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Is Kyrie a part of the solution or the problem?

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Re: Is Kyrie a part of the solution or the problem? 

Post#21 » by TheOUTLAW » Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:03 pm

It's amusing that nobody says a word when the Cavs win and Kyrie puts up 37 and 11 a couple games ago. Heck, even Fart has decided that Kyrie is the devil and it's not Waiters.
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Re: Is Kyrie a part of the solution or the problem? 

Post#22 » by Dupp » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:00 am

I'm kind of with fart on this one. Not that i think kyries the devil but he is playing dumb basketball way too often.
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Re: Is Kyrie a part of the solution or the problem? 

Post#23 » by tidho » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:34 pm

ThirdEyeSharp wrote:...We need to see more P&R in this offense, I have no idea why Bennett just shoots 3's instead of working the P&R. It kills me.

He's sitting on the arc because he's being told to sit on the arc.

You mentioned in the 3pt shooter thread that we need to run more plays for the shooters. We don't seem to run plays for anyone - including Bennett. If we're not specifically feeding Bynum it seems like everyone spends way too much time playing 'react to Kyrie's dribble penetration' when we're in the half court.
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Re: Is Kyrie a part of the solution or the problem? 

Post#24 » by Niko23 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:41 pm

We dont run plays for anyone in the post except for Bynum who is hit or miss. They need to give Bennett the ball on the block when he is in the game at SF. He could make a living in the post on those guys. Instead we do the 3 man weave at half court like the freaking Harlem Globe Trotters
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Re: Is Kyrie a part of the solution or the problem? 

Post#25 » by TheOUTLAW » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:58 am

Kyrie wins POW I am guessing that it would have gone unacknowledged
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Re: Is Kyrie a part of the solution or the problem? 

Post#26 » by JonFromVA » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:01 pm

We know Kyrie can score, but he's been inconsistent this season at it. Heck, even in his past 4 games he's shot 5 of 15 in one, and 6 for 16 in another; but this isn't even about his scoring. It's about whether he's going to learn to to run the team and raise the level of play of his teammates.

His assists per 36 has actually dropped the past 3 seasons.
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Re: Is Kyrie a part of the solution or the problem? 

Post#27 » by Boarder Patrol » Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:05 am

JonFromVA wrote:We know Kyrie can score, but he's been inconsistent this season at it. Heck, even in his past 4 games he's shot 5 of 15 in one, and 6 for 16 in another; but this isn't even about his scoring. It's about whether he's going to learn to to run the team and raise the level of play of his teammates.

His assists per 36 has actually dropped the past 3 seasons.


He's an undersized two, really. Just gets a decent amount of assists as a result of being so ball dominant. I think he has potential as a two, playing next to a veteran PG, but as of now I don't really see what Kyrie does as being conducive to winning basketball at all. He's a net positive, but not much of one and certainly not on the level of any other all stars.
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Re: Is Kyrie a part of the solution or the problem? 

Post#28 » by lucky777s » Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:03 pm

He has to either learn how to be a true PG that creates easy points for others, or CLE has to surround him with the perfect role players like PHI did with Iverson and just let him do his thing.

As much as I liked the pick up of Jack as a backup he is absolutely the worst role model for a young PG. Jack is a guy who puts his head down and charges into the lane to score - makes up his mind right away that he is shooting.

Losing most of his one college year probably hurt Kyrie a lot in terms of learning the PG position.
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Re: Is Kyrie a part of the solution or the problem? 

Post#29 » by boknoy » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:03 am

with stories like this, Anthony Bennette and now Bynum, Dellavedova's will be the future of the team?
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Post#30 » by Ziggy Stardust » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:08 am

boknoy wrote:with stories like this, Anthony Bennette and now Bynum, Dellavedova's will be the future of the team?

Huh?
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Re: Is Kyrie a part of the solution or the problem? 

Post#31 » by TheOUTLAW » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:25 am

I think he's talking about that story about Bennett being the worst #1 in the last 20 yrs.
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