Omer Asik Trade - Updated link pg.109

[SuperDeluxe]

Brooklyn could end up being competition for Asik's services.

Maybe, but the Rockets are looking for a pick, and we have all of the Nets' picks until the end of time.

[15th overall]

Asik + Lin for Pierce + Kirilenko + Mason Plumlee works in the trade machine.

[165bows]

Asik + Lin for Pierce + Kirilenko + Mason Plumlee works in the trade machine.

Those balloon payments would be a discount compared to the tax rates the Nets are paying on some of their salary.

[CollegeToPros]

Though I'm frustrated with Houston's GM, I would be so thrilled if Pierce and/or KG somehow end up in Houston playing for McHale.

KG/teletovic or whatever his name is for Asik.

[Celts17Pride]

KG will end up in Houston before Pierce would. Rockets have no need for Pierce but a trade involving Asik/KG could make some sense. I'm sure Morey will make the call.

[CelticFaninLBC]

More evidence that Morey's a POS

Houston had preliminary talks with the Nets involving Omer Asik as well as Jeremy Lin, a source tells Ohm Youngmisuk of ESPNNewYork.com. Youngmisuk describes the conversations as due diligence on the part of the Rockets, and apparently Houston asked for Deron Williams in return.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_ ... nicks-gain

[Valid]

More evidence that Morey's a POS

Houston had preliminary talks with the Nets involving Omer Asik as well as Jeremy Lin, a source tells Ohm Youngmisuk of ESPNNewYork.com. Youngmisuk describes the conversations as due diligence on the part of the Rockets, and apparently Houston asked for Deron Williams in return.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_ ... nicks-gain

[GreenMachine]

Houston is now down a starting PG... And their backup (Lin) has been in and out due to back spasms. I wonder if this changes their thinking. Craw and Hump for Asik. No pick.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Houston's injuries may force Morey's hand. Can't just let Asik sit when they could use him to fill needs... Just a matter of time before Dwight starts crying about lack of help.

[humblebum]

Houston is now down a starting PG... And their backup (Lin) has been in and out due to back spasms. I wonder if this changes their thinking. Craw and Hump for Asik. No pick.

I would not offer up Crawford. Let them try making Lee a PG. Stick with Lee/Bass and the Clips pick.

[GreenMachine]

Houston is now down a starting PG... And their backup (Lin) has been in and out due to back spasms. I wonder if this changes their thinking. Craw and Hump for Asik. No pick.

I would not offer up Crawford. Let them try making Lee a PG. Stick with Lee/Bass and the Clips pick.

I understand the sentiment... but at the end of the day, we want the trade to actually happen... and Craw might get it done. It's a HUGE sell high on Craw. Much better then trading him for a late first round pick. Jason Collins for Asik? Sign me up!

[CelticFaninLBC]

It would be silly to cling to Crawford, who becomes an RFA at the end of the season anyways... A rim protector is a much bigger need than a guy whose put together 10 nice games, and becomes a bench player when Rondo returns...

[humblebum]

I disagree. Crawford can flat out score the basketball and that's a valuable skill set especially when you play a non scoring PG like Rondo. I think at MLE money you're getting a bargain.

Asik has value but generally I don't like paying too much for no offense centers. You can generally find vet PF-C's who can defend and rebound for cheap. Guys like Chris Anderson, Nick Collison, etc.

If you can get that guy for Bass/Lee and one of your lesser firsts, sweet. If you're giving up a potential SMOTY type talent and killing your cap... Not so much.

[CelticFaninLBC]

I disagree. Crawford can flat out score the basketball and that's a valuable skill set especially when you play a non scoring PG like Rondo. I think at MLE money you're getting a bargain.

Asik has value but generally I don't like paying too much for no offense centers. You can generally find vet PF-C's who can defend and rebound for cheap. Guys like Chris Anderson, Nick Collison, etc.

If you can get that guy for Bass/Lee and one of your lesser firsts, sweet. If you're giving up a potential SMOTY type talent and killing your cap... Not so much.

But they can't get Asik for Bass/Lee and pick, and Asik >>> Anderson, Collison, etc... Hence why GM's are willing to spend 3 times as much on Asik..

[humblebum]

I disagree. Crawford can flat out score the basketball and that's a valuable skill set especially when you play a non scoring PG like Rondo. I think at MLE money you're getting a bargain.

Asik has value but generally I don't like paying too much for no offense centers. You can generally find vet PF-C's who can defend and rebound for cheap. Guys like Chris Anderson, Nick Collison, etc.

If you can get that guy for Bass/Lee and one of your lesser firsts, sweet. If you're giving up a potential SMOTY type talent and killing your cap... Not so much.

But they can't get Asik for Bass/Lee and pick, and Asik >>> Anderson, Collison, etc... Hence why GM's are willing to spend 3 times as much on Asik..

Well if Ainge thought as highly of the guy he'd already be in Green and White. As it stands it seems quite clear that there is a vast divide between what Morey and his fellow GM's think Asik is worth.

Personally, I think he's worth two role players, similar salary commitments and a low value first. I wouldn't spend a cent more than that as it's quite possible you could draft a cost controlled defensive C like Cauley-Stein for pennies of what Asik is making while keeping Crawford, who's a more valuable asset than people give him credit for.

[CelticFaninLBC]

I disagree. Crawford can flat out score the basketball and that's a valuable skill set especially when you play a non scoring PG like Rondo. I think at MLE money you're getting a bargain.

Asik has value but generally I don't like paying too much for no offense centers. You can generally find vet PF-C's who can defend and rebound for cheap. Guys like Chris Anderson, Nick Collison, etc.

If you can get that guy for Bass/Lee and one of your lesser firsts, sweet. If you're giving up a potential SMOTY type talent and killing your cap... Not so much.

But they can't get Asik for Bass/Lee and pick, and Asik >>> Anderson, Collison, etc... Hence why GM's are willing to spend 3 times as much on Asik..

Well if Ainge thought as highly of the guy he'd already be in Green and White. As it stands it seems quite clear that there is a vast divide between what Morey and his fellow GM's think Asik is worth.

Personally, I think he's worth two role players, similar salary commitments and a low value first. I wouldn't spend a cent more than that as it's quite possible you could draft a cost controlled defensive C like Cauley-Stein for pennies of what Asik is making while keeping Crawford, who's a more valuable asset than people give him credit for.

Ainge rightfully isn't going to give up Green & pick, but I bet he'd gladly deal Morey Bass, Crawford & a pick.

In regard to Cauley Stein, he could be long gone by the time Boston picks.. This draft doesn't have many centers.

[humblebum]

But they can't get Asik for Bass/Lee and pick, and Asik >>> Anderson, Collison, etc... Hence why GM's are willing to spend 3 times as much on Asik..

Well if Ainge thought as highly of the guy he'd already be in Green and White. As it stands it seems quite clear that there is a vast divide between what Morey and his fellow GM's think Asik is worth.

Personally, I think he's worth two role players, similar salary commitments and a low value first. I wouldn't spend a cent more than that as it's quite possible you could draft a cost controlled defensive C like Cauley-Stein for pennies of what Asik is making while keeping Crawford, who's a more valuable asset than people give him credit for.

Ainge rightfully isn't going to give up Green & pick, but I bet he'd gladly deal Morey Bass, Crawford & a pick.

In regard to Cauley Stein, he could be long gone by the time Boston picks.. This draft doesn't have many centers.

I bet you Crawford won't be traded. There is no reason to when it's unlikely he's going to get paid a ton as a RFA. He has a game tailor made to complement both Rondo and Bradley. He's also young and low cost scoring is hard to find.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Well if Ainge thought as highly of the guy he'd already be in Green and White. As it stands it seems quite clear that there is a vast divide between what Morey and his fellow GM's think Asik is worth.

Personally, I think he's worth two role players, similar salary commitments and a low value first. I wouldn't spend a cent more than that as it's quite possible you could draft a cost controlled defensive C like Cauley-Stein for pennies of what Asik is making while keeping Crawford, who's a more valuable asset than people give him credit for.

I bet you Crawford won't be traded. There is no reason to when it's unlikely he's going to get paid a ton as a RFA. He has a game tailor made to complement both Rondo and Bradley. He's also young and low cost scoring is hard to find.

If a late 1st is all a team offer, he probably won't get dealt.. If Asik is offered, he's gone.

[humblebum]

I bet you Crawford won't be traded. There is no reason to when it's unlikely he's going to get paid a ton as a RFA. He has a game tailor made to complement both Rondo and Bradley. He's also young and low cost scoring is hard to find.

If a late 1st is all a team offer, he probably won't get dealt.. If Asik is offered, he's gone.

I think you're clearly overrating Asik. Not that valuable.

[GreenMachine]

If a late 1st is all a team offer, he probably won't get dealt.. If Asik is offered, he's gone.

I think you're clearly overrating Asik. Not that valuable.

I think you're clearly overrating Crawford. Not that valuable.