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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#3381 » by god shammgod » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:37 pm

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[GR] wrote:If Pablo gets hurt, the deal will be done that night

not with Udrih playing well...



Udrih is a time bomb waiting to go off if given an expanded role.


he's a time bomb in those limited minutes. he might come in and look good for a minute or two and all of a sudden it goes haywire.
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#3382 » by bklynstoops » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:41 pm

it's actually kinda funny watching the Raptors move up the Division standings. .5 game out of first. :lol:
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#3383 » by ctorres » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:48 pm

In the East, we're destined to end up anywhere from the 3rd to 6th seed, and likely make it to the 2nd round even without homecourt advantage. Would we actually have more of a legitimate shot at beating the Heat or Pacers in the 2nd round with Lowry on the team?

I would do the Lowry trade as reported (Felton, Metta, 2018 1st) if deep down we felt Lowry is that missing piece. I just don't see it though.

I make a trade like that for Goran Dragic, though with him and Bledsoe playing awesome together, I think the Suns will keep both. For Lowry, I don't know if he's worth that.
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#3384 » by Brooklyn_Yards » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:51 pm

god shammgod wrote:
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greenhughes wrote:not with Udrih playing well...



Udrih is a time bomb waiting to go off if given an expanded role.


he's a time bomb in those limited minutes. he might come in and look good for a minute or two and all of a sudden it goes haywire.

Exactly Udrih outside of that Pacers game has been terrible for us, much like Stat teams always seem to go on runs when they're in. Udrih's defense is putrid.
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#3385 » by sol537 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:56 pm

Perhaps Mike Conley might become available if the Grizz continue to struggle...
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Post#3386 » by Nyk4lyfe » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:27 pm

sol537 wrote:Perhaps Mike Conley might become available if the Grizz continue to struggle...


wouldn't that be something :pray:
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Post#3387 » by Nyk4lyfe » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:27 pm

Extend and trades are not allowed in the new CBA, correct?
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Post#3388 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:28 pm

Nyk4lyfe wrote:Extend and trades are not allowed in the new CBA, correct?
correct

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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#3389 » by ctorres » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:35 pm

Brooklyn_Yards wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
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Udrih is a time bomb waiting to go off if given an expanded role.


he's a time bomb in those limited minutes. he might come in and look good for a minute or two and all of a sudden it goes haywire.

Exactly Udrih outside of that Pacers game has been terrible for us, much like Stat teams always seem to go on runs when they're in. Udrih's defense is putrid.


Maybe he needs consistent minutes to get into a rhythm defensively? He played well defensively for the Bucks.
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Post#3390 » by sol537 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:44 pm

Along with Conley, perhaps we can explore a trade for Sessions or Ridnour or even Barea. Or perhaps, we can try to make a play for a 2nd or 3rd year PG who is not working out in his current situation. Anyone know of any out there? (PG's sometimes take years to develop or sometimes need a change of team to play better)
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#3391 » by don't panac » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:47 pm

greenhughes wrote:
[GR] wrote:If Pablo gets hurt, the deal will be done that night

not with Udrih playing well...

i must have missed that possession.....
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#3392 » by Brooklyn_Yards » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:48 pm

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Nyk4lyfe wrote:Extend and trades are not allowed in the new CBA, correct?
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Hmmm I thought you could but you'd have to be under the cap or something similar.
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#3393 » by Brooklyn_Yards » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:51 pm

ctorres wrote:
Maybe he needs consistent minutes to get into a rhythm defensively? He played well defensively for the Bucks.

:lol: ... Sorry, no he didn't I watched him play live quite a few times Udrih has his moments but he's trash. And he's older now, a lot of older players don't learn as many new things defensively as they do offensively.
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#3394 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:57 pm

Brooklyn_Yards wrote:
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Nyk4lyfe wrote:Extend and trades are not allowed in the new CBA, correct?
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Hmmm I thought you could but you'd have to be under the cap or something similar.
I thought they eliminated it all together, could be wrong.

Who's done one since the new cba?

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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#3395 » by mpharris36 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:04 pm

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[GR] wrote:If Pablo gets hurt, the deal will be done that night

not with Udrih playing well...


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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#3396 » by Greenie » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:09 pm

ya'll need to let me live...
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#3397 » by god shammgod » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:22 pm

off topic but where's the game thread ?
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#3398 » by Sark » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:30 pm

Knicks just need to fire their coach. No need for personnel changes yet. Firing the coach will immediately see an improvement in both JR and Shumpert, who have both pretty much quit on Woodson.
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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#3399 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:35 pm

re: Extend and Trade (It's still alive)

Similar to a sign-and-trade arrangement (see question number 89), a team may sign an eligible player to an extension (see question number 58) and immediately trade him to another team. Such an "extend-and-trade" is limited to three seasons, which include any seasons remaining on the player's current contract1. The salary in the first season of the extension can have a 4.5% raise over the last season of the existing contract, and subsequent raises are limited to 4.5% of the salary in the first season of the extension.

A player cannot be traded in an extend-and-trade after the season (for example, on draft day) in the last season of his contract, or in any season that might be the last season due to an option or ETO.

Since an extend-and-trade has greater limits than a regular extension (three seasons and 4.5% raises vs. four seasons and 7.5% raises), the rules prevent teams from circumventing these limits by extending and trading the player in separate transactions. If a team extends a player beyond the limits of an extend-and-trade (for example, if they sign a player to a four-year extension), they can't trade the player for six months. Conversely, a team cannot extend a player it receives in trade for six months, if the extension exceeds the limits of an extend-and-trade1.

Extend-and-trade transactions are rare. To date they have only been used for Kevin Garnett (traded from Minnesota to Boston in 2007) and Carmelo Anthony (traded from Denver to New York in 2011).

A rookie scale contract (see question number 48) can be extended and traded in an extend-and-trade transaction, although there is no benefit to doing so. A rookie scale extension can be signed immediately after the player is traded (such as with James Harden's trade to the Rockets in 2012), and a rookie scale extension (see question number 58) can be much larger than the extension allowed through an extend-and-trade.


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Re: Raps trying to trade us Lowry... 

Post#3400 » by Signature NYK » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:58 pm

god shammgod wrote:off topic but where's the game thread ?


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