Omer Asik Trade - Updated link pg.109

[Valid]

what a buzz kill.. still think we need to be patient.. i still think something may go down maybe tomorrow. i think that is the last day they can acquire assets that are eligible to be moved by the TD.

Either that or Morey will gamble that he will get what he wants by the trade deadline

He isn't getting what he wants at the trade deadline. As a matter of fact, I'd be willing to bet he gets even less.

[Celtic Esquire]

Thank God DA wasn't willing to throw in a 2014 pick.

Houston overplayed their hand and I am glad they are stuck with Asik longer. He isn't even playing for them right now so good luck trying to increase his trade value from now until the trading deadline.

[ryaningf]

Deal always seemed too good to be true from the Cs perspective....people complaining that bass + lee + 1st rounder is too much for Asik, hey, I'm a homer too but let's be realistic Danny would have traded them 6 months ago if he could have found takers. Ridding ourselves of them is worth the cost of a pick and that's even before considering that we would have gotten Asik too, just a really sweetheart of a deal for the Cs so I'm not surprised to see HOU walk away.

Rockets going to be hard pressed to beat the deal Danny laid on the table though, unless an injury happens down the line that changes the dynamic and shifts the leverage back to Houston. The cost to chemistry could be huge going forward, but who knows maybe Howard gets hurt and they need him after all. Things can change in 2 months. What really backfired in a big way was the stupid self-imposed deadline, what a manufactured bunch of horse poop that was. Didn't create the market they thought it would and just dragged a disgruntled Asik thru more torment.

[No35]

**** you, fatboy. Go back to stuffing your face with doritos and wanking to harden's EFG in end of quarter heaves.

[KGboss]

Sounds like posturing to me. They arent done yet.

[sam_I_am]

Morey probably made this deadline deal scenario to placate Asik. They screwed him…. they know it….. they don't feel bad about it either because Howard is a prize catch. Still, they did honorably shopping Asik around. But why do they have to rush into a trade for guys they just want to trade away in 2 months. That part never made sense to me.

The Boston deal isn't so good that he has to pull trigger now. Maybe at trading deadline Celtics will be out of hunt but maybe they are still in playoff hunt and would be willing to give up more to get him.

[Valid]

Morey probably made this deadline deal scenario to placate Asik. They screwed him…. they know it….. they don't feel bad about it either because Howard is a prize catch. Still, they did honorably shopping Asik around. But why do they have to rush into a trade for guys they just want to trade away in 2 months. That part never made sense to me.

The Boston deal isn't so good that he has to pull trigger now. Maybe at trading deadline Celtics will be out of hunt but maybe they are still in playoff hunt and would be willing to give up more to get him.

The Celtics aren't going to give up more for Asik just because they are in the playoff hunt. It's not like we're a contender that is going to be one piece away from the title. This move would be for the next couple of years. If it doesn't benefit the C's for the future, Ainge won't do the deal.

[FeedReed]

this really sucks. people are actually valuing 2 role players and 1 draft pick over what the celtics need most? ugh. would've been a fantastic trade for the c's. if i was the rockets gm i wouldn't do it either unless it was a 2014 unprotected pick.

[Valid]

this really sucks. people are actually valuing 2 role players and 1 draft pick over what the celtics need most? ugh. would've been a fantastic trade for the c's. if i was the rockets gm i wouldn't do it either unless it was a 2014 unprotected pick.

In which case, Morey could go screw himself, and that's probably what ended up happening to stall/end the talks. Asik is a fine player, but he isn't worth that much.

[sully00]

Morey's problem is he doesn't have an offer. He has to call Ainge back and say he is now willing to take a deal he apparently turned down, which is beyond stupid unless you have a better deal in hand. The draft pick issue is not insignificant, Morey has been asking for an unprotected ''14 1st rounder that would mean Boston's own '14 pick not going to happen, Ainge offered the Clippers unprotected '15 pick.

Morey's other issue at the moment is that he is blackballed a little because of the offer sheet deals he made with Asik and Lin and the fact that he ended up the winner of the Howard sweepstakes. So things may not be playing out exactly as he imagined and doesn't have any friends willing to play along in other front offices everyone is saying they are out.

The deadline as far as the trade rules is nonsense. Unless he thinks he is dealing for Carmelo Anthony how much salary does he need to combine? He can trade whoever he gets by themselves tomorrow you just can't combine salary.

I think the deadline was something that Morey and Asik's agent agreed to and if Morey doesn't come through Asik's agent is going to unload in the media and so likely is Asik. Promises were made that aren't being kept while it is easy to say who cares, it is going to make doing the job of GM even harder. One of the reasons that Motiejunas is rumored to be in the deal is that he has the same agent Omer.

I can see what Morey's problem is that Bass and Lee aren't thrilled to be going to HOU and they really aren't very attractive trade assets and the Clippers pick isn't much to right home about there isn't much there but there may be nothing there if he doesn't take it. It wouldn't be a huge deal if Asik was playing and at all effective but I have a feeling that this thigh bruise might linger.

[ThirtyFour]

I want an avatar from the movie "Never back down" with Danny Ainge's head photoshopped on it... Love this guy.

[SuperDeluxe]

Deal always seemed too good to be true from the Cs perspective....people complaining that bass + lee + 1st rounder is too much for Asik, hey, I'm a homer too but let's be realistic Danny would have traded them 6 months ago if he could have found takers.

That would've been selling low, as they were both sucking badly last year. This year they are both playing pretty well, to the point that I wouldn't mind keeping them. The fairness of the deal after the addition of a mid-first-round pick would depend on how the drafted player turns out to be. Is that player a Jared Sullinger/Rajon Rondo type? Or is he a Gerald Green/Marcus Banks type? Would you do Bass/Lee/Sullinger for Asik?

[StojkoVrankovic]

Deal always seemed too good to be true from the Cs perspective....people complaining that bass + lee + 1st rounder is too much for Asik, hey, I'm a homer too but let's be realistic Danny would have traded them 6 months ago if he could have found takers. Ridding ourselves of them is worth the cost of a pick and that's even before considering that we would have gotten Asik too, just a really sweetheart of a deal for the Cs so I'm not surprised to see HOU walk away.

Rockets going to be hard pressed to beat the deal Danny laid on the table though, unless an injury happens down the line that changes the dynamic and shifts the leverage back to Houston. The cost to chemistry could be huge going forward, but who knows maybe Howard gets hurt and they need him after all. Things can change in 2 months. What really backfired in a big way was the stupid self-imposed deadline, what a manufactured bunch of horse poop that was. Didn't create the market they thought it would and just dragged a disgruntled Asik thru more torment.

I would assume there was an issue with protection on the pick, Danny acquired these picks to make trades like this.

Realistically what is the chance of this team adding all of those upcoming 1st round picks to the roster? Not sure a contending team, or at least a team that wants to get back to contending, has every done so.

[No35]

this really sucks. people are actually valuing 2 role players and 1 draft pick over what the celtics need most? ugh. would've been a fantastic trade for the c's. if i was the rockets gm i wouldn't do it either unless it was a 2014 unprotected pick.

LOL. This team would struggle to score 75 points with Asik. This would be a tank move, plain and simple.

[CollegeToPros]

this really sucks. people are actually valuing 2 role players and 1 draft pick over what the celtics need most? ugh. would've been a fantastic trade for the c's. if i was the rockets gm i wouldn't do it either unless it was a 2014 unprotected pick.

Rockets GM is in a corner. Owners don't want to pay for nothing and he knows it and he will have to answer for it. Bass and Lee can really help them out. Bass starts right away.

Hold firm.

[The Rondo Show]

Morey probably made this deadline deal scenario to placate Asik. They screwed him…. they know it….. they don't feel bad about it either because Howard is a prize catch. Still, they did honorably shopping Asik around. But why do they have to rush into a trade for guys they just want to trade away in 2 months. That part never made sense to me.

The Boston deal isn't so good that he has to pull trigger now. Maybe at trading deadline Celtics will be out of hunt but maybe they are still in playoff hunt and would be willing to give up more to get him.

The Celtics aren't going to give up more for Asik just because they are in the playoff hunt. It's not like we're a contender that is going to be one piece away from the title. This move would be for the next couple of years. If it doesn't benefit the C's for the future, Ainge won't do the deal.

Bingo. Ainge doesn't give a **** about making the playoffs, and wasn't making this trade to make the playoffs. He was doing it because he saw an undervalued asset on the market that he could buy low on.

[Celtic Esquire]

this really sucks. people are actually valuing 2 role players and 1 draft pick over what the celtics need most? ugh. would've been a fantastic trade for the c's. if i was the rockets gm i wouldn't do it either unless it was a 2014 unprotected pick.

Asik is a better rebounding version of Kendrick Perkins. No thanks.





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[Slartibartfast]

this really sucks. people are actually valuing 2 role players and 1 draft pick over what the celtics need most? ugh. would've been a fantastic trade for the c's. if i was the rockets gm i wouldn't do it either unless it was a 2014 unprotected pick.

Asik is a better rebounding version of Kendrick Perkins. No thanks.





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A better version of Perk at his best? How is that bad?

[Who-rod]

this really sucks. people are actually valuing 2 role players and 1 draft pick over what the celtics need most? ugh. would've been a fantastic trade for the c's. if i was the rockets gm i wouldn't do it either unless it was a 2014 unprotected pick.

Asik is a better rebounding version of Kendrick Perkins. No thanks.





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Asik is a MUCH better rebounding version of Perkins. He also has better hands than Perk, which isn't saying much, since Perk has the worst hands I have ever seen.

[Fidel Sarcasmo]

I saw some Asik highlights, and I actually like how he runs the floor and gets out in front in transition. I dont recall Perkins ever being adept at that. As a matter of fact, I recall a ton of times Perk dropped a pass right at the letters because his hands werent that good. Asik has a real inside game which is why he scores. Put backs, spin moves, defense sags and he dunks and he's got a finesse layup game around the rim with both hands while coming in from weird angles around the basket.

he's no shooter but who cares. He's a runner. Tommy Heinson loves those kind of guys.

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