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Game 27: Lakers @ Suns

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Re: Game 27: Lakers @ Suns 

Post#141 » by thamadkant » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:49 am

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Blackification wrote:miles plumlee first suns player to get 20 board since amare in 2009. Miles is becoming one of my favorites on this team.

Len is going to have to earn his minutes over this guy for sure


What if he does :o

If Plumlee adds a 15ft'r next offseason... F#$K Len....... I'm willing to bet Plumlee gets a 15 ft'r and ups his FT's next year. He is soooo perfect for this team, along with Frye. Add Hayward next year :D PJ gets so many opportunities to be an impact player on offense but he fails a little too much for me. Just think if we filled that spot with a Gerald Green with handles.



What do you mean f$&k Len??

Len and Plumlee would be perfect rotation / Combo upfront.
Plumlee reminds me of Biedrins and Jeff Foster on roids, Len can be that back to the basket big man who can be Hibbert like defensively.

Plumlee is probably my second favourite player on this suns team but he is crazy limited offensively and I'm by that, he can catch a pass and finish with a dunk and I'm perfectly happy with that. Len can be that big man you give the ball to and he draws double teams and he finds the open man cutting or 3pt shooter... Plumlee cannot do that and I'm fine with that role.

Either way we all should support Len as much as possible because he only makes this team that much better if can somehow contribute defensively and with his back to the basket game.
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Re: Game 27: Lakers @ Suns 

Post#142 » by bigfoot » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:09 pm

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JMac1 wrote:
Blackification wrote:miles plumlee first suns player to get 20 board since amare in 2009. Miles is becoming one of my favorites on this team.

Len is going to have to earn his minutes over this guy for sure


What if he does :o

If Plumlee adds a 15ft'r next offseason... F#$K Len....... I'm willing to bet Plumlee gets a 15 ft'r and ups his FT's next year. He is soooo perfect for this team, along with Frye. Add Hayward next year :D PJ gets so many opportunities to be an impact player on offense but he fails a little too much for me. Just think if we filled that spot with a Gerald Green with handles.



What do you mean f$&k Len??

Len and Plumlee would be perfect rotation / Combo upfront.
Plumlee reminds me of Biedrins and Jeff Foster on roids, Len can be that back to the basket big man who can be Hibbert like defensively.

Plumlee is probably my second favourite player on this suns team but he is crazy limited offensively and I'm by that, he can catch a pass and finish with a dunk and I'm perfectly happy with that. Len can be that big man you give the ball to and he draws double teams and he finds the open man cutting or 3pt shooter... Plumlee cannot do that and I'm fine with that role.

Either way we all should support Len as much as possible because he only makes this team that much better if can somehow contribute defensively and with his back to the basket game.


I think Plumlee is showing much more offense than you are giving him credit for. He does have a budding back to the basket game ... can finish a short hook shot over either shoulder. His footwork is quite impressive. I believe he still has a ton of upside and expect he will continue to improve over the next two seasons.
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Re: Game 27: Lakers @ Suns 

Post#143 » by Blackification » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:11 pm

bigfoot wrote:
1UPZ wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
What if he does :o

If Plumlee adds a 15ft'r next offseason... F#$K Len....... I'm willing to bet Plumlee gets a 15 ft'r and ups his FT's next year. He is soooo perfect for this team, along with Frye. Add Hayward next year :D PJ gets so many opportunities to be an impact player on offense but he fails a little too much for me. Just think if we filled that spot with a Gerald Green with handles.



What do you mean f$&k Len??

Len and Plumlee would be perfect rotation / Combo upfront.
Plumlee reminds me of Biedrins and Jeff Foster on roids, Len can be that back to the basket big man who can be Hibbert like defensively.

Plumlee is probably my second favourite player on this suns team but he is crazy limited offensively and I'm by that, he can catch a pass and finish with a dunk and I'm perfectly happy with that. Len can be that big man you give the ball to and he draws double teams and he finds the open man cutting or 3pt shooter... Plumlee cannot do that and I'm fine with that role.

Either way we all should support Len as much as possible because he only makes this team that much better if can somehow contribute defensively and with his back to the basket game.


I think Plumlee is showing much more offense than you are giving him credit for. He does have a budding back to the basket game ... can finish a short hook shot over either shoulder. His footwork is quite impressive. I believe he still has a ton of upside and expect he will continue to improve over the next two seasons.

I agree Plumlee has shown he has very nice footwork and I always want us to set up some plays for him.

I also agree that Len still has a lot he can bring to this team however he hasn't proven anything yet and Miles is playing fantastic. Its a great position to be in when you have not one but two promising centers that are both young
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Re: Game 27: Lakers @ Suns 

Post#144 » by Jdiddy701 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:01 pm

You guys make it seem like Len has proved to be a good player. The guy might be another Robin Lopez for us.

Plumlee is ballin.. No one taking minutes from that man right now.
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Re: Game 27: Lakers @ Suns 

Post#145 » by Frank Lee » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:47 pm

Jdiddy701 wrote:You guys make it seem like Len has proved to be a good player. The guy might be another Robin Lopez for us.

Plumlee is ballin.. No one taking minutes from that man right now.



Its only a matter of time before hackaPlum comes into play. He'll be taking himself out of the game if he can get that % up to a respectable #. You know Pops is on to it... he is waiting in the weeds to use it when it matters
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Re: Game 27: Lakers @ Suns 

Post#146 » by Qwigglez » Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:16 pm

When I was at the Spurs/Suns game, I thought Plumlee had pretty good foot work on Duncan. I'm not saying he is going to develop into a premier post big man in the league, but he has a few tricks up his sleeve.

As for Len, I'm with 1Upz. Give him time! I'm glad Plumlee is here so Len won't get as much sh**talkers because of his injury.
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Re: Game 27: Lakers @ Suns 

Post#147 » by RaisingArizona » Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:25 pm

Oh laker fans...I almost feel bad. Almost.
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Re: Game 27: Lakers @ Suns 

Post#148 » by JMac1 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:36 pm

1UPZ wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
Blackification wrote:miles plumlee first suns player to get 20 board since amare in 2009. Miles is becoming one of my favorites on this team.

Len is going to have to earn his minutes over this guy for sure


What if he does :o

If Plumlee adds a 15ft'r next offseason... F#$K Len....... I'm willing to bet Plumlee gets a 15 ft'r and ups his FT's next year. He is soooo perfect for this team, along with Frye. Add Hayward next year :D PJ gets so many opportunities to be an impact player on offense but he fails a little too much for me. Just think if we filled that spot with a Gerald Green with handles.



What do you mean f$&k Len??

Len and Plumlee would be perfect rotation / Combo upfront.
Plumlee reminds me of Biedrins and Jeff Foster on roids, Len can be that back to the basket big man who can be Hibbert like defensively.

Plumlee is probably my second favourite player on this suns team but he is crazy limited offensively and I'm by that, he can catch a pass and finish with a dunk and I'm perfectly happy with that. Len can be that big man you give the ball to and he draws double teams and he finds the open man cutting or 3pt shooter... Plumlee cannot do that and I'm fine with that role.

Either way we all should support Len as much as possible because he only makes this team that much better if can somehow contribute defensively and with his back to the basket game.


I didn't mean literally! I haven't given up on Len at all.
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Re: Game 27: Lakers @ Suns 

Post#149 » by Ring_Wanted » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:22 pm

Plums has been invaluable protecting the rim. It's amazing not just the blocks, but also how many close shots/layup/dunk attempts he alters. I am in love with that jump with the arms fully extended instead of the usual axe blow from many other players who supposedly are great at this. That is some crazy fundamentally sound defense, to go along with his intensity and strenght when he is played in the post.

Len better be watching and taking notes.

As for Miles' offense, come on, crazy limited? He has advanced footwork and makes credible fakes. His hooks are not falling as much as they did in the first games, but he is also taking them from further, I guess because teams are taking notice. I am totally confident he'll be able to adjust and be more efficient with that move.

The FTs and developing a midrange jumper is a must, of course.

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