Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread

Boarder Patrol · Post #3701 » by **Boarder Patrol** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:59 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:There's a couple of posters on the Wolves board who would like to get JR in a trade. So his value is not all that low as Thugger makes it out to be.

JR will warm up a bit and possibly become trade-able. He started off crazy inefficient last year too. I think a smaller market may be willing to bite since his contract is mostly already paid for.

Post #3702 » by **Thugger HBC** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:08 am

Rasho Brezec wrote:There's a couple of posters on the Wolves board who would like to get JR in a trade. So his value is not all that low as Thugger makes it out to be.

Let me guess, it's centered around Sha-bust.

is JR the main piece going out...I doubt it.

Rasho Brezec · Post #3703 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:14 am

Barea + Martin for JR Smith + Shumpert?

Post #3704 » by **Thugger HBC** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:19 am

Rasho Brezec wrote:
Barea + Martin for JR Smith + Shumpert?

yuck.

Rasho Brezec · Post #3705 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:37 am

Both players are an upgrade for us.

Post #3706 » by **Thugger HBC** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:41 am

Rasho Brezec wrote:Both players are an upgrade for us.

An upgrade over those players, but not an upgrade in winning games.

Rasho Brezec · Post #3707 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:42 am

We win more games with those two.

Post #3708 » by **Thugger HBC** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:46 am

Rasho Brezec wrote:We win more games with those two.

we'd still be losers even with 5 more wins.

Boarder Patrol · Post #3709 » by **Boarder Patrol** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:46 am

Would anyone do Shumpert + Kenyon + Cole for Meyers Leonard + Allen Crabbe + (minimum salary scrub)

FutureKnicksGM · Post #3710 » by **FutureKnicksGM** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:57 am

I posted JR, Beno for Barea, Shved on the trade board a while back, they didn't seem to hate it.

iAdoreeKnicks · Post #3711 » by **iAdoreeKnicks** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:51 am

trade shumpert for lowry now!

cammac · Post #3712 » by **cammac** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:32 am

CP3Melo wrote:trade shumpert for lowry now!

Might trade you Vasquez for Shumpert before deadline wouldn't ask for 2018 1st.

pickaxe · Post #3713 » by **pickaxe** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:39 am

Get you some Morris bros and a 1RP from Phoenix.....check out this info:

hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/12/13/suns-looking-to-trade-picks-in-2014-draft/

Specifically, go for the Wiz 1RP

Scalabrine · Post #3714 » by **Scalabrine** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:32 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:
Scalabrine wrote:This one would hurt because they are some of my favorite Knicks and the guys that really give it 100% and play good hard nosed basketball but what do you guys think about this deal.

Tyson Chandler, Kenyon Martin, Beno Udrih
for
Kendrick Perkins, Reggie Jackson, Jeremy Lamb

we could put Shumpert and Peace in the deal if they gave us Collison and Perry Jones as well, or maybe a future first...

I dont think Perkins is a good player at all but his contract is what is important in this trade, the fact that he could eat some minutes as a defensive Center could help us too in the absence of Chandler but that comes as a far second. The key for us is getting Jackson and Lamb, these are two guys that are very solid players but playing behind 2 of the best in the game. The Thunder have great talent evaluation and they have rarely missed on a rookie, so getting two guys from that system would really help our team get some more young potential and small contracts back.

The next move would be to unload JR Smith and Felton to a team in the same fashion. Smith could work in OKC but he doesnt fit for salary purposes but for now they stay and we still stay competitive and try to get some young cheap potential.

We're not getting both Jackson and Lamb for Tyson and have OKC pay lux tax. This would be more feasible for them from a value and financial standpoint:

Tyson + Shumpert + Aldrich + Martin for Perkins + Sefolosha + Adams + Thabeet

They only add a little more than 100k and remain under the luxury tax threshold. We get a future beast C that's quick enough to defend pick and rolls and strong enough to not get burned in the post. Those are rare to find.

Im not sure Adams is a beast Center. Hes got a great motor but his talent just doesnt scream out untapped potential. I would love him on this team though no doubt. I think if we are giving up Shumpert in the deal one of Lamb or Jackson would have to come back aswell... I think I would even rather one of them over Adams if given the option. I think Jackson has some serious potential that he wont reach in OKC.

Post #3715 » by **j4remi** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:57 pm

Someone draw up a deal for Thad Young...he'd be cool to see as a Knick, I've been a fan for a few years.

BowlRips · Post #3716 » by **BowlRips** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:32 pm

with first rounders going from Dallas and Phx to New York...

Marty McFly · Post #3717 » by **Marty McFly** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:58 pm

BowlRips wrote:

with first rounders going from Dallas and Phx to New York...

dude, if your going to trade our two best players, we need to get more than that back. I'd rather get blake griffin than that package.

Marty McFly · Post #3718 » by **Marty McFly** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:03 pm

with the knicks getting the rights to their picks back in 2014 and 2016.

knicks would never do this deal though.

BowlRips · Post #3719 » by **BowlRips** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:07 pm

Marty McFly wrote:
BowlRips wrote:

with first rounders going from Dallas and Phx to New York...

dude, if your going to trade our two best players, we need to get more than that back. I'd rather get blake griffin than that package.

Knicks would have 0 on the books for 2015 in my scenario with a few draft picks coming in..
Ultimate quick and easy rebuild.

Your trade has us acquire marginal players who will not make us better in the long run

Marty McFly · Post #3720 » by **Marty McFly** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:20 pm

BowlRips wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:
BowlRips wrote:

with first rounders going from Dallas and Phx to New York...

dude, if your going to trade our two best players, we need to get more than that back. I'd rather get blake griffin than that package.

Knicks would have 0 on the books for 2015 in my scenario with a few draft picks coming in..
Ultimate quick and easy rebuild.

Your trade has us acquire marginal players who will not make us better in the long run

the difference is, with our picks we can control our fate much better then with those picks from those other teams. with your trade you could very well give the nuggets a franchise player, with mine you'd actually have a chance at landing one. you wouldn't have zero on the books if your signing draft picks. with my trade you'd still have capsace to attempt to sign kyrie in 2015, and maybe a hibbert or a noah in 2016.