Official Trade Thread - Part XXV

Wizardspride · Post #981 » by **Wizardspride** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:53 am

mhd wrote:Some Porter trade ideas:

Porter+Maynor+Ves+Seraphin for Amir Johnson+Lowry
Porter+Ves for Illyasova
Porter for Frye+our pick back
Porter+Ves+Seraphin for Thad Young+Wroten

Forget Wroten. Give me Hollis Thompson....and I'd consider it.

Baddy Chuck · Post #982 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:39 am

mhd wrote:Some Porter trade ideas:

Porter+Maynor+Ves+Seraphin for Amir Johnson+Lowry
Porter+Ves for Illyasova
Porter for Frye+our pick back
Porter+Ves+Seraphin for Thad Young+Wroten

I'd do ANY of these trades.

Really are that down on Porter this early?

stevemcqueen1 · Post #983 » by **stevemcqueen1** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:59 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
mhd wrote:Some Porter trade ideas:

Porter+Maynor+Ves+Seraphin for Amir Johnson+Lowry
Porter+Ves for Illyasova
Porter for Frye+our pick back
Porter+Ves+Seraphin for Thad Young+Wroten

I'd do ANY of these trades.

Really are that down on Porter this early?

He is. But he's hated on Porter since day one. Most of us are not.

reapaman · Post #984 » by **reapaman** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:07 pm

How about Enes Kanter for Otto Porter. I think it would balance both the Jazz and Wizards out for the future.

GeeWiz · Post #985 » by **GeeWiz** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:09 pm

reapaman wrote:How about Enes Kanter for Otto Porter. I think it would balance both the Jazz and Wizards out for the future.

I would do it, but the Jazz wouldn't.

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mhd · Post #986 » by **mhd** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:30 am

How about this Kanter trade:

Wiz trade Porter+Gortat for Perkins+Kanter
OKC trades Lamb+Perkins for Gortat+Burks
Jazz trade Burks+Kanter for Porter+Lamb

Jazz fill out their wings for the future in getting Porter, Lamb, to go along with Haywood. Parker can play PF in the pros, they could draft Embied to play center, or draft Randle to play PF. Only Wiggins could be a duplicate, but that is a nice problem to have. They also avoid paying Kanter a year sooner as Lamb has one more year on his rookie deal, while Porter has two.

OKC goes for the title now.

We get Kanter to be the young big to pair with Wall & Beal. Perkins' sucks, but he expires next year, and we avoid extending Gortat.

long suffrin' boulez fan · Post #987 » by **long suffrin' boulez fan** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:57 am

mhd wrote:How about this Kanter trade:

Wiz trade Porter+Gortat for Perkins+Kanter
OKC trades Lamb+Perkins for Gortat+Burks
Jazz trade Burks+Kanter for Porter+Lamb

Jazz fill out their wings for the future in getting Porter, Lamb, to go along with Haywood. Parker can play PF in the pros, they could draft Embied to play center, or draft Randle to play PF. Only Wiggins could be a duplicate, but that is a nice problem to have. They also avoid paying Kanter a year sooner as Lamb has one more year on his rookie deal, while Porter has two.

OKC goes for the title now.

We get Kanter to be the young big to pair with Wall & Beal. Perkins' sucks, but he expires next year, and we avoid extending Gortat.

Huh? OKC gives up the worst two players in the trade and get the best two

queridiculo · Post #988 » by **queridiculo** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:07 am

Kanter can't play, and Perkins brings a broken down body, along with a poor attitude, and no offensive basketball skills to speak off.

I can't think of any reason why the Wizards would even contemplate that proposal.

TGW · Post #989 » by **TGW** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:17 am

Kanter can absolutely play, what Kanter are you referring to?

mhd · Post #990 » by **mhd** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:07 am

Kanter probably has the worst coach in the NBA that he plays for in Corbin. He'd be a great fit for Wall. Plus, he's young and an absolute bull down low.

I'd easily trade Porter+ for Kanter, but I doubt Utah does it. I wonder if they would consider trading him though.

queridiculo · Post #991 » by **queridiculo** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:13 am

TGW wrote:Kanter can absolutely play, what Kanter are you referring to?

Kanter makes Jamison look an NBA All-Defensive first teamer.

Doesn't play defense, doesn't rebound, what's the point?

hands11 · Post #992 » by **hands11** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:15 am

Wizardspride wrote:
mhd wrote:Some Porter trade ideas:

Porter+Maynor+Ves+Seraphin for Amir Johnson+Lowry
Porter+Ves for Illyasova
Porter for Frye+our pick back
Porter+Ves+Seraphin for Thad Young+Wroten

Forget Wroten. Give me Hollis Thompson....and I'd consider it.

Forget Illyasova also. I would rather keep Otto and see what he can do. Personally, I would be shocked to see Otto moved so soon.

But can we get Bledsoe ? Wish we would have drafted him. Picked one pick after KS. I liked him in college. Actually looked to me to be the more talented between he and Wall when I watched KU games. Like he driving and shooting. I thought taking them both would have been a good transition for both to the NBA. Glad he is making it on his own though.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4238/eric-bledsoe

To me, everything is on the table for the right price.

But they probably shouldn't move Wall right now. His value should keep going up. He will get better.

hands11 · Post #993 » by **hands11** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:18 am

queridiculo wrote:
TGW wrote:Kanter can absolutely play, what Kanter are you referring to?

Kanter makes Jamison look an NBA All-Defensive first teamer.

Doesn't play defense, doesn't rebound, what's the point?

Boogie was just using him the other night.

reapaman · Post #994 » by **reapaman** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:42 am

mhd wrote:Kanter probably has the worst coach in the NBA that he plays for in Corbin. He'd be a great fit for Wall. Plus, he's young and an absolute bull down low.

I'd easily trade Porter+ for Kanter, but I doubt Utah does it. I wonder if they would consider trading him though.

Even the most resistant Jazz fans have stopped blaming Corbin for Kanter. He deserves to be benched with limited minutes.

He is finally being exposed for what he was all along which was a Michael Beasley/Andrea Bargnani fusion. He doesn't do anything other than score a bunch of meaningless points outside the flow of the offense and give up twice that on the defensive end. You guys can have him, I'll gladly take Porter. And yes the Jazz are considering trading him.

GeeWiz · Post #995 » by **GeeWiz** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:14 pm

reapaman wrote:
mhd wrote:Kanter probably has the worst coach in the NBA that he plays for in Corbin. He'd be a great fit for Wall. Plus, he's young and an absolute bull down low.

I'd easily trade Porter+ for Kanter, but I doubt Utah does it. I wonder if they would consider trading him though.

Even the most resistant Jazz fans have stopped blaming Corbin for Kanter. He deserves to be benched with limited minutes.

He is finally being exposed for what he was all along which was a Michael Beasley/Andrea Bargnani fusion. He doesn't do anything other than score a bunch of meaningless points outside the flow of the offense and give up twice that on the defensive end. You guys can have him, I'll gladly take Porter. And yes the Jazz are considering trading him.

In that case, how does Eric Maynor sound for Kanter? (Teehee)

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Post #996 » by **nate33** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:48 pm

reapaman wrote:
mhd wrote:Kanter probably has the worst coach in the NBA that he plays for in Corbin. He'd be a great fit for Wall. Plus, he's young and an absolute bull down low.

I'd easily trade Porter+ for Kanter, but I doubt Utah does it. I wonder if they would consider trading him though.

Even the most resistant Jazz fans have stopped blaming Corbin for Kanter. He deserves to be benched with limited minutes.

He is finally being exposed for what he was all along which was a Michael Beasley/Andrea Bargnani fusion. He doesn't do anything other than score a bunch of meaningless points outside the flow of the offense and give up twice that on the defensive end. You guys can have him, I'll gladly take Porter. And yes the Jazz are considering trading him.

If that's the case, then it sounds like Kanter will be obtainable in free agency in 2015. No sense in giving up Porter.

dckingsfan · Post #997 » by **dckingsfan** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:06 pm

nate33 wrote:
reapaman wrote:
mhd wrote:Kanter probably has the worst coach in the NBA that he plays for in Corbin. He'd be a great fit for Wall. Plus, he's young and an absolute bull down low.

I'd easily trade Porter+ for Kanter, but I doubt Utah does it. I wonder if they would consider trading him though.

Even the most resistant Jazz fans have stopped blaming Corbin for Kanter. He deserves to be benched with limited minutes.

He is finally being exposed for what he was all along which was a Michael Beasley/Andrea Bargnani fusion. He doesn't do anything other than score a bunch of meaningless points outside the flow of the offense and give up twice that on the defensive end. You guys can have him, I'll gladly take Porter. And yes the Jazz are considering trading him.

If that's the case, then it sounds like Kanter will be obtainable in free agency in 2015. No sense in giving up Porter.

He definitely hasn't been the same since the surgery... everything is down, especially his DRB%.

dckingsfan · Post #998 » by **dckingsfan** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:49 pm

I have been trying to figure out if we could trade Chris Kaman for Seraphin. I don't think there is a way to do that is there?

If you haven't given up on Seraphin, then it is a bad idea. I just think Kaman could come in and fill in a hole this year.

mhd · Post #999 » by **mhd** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:04 am

DNP-CD for Otto. I've said it since day 1. When Beal, Webster, and Ariza are all healthy, there simply is no PT for Porter. Add to that, that we also have a young wing in Rice to develop, then it makes great sense to deal Porter for some help at the big position. If Utah would do it, I'd easily trade Porter for Kanter (one of their fans said they'd do it in an instant).

Nivek · Post #1000 » by **Nivek** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:10 am

dckingsfan wrote:I have been trying to figure out if we could trade Chris Kaman for Seraphin. I don't think there is a way to do that is there?

If you haven't given up on Seraphin, then it is a bad idea. I just think Kaman could come in and fill in a hole this year.

Kaman's not very good, but he would be an upgrade from Seraphin. Then again, so would some of the bigs in the D-League.