OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II

[mrknowitall215]

Bobcats Could Make Kidd-Gilchrist Available In Trade Talks

Am I the only person that comprehend the emphasized 'could' in this rumor? Based on the way that it's worded, it's only conjecture

I comprehend the conjecture that MKG COULD be traded. I've said weeks ago that based on the way Clifford uses MKG that he COULD be traded away which is why I said "Kinda saw this coming". And for the record, traditionally, you dont make it known that your willing to trade away a certain player unless you really dont mind trading away that specific player. I just asked why, is he now on the block, is it because he's perceived as injury prone, or because Clifford doesnt value what he brings to the team. I think it's clear that since Clifford came aboard, he wasnt impressed with MKG's game and that he's really done his best to limit his role on the team, at least offensively.

Based on the underlined quotables, I still don't think you comprehend what I mean by conjecture. It's not known if Cho is even considering or listening to trades for MKG

[ball teacher]

Like I said before, it's pretty much a non-story that's only being talked about because the only trade news lately involves the superstar known as Omer Asik. The pundits seem bored. I mean, the Thunder "could" make Westbrook available, doesn't mean they would.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using RealGM Forums mobile app

Westbrook is not available, but we know that MKG is, so it is a issue. When managemant leaks that a player "could" be available, it means they are open to hearing offers for him (solely) because theyre willing to part ways with the player for whatever reason.

[HornetJail]

Remember the BS rumor around draft time when we were reportedly looking to trade MKG so that we could select Otto Porter?

Yeah.

[ball teacher]

Am I the only person that comprehend the emphasized 'could' in this rumor? Based on the way that it's worded, it's only conjecture

I comprehend the conjecture that MKG COULD be traded. I've said weeks ago that based on the way Clifford uses MKG that he COULD be traded away which is why I said "Kinda saw this coming". And for the record, traditionally, you dont make it known that your willing to trade away a certain player unless you really dont mind trading away that specific player. I just asked why, is he now on the block, is it because he's perceived as injury prone, or because Clifford doesnt value what he brings to the team. I think it's clear that since Clifford came aboard, he wasnt impressed with MKG's game and that he's really done his best to limit his role on the team, at least offensively.

Based on the underlined quotables, I still don't think you comprehend what I mean by conjecture. It's not known if Cho is even considering or listening to trades for MKG

The only thing conjecture could be made of is who in the organisation decided they'd be willing to trade MKG. Teams dont let it be known players could be traded away when they have no intention of trading him. I think from what we've all seen of his minutes and reduced role on the team that this isn't some rumor with no basis in reality.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Like I said before, it's pretty much a non-story that's only being talked about because the only trade news lately involves the superstar known as Omer Asik. The pundits seem bored. I mean, the Thunder "could" make Westbrook available, doesn't mean they would.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using RealGM Forums mobile app

Westbrook is not available, but we know that MKG is, so it is a issue.

Because Chad Ford speculated it? Wasn't it only in a chat or something? I don't even think he put it into an article since it was only conjecture. Sheridan on the other hand ran with it, though I'm sure Ford is his source.

Even if it were a legit leak, we also heard this stuff at the draft. There's no way you can "know" MKG's available from a reporter's offhand comment.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using RealGM Forums mobile app

[BlackOutBuzz]

I comprehend the conjecture that MKG COULD be traded. I've said weeks ago that based on the way Clifford uses MKG that he COULD be traded away which is why I said "Kinda saw this coming". And for the record, traditionally, you dont make it known that your willing to trade away a certain player unless you really dont mind trading away that specific player. I just asked why, is he now on the block, is it because he's perceived as injury prone, or because Clifford doesnt value what he brings to the team. I think it's clear that since Clifford came aboard, he wasnt impressed with MKG's game and that he's really done his best to limit his role on the team, at least offensively.

Based on the underlined quotables, I still don't think you comprehend what I mean by conjecture. It's not known if Cho is even considering or listening to trades for MKG

This isn't some rumor with no basis in reality.

It kinda is...

And teams put out smokescreens all the time. I'm fairly convinced the Porter thing was done to encourage Washington to take him instead of trading back or something. Hell, for all we know Ford could be "hearing" this from an official of another team. It could be as simple as someone inquiring and us saying "for the right price," and then all of a sudden he's "on the block." Just look at Morey leaking they have offers on the table involving draft picks, and then it came up that we turned down his insane offer.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using RealGM Forums mobile app

[ball teacher]

Based on the underlined quotables, I still don't think you comprehend what I mean by conjecture. It's not known if Cho is even considering or listening to trades for MKG

This isn't some rumor with no basis in reality.

It kinda is...

And teams put out smokescreens all the time. I'm fairly convinced the Porter thing was done to encourage Washington to take him instead of trading back or something. Hell, for all we know Ford could be "hearing" this from an official of another team. It could be as simple as someone inquiring and us saying "for the right price," and then all of a sudden he's "on the block." Just look at Morey leaking they have offers on the table involving draft picks, and then it came up that we turned down his insane offer.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using RealGM Forums mobile app

I hope you're right that this has no basis in reality, but from the article that was originally, posted it stated MKG could be made available when he returns from injury. If this was from some other team, the article should've stated "it is rumored that MKG could be available". The fact that the article clearly says he could be available, and since this is something I already stated was inevitable due to the statements from the very beginning about MKG from this coach, all leads me to think this was a statement that was put out by the front office to gauge the level of interest in the guy. Using smokescreens in the draft is one thing, what would the motive be for a smokescreen at this point?

[MasterIchiro]

This isn't some rumor with no basis in reality.

It kinda is...

And teams put out smokescreens all the time. I'm fairly convinced the Porter thing was done to encourage Washington to take him instead of trading back or something. Hell, for all we know Ford could be "hearing" this from an official of another team. It could be as simple as someone inquiring and us saying "for the right price," and then all of a sudden he's "on the block." Just look at Morey leaking they have offers on the table involving draft picks, and then it came up that we turned down his insane offer.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using RealGM Forums mobile app

I hope you're right that this has no basis in reality, but from the article that was originally, posted it stated MKG could be made available when he returns from injury. If this was from some other team, the article should've stated "it is rumored that MKG could be available". The fact that the article clearly says he could be available, and since this is something I already stated was inevitable due to the statements from the very beginning about MKG from this coach, all leads me to think this was a statement that was put out by the front office to gauge the level of interest in the guy. Using smokescreens in the draft is one thing, what would the motive be for a smokescreen at this point?

Good question.

[mrknowitall215]

I don't understand the notion of the doubters that state that MKG is a bust or anything close to it, but act like Kawhi Leonard & Jimmy Butler are some kind of rising stars in this league. MKG is already putting up similar to better numbers than both of them, and he's every bit of 2-4 years younger

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 01&y2=2014

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 01&y2=2014

[JDR720]

I don't understand the notion of the doubters that state that MKG is a bust or anything close to it, but act like Kawhi Leonard & Jimmy Butler are some kind of rising stars in this league. MKG is already putting up similar to better numbers than both of them, and he's every bit of 2-4 years younger

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 01&y2=2014

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 01&y2=2014

it just blows my mind, they call him a bust because he isn't a scorer and was drafted #2, evidently if your not putting up 20ppg or making all-star teams your a bust

[catch20two]

I don't understand the notion of the doubters that state that MKG is a bust or anything close to it, but act like Kawhi Leonard & Jimmy Butler are some kind of rising stars in this league. MKG is already putting up similar to better numbers than both of them, and he's every bit of 2-4 years younger

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 01&y2=2014

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 01&y2=2014

It's beyond me. It's just people looking at things in a microwave state of mind as if MKG was supposed to come into the league averaging 20-5-5 like LeBron and Melo or something. Nobody from that draft class had that lofty of expectations except Anthony Davis to Tim Duncan. I believe MKG will be averaging at least 13 points by next season and will continually grow from there. You would've thought he was averaging 5 points on 30% shooting the way people criticize his offense in limited minutes. Iguodala didn't even average over 12 points until his 3rd year.

[JDR720]

If your gonna call him a bust dont do it because he is underachieving as a "#2" pick he couldn't do anything about getting drafted #2 overall, and calling him a bust because he "cant" shoot is also dumb, he is statistically our best midrange shooter this season

[catch20two]

If your gonna call him a bust dont do it because he is underachieving as a "#2" pick he couldn't do anything about getting drafted #2 overall, and calling him a bust because he "cant" shoot is also dumb, he is statistically our best midrange shooter this season

That's the thing. MKG isn't even a bad shooter. He just have a very awkward form.

[mrknowitall215]

I doubt that they would, but the very moment that Charlotte does trade MKG, the very same misanthropist that are calling him a 'bust', disappointment, or anything alike, will become revisionists that'll have a field day denigrating Michael Jordan for trading him away too early in his career

[JDR720]

I doubt that they would, but the very moment that Charlotte does trade MKG, the very same misanthropist that are calling him a 'bust', disappointment, or anything alike, will become revisionists that'll have a field day denigrating Michael Jordan for trading him away too early in his career

if they are dumb enough to trade him, i hope he gets a quadruple double his 1st game back in Charlotte goes flying into the crowd after a loose ball and knees MJ in the face

[JMAC3]

You would have to think we are seriously considering moving up the time table for MKG to return. I think once he gets his cast off we should give him a look. If he is a liability then sit him, but we literally have nothing else. Especially with Taylor probably out for a good time, if not the remainder of the season.

Even if its a limited MKG, he will go out there to just play defense, rebound, and score 5 points a night. It is better than what Tolliver and CDR would bring to the table. That or we need to think about dealing for a quality wing player, even if it is just somebody we could get for a second round pick.

I really do not want to make a deal if it means trading MKG. We need to bolster the SF position either way, because Taylor looks like he is gonna miss major time.

[mrknowitall215]

MKG is not going to score no 5 points a night just because he injured his off hand upon his return. He's going to hit the ground running when he's re-inserted into the lineup as if he never left. Charlotte doesn't need to make no wild trade, even with a 2nd rounder, just for a spare SF. Chris Douglas-Roberts is perfectly capable of filling the void that'll be left by Jeff Taylor if indeed his heel injury is as serious as season-ending

[lmcguir5]

MKG is not going to score no 5 points a night just because he injured his off hand upon his return. He's going to hit the ground running when he's re-inserted into the lineup as if he never left. Charlotte doesn't need to make no wild trade, even with a 2nd rounder, just for a spare SF. Chris Douglas-Roberts is perfectly capable of filling the void that'll be left by Jeff Taylor if indeed his heel injury is as serious as season-ending

I'm about to rename CDR the messiah the way you guys talk about him. He's not proven in any sense, you guys need to temper your expectations

[HornetJail]

MKG is not going to score no 5 points a night just because he injured his off hand upon his return. He's going to hit the ground running when he's re-inserted into the lineup as if he never left. Charlotte doesn't need to make no wild trade, even with a 2nd rounder, just for a spare SF. Chris Douglas-Roberts is perfectly capable of filling the void that'll be left by Jeff Taylor if indeed his heel injury is as serious as season-ending

I'm about to rename CDR the messiah the way you guys talk about him. He's not proven in any sense, you guys need to temper your expectations

I've watched him play and I really do think that he can be a solid role player. I'm actually quite surprised he hasn't been able to stick with a team. If it's true that he has extended his range, then I really want him to start over Tolliver.

[mrknowitall215]

MKG is not going to score no 5 points a night just because he injured his off hand upon his return. He's going to hit the ground running when he's re-inserted into the lineup as if he never left. Charlotte doesn't need to make no wild trade, even with a 2nd rounder, just for a spare SF. Chris Douglas-Roberts is perfectly capable of filling the void that'll be left by Jeff Taylor if indeed his heel injury is as serious as season-ending

I'm about to rename CDR the messiah the way you guys talk about him. He's not proven in any sense, you guys need to temper your expectations

CDR is no "messiah", but he is very much the player that most of you wanted out of Jeff Taylor, but could never quite get it consistently, only once out of every other 10 or so games. Let's just say, you won't have to keep saying "if" & "when" with CDR the way how you all did constantly with Taylor, because CDR is a productive player. He can shoot, attack the rim, dribble, defend, and etc. He's not a project