Rumor: Sac preparing trade package for Rondo

LobCityRondo2KG · Post #1 » by **LobCityRondo2KG** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:25 pm

The Sacramento Kings are reportedly preparing a package for Boston Celtics All-Star point guard Rajon Rondo, a reliable league source disclosed on Thursday.

After trading for Derrick Williams and the Rudy Gay this season, the Kings continue to be aggressive on the trading front, but this time they are looking to acquire the reigning assists champion.

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The Celtics front office stressed that they have no intention trading away Rondo, who is still rehabilitating from an ACL injury. However, the Kings are willing to trade away their young stars and draft picks for a shot at landing the prolific floor general.

According to NBA Buzz, the Kings are ready to send third-year point guard Isiah Thomas, rookie shooting guard Ben McLemore, shooting guard Marcos Thornton, power forward Jason Thompson, and two future first-round picks to the Celtics for Rondo.

Spearheaded by a new ownership, the Kings envision a formidable starting lineup consists of Rondo, Gay, Williams and center Demarcus Cousins. Sacramento has not appeared in the postseason since the 2005-2006 season, the last year of Rick Adelman as a coach. However, the efforts being put into by the current ownership only showed the Kings' intention to contend for a playoff spot after several years of futility.

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Bill Simons' Trade Proposal

Even before this trade rumours broke out, hardcore Celtics fan and ESPN NBA analyst Bill Simmons already predicted the Kings will be trying to nab Rondo via trade this season. Here's Simmons' version of Kings-Celtics deal:

"The Celtics give up Rondo, Gerald Wallace and MarShon Brooks in exchange for the expiring contracts of John Salmons, Patrick Patterson, Jimmer Fredette and Greivis Vasquez, as well as rookie Ben McLemore," via Bleacher Sports.

Salmons, Patterson and Vasques were already traded to the Raptors as part of the Rudy Gay deal. Nevertheless, the Kings still have the assets to make this blockbuster trade, knowing the Celtics are after the draft picks.

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MarShon Brooks, who was one of several personnel traded by the Brooklyn Nets to make last summer's blockbuster deal work, could be moved again as he struggled to find solid minutes under head coach Brad Stevens.

So far, the Celtics have remained focused on having Rondo back in January before assessing if he's tradable or not. Boston is surprisingly in the playoff mix because of the outstanding play of Jordan Crawford, Avery Bradley and Jeff Green. For now, stay tuned for another stunning trade development.

http://ca.ibtimes.com/articles/53035...ews-rumors.htm

Bos: Rondo, Gerald Wallace
for
Sac: Thomas, JT, Marcus Thorton, Mclemore 2 future 1sts

Not a bad deal.. We get rid of Wallace and pick up some nice players, prospects and more assets..

Thoughts?

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CeltsfanSinceBirth · Post #2 » by **CeltsfanSinceBirth** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:29 pm

How's Mclemore? Haven't watched him play yet. He doesn't seem like a guy we can build around. The 2 first round picks sound tempting though.

Honestly, with all the talk of Rondo getting along with Stevens, I don't think I want to trade Rondo at this point.

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #3 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:35 pm

I doubt Ainge wants to trade Rondo for non Stars. The package is actually really good, McLemore will be a stud soon but it would only increase our guard number to 54 and our PF to 37. lol the picks are tempting but Rondo + Cousins is enough to make both be in the 15-20 range at best.

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Pacino62 · Post #4 » by **Pacino62** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:41 pm

I am totally against trading Rondo.

With that said, that's as good of a coupe as you would get for him. Wow!

I still say, why trade one of the best players in the game, when you ultimately need 2 or 3 of them?

But....man...that is an enticing offer.

FlatearthZorro · Post #5 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:44 pm

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:I doubt Ainge wants to trade Rondo for non Stars. The package is actually really good, McLemore will be a stud soon but it would only increase our guard number to 54 and our PF to 37. lol the picks are tempting but Rondo + Cousins is enough to make both be in the 15-20 range at best.

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Well, if they give us their pick from this year(unprotected), I believe this year's pick will be top 10 regardless of how Rondo plays, simply because the West is too good and Rondo will play limited minutes for some time. Of course if you trade for McLemore u ship out Bradley asap for a rookie big with some upside... and start McLemore who was the talent/potential to be an All-Star from what I've seen from him.

LobCityRondo2KG · Post #6 » by **LobCityRondo2KG** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:49 pm

Boston34Bg wrote:
BRUNiNHO91 wrote:I doubt Ainge wants to trade Rondo for non Stars. The package is actually really good, McLemore will be a stud soon but it would only increase our guard number to 54 and our PF to 37. lol the picks are tempting but Rondo + Cousins is enough to make both be in the 15-20 range at best.

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Well, if they give us their pick from this year(unprotected), I believe this year's pick will be top 10 regardless of how Rondo plays, simply because the West is too good and Rondo will play limited minutes for some time. Of course if you trade for McLemore u ship out Bradley asap for a rookie big with some upside... and start McLemore who was the talent/potential to be an All-Star from what I've seen from him.

Believe they owe a pick to the Cavs so we wont get a pick for a couple years

KGboss · Post #7 » by **KGboss** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:05 pm

I would say no, Spare parts and picks for Rondo is not how I would want a trade for him to go down.

Mcelmore is the only intriguing prospect I would look for in that scenario, and thats still nothing to write home about.

Also, if the trade for Asik happens, I see no reason why Boston gives up Rondo at all.

Rondo/Bradley/Green/Sully/Asik would be the third best team in the east right now.

calamity · Post #8 » by **calamity** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:07 pm

the source is far from legit and just seems to be a spin off Simmons idea. Plus I highly doubt SAC will take on Wallace onerous contract (they just got rid of Salmons because they don't want vets like that going forward) plus give up picks for a likely year rental of Rondo. Also I wouln't want to touch JT and his contract if I am the Celtics.

Gomes3PC · Post #9 » by **Gomes3PC** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:20 pm

Sign me up. Thomas has been putting up MONSTER numbers on great efficiency, McLemore is a potential star at SG, Thompson is useful and not overpaid and even with Rondo I doubt the Kings go anywhere, resulting in two really good 1st round picks.

Oh, AND you get rid of Gerald Wallace's contract? YUP.

BillessuR6 · Post #10 » by **BillessuR6** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:29 pm

I would do the trade on draft day if SAC has a top 3 pick (Cavs get SAC pick if it is out of the top 12 this year so that is not happening).

I would definitely trade Rondo for Embid, Parker or Wiggins...

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Gomes3PC · Post #11 » by **Gomes3PC** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:30 pm

Realistically, this trade also works if you swap Wallace out for either Bass or Lee. Lee likely makes most sense since if you keep him, the C's would have a massive SG logjam between McLemore, Lee, Thornton and Bradley.

humblebum · Post #12 » by **humblebum** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:32 pm

Yeah I've not really been in on trading Rondo (lately) but this deal is pretty tempting.

Getting rid of Wallace is huge and I like Thomas III. McLemore is intriguing and you add more picks plus Thompson who is a decent player.

That increased flexibility and influx of assets gives Ainge a lot of room to make trades for superstars and as good as Rondo can be at times I think you can live with Thomas III/Craw and AB/McLemore in the backcourt.

With Stevens doing so well early, Ainge is in a position to take some risks. If Stevens is this development guru who can turn lemons into lemonade (Crawford, Lee, Bass) then this type of deal becomes a bit more palatable.

Celts17Pride · Post #13 » by **Celts17Pride** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:46 pm

Ainge has pretty much said that if you don't see another star coming back in a trade for Rondo then it's pretty much a made up rumor. Ainge is not trading Rondo unless he gets a star back i.e. Rondo for Chris Paul, Rondo for S. Curry. Ainge could change his mind but that is what he said when it was reported the Knicks were interested.

Afam · Post #14 » by **Afam** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:05 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Ainge has pretty much said that if you don't see another star coming back in a trade for Rondo then it's pretty much a made up rumor. Ainge is not trading Rondo unless he gets a star back i.e. Rondo for Chris Paul, Rondo for S. Curry. Ainge could change his mind but that is what he said when it was reported the Knicks were interested.

You're not getting a superstar in return for Rajon Rondo. Neither are we going to get equal value for him. Players like Westbrook, Chris Paul, Stephen Curry etc are not happening so let's end all that talk. I don't even think we would get Drummond for Rondo.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #15 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:06 pm

That's really not a great package.. Thornton is filler, Thompson is a role player.. Thomas is short and does basically one thing at a high level. So the real value is in Mclemore and the picks.. Like someone else said, might be worth it on draft night..

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Datruth345 · Post #16 » by **Datruth345** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:13 pm

usually when you hear of things like this they are already dead

Gomes3PC · Post #17 » by **Gomes3PC** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:16 pm

andy582 wrote:That's really not a great package.. Thornton is filler, Thompson is a role player.. Thomas is short and does basically one thing at a high level. So the real value is in Mclemore and the picks.. Like someone else said, might be worth it on draft night..

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Thomas does one thing at a high level - that is putting the basketball in the hoop. From anywhere on the court. That's pretty much the most important thing you can do in the NBA. He's also improved his assist rate up to a very respectable level (33% of possessions, 6.5 per 36 minutes), while keeping his turnovers mostly in check.

Being a smurf at PG is not a huge issue defensively; if you're going to be undersized at any position, PG is easily the easiest to overcome. He's made good strides defensively this year and is totally capable, though certainly not a lockdown guy.

Getting a solid starter in Thomas, a top 5 pick in McLemore, two unprotected picks from a crummy team, as well as two guys who can be role players is a really nice haul for Rondo.

Look at what the Magic got for Dwight: Afflalo (similar to Thomas - solid starter at the time), Al Harrington (filler, like Thornton), Vucevic/Harkless (two lotto picks, similar to McLemore) and three 1sts (consider it premium for grabbing an elite guy like Howard).

Afam · Post #18 » by **Afam** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:18 pm

Datruth345 wrote:usually when you hear of things like this they are already dead

Not always true. The nets deal was supposedly dead and look at what happened.

Afam · Post #19 » by **Afam** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:23 pm

Gomes3PC wrote:
andy582 wrote:That's really not a great package.. Thornton is filler, Thompson is a role player.. Thomas is short and does basically one thing at a high level. So the real value is in Mclemore and the picks.. Like someone else said, might be worth it on draft night..

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Thomas does one thing at a high level - that is putting the basketball in the hoop. From anywhere on the court. That's pretty much the most important thing you can do in the NBA. He's also improved his assist rate up to a very respectable level (33% of possessions, 6.5 per 36 minutes), while keeping his turnovers mostly in check.

Being a smurf at PG is not a huge issue defensively; if you're going to be undersized at any position, PG is easily the easiest to overcome. He's made good strides defensively this year and is totally capable, though certainly not a lockdown guy.

Getting a solid starter in Thomas, a top 5 pick in McLemore, two unprotected picks from a crummy team, as well as two guys who can be role players is a really nice haul for Rondo.

Look at what the Magic got for Dwight: Afflalo (similar to Thomas - solid starter at the time), Al Harrington (filler, like Thornton), Vucevic/Harkless (two lotto picks, similar to McLemore) and three 1sts (consider it premium for grabbing an elite guy like Howard).

Exactly. Some people are expecting a superstar for Rondo. I'm just trying to let them down easy so they are not disappointed when the trade return for rondo is low. Dwight Howard wasn't even traded for superstars, so what makes anyone think that rondo would net us one. Some of my fellow Celtics fens overrate Rondo.

15th overall · Post #20 » by **15th overall** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:25 pm

The international business times is breaking NBA rumors now? Link's not working by the way.

While that's a good haul for Rondo, I think we're set with picks at this point. Unless we've got another trade setup, I'd have to pass. Not loving any route that makes for an even longer rebuild.