutes to his young players, like John Henson and Giannis Antetokounmpo, but the Bucks have been steadfastly rejecting trade offers (for players like Rudy Gay and Omer Asik) that would make them better now.

It's looking clearer that management may finally have owner Herb Kohl on board with the idea that one bad year could lead to many, many good ones.

(Last week: 1 )

msiris · Post #357 » by **msiris** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:00 pm

DocHoliday wrote:http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10144499/tank-rank-waiting-big-reveal

Tankers coming into focus
Many lottery-contending teams likely to soon reveal their hands on intentions
Updated: December 16, 2013, 10:28 AM ET
By Chad Ford | ESPN Insider

1. Milwaukee Bucks | Status: Tanking? | Record: 5-19 (past week: 1-3)

The Bucks have been in the "trying" category all season, but there are signals that they are finally embracing the inevitable. Not only is Larry Drew finally giving big minutes to his young players, like John Henson and Giannis Antetokounmpo, but the Bucks have been steadfastly rejecting trade offers (for players like Rudy Gay and Omer Asik) that would make them better now.

It's looking clearer that management may finally have owner Herb Kohl on board with the idea that one bad year could lead to many, many good ones.

(Last week: 1 )

They should be looking to make trades for picks and young upside guys.

raferfenix · Post #358 » by **raferfenix** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:41 pm

Please let Chad Ford be right, huge news if so.

An Ersan trade would tell us a lot about whether we are really aboard the tank.

ConoverBucks · Post #359 » by **ConoverBucks** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:21 pm

Just saw this:

ESPN @NBARumorCentral
Looking at potential suitors for Pau Gasol: Why Milwaukee is a team that, despite its record, could make sense. es.pn/1heUdy8
11 minutes ago

I sure hope this doesn't happen. I can't imagine they'd be interested seeing as they already turned down deals for Gay and Asik.

CanadaBucks · Post #360 » by **CanadaBucks** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:31 pm

Almost-A-Yooper wrote:Just saw this:

ESPN @NBARumorCentral
Looking at potential suitors for Pau Gasol: Why Milwaukee is a team that, despite its record, could make sense. es.pn/1heUdy8
11 minutes ago

I sure hope this doesn't happen. I can't imagine they'd be interested seeing as they already turned down deals for Gay and Asik.

I think LA is dreaming if they get anything of value for Pau, unless Charlotte wants to go all-in.