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Post#281 » by Sgt P » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:00 am

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Post#282 » by KingDavid » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:57 pm

Js2k0516 wrote:So injured yet he is running and jumping up and down the sideline after every shot the heat make lol. This is a punishment, simple as that.

Ever pulled a hamstring playing sports? When you think you feel better and you play again, it comes back after you warm up. It's just a precaution. It's why we sit Wade too. We're playing for long term not short term. I doubt it's punishment. Even if it was, who cares?
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Post#283 » by GameTime_3 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:12 pm

shanedude wrote:His first game back and he contributes in a huge way. What a gamer!


Spo knows that Beasley is an important piece of this team and wasn't going to rush him back. What was surprising yesterday was Spo's trust in Beasley on Defense. Beasley has really stepped up this year. Last night's game with LeBron on Bench, Beasley came in and gave us a spark and keep the offense going.

This year; 17mpg 11ppg 4.7rbs on 50% from 3pt and 52% overall.

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Post#284 » by MisterHibachi » Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:40 pm

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Post#285 » by DayofMourning » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:20 pm

Its amazing that he has been able to come back so strongly after being viewed as an absolute disaster by many media/fans. I'd say he's contributing at a higher level in terms of efficiency and offensive/defensive balance than anyone in his draft class. That is saying something.
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Post#286 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:07 pm

DayofMourning wrote:Its amazing that he has been able to come back so strongly after being viewed as an absolute disaster by many media/fans. I'd say he's contributing at a higher level in terms of efficiency and offensive/defensive balance than anyone in his draft class. That is saying something.




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Post#287 » by Slot Machine » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:46 pm

I'm extremely impressed with Beasley's rebounding. He's actually fighting for boards, it's great to see. Reminds me of how he played at K-State.
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Post#288 » by DayofMourning » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:03 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:Its amazing that he has been able to come back so strongly after being viewed as an absolute disaster by many media/fans. I'd say he's contributing at a higher level in terms of efficiency and offensive/defensive balance than anyone in his draft class. That is saying something.




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Per 36 minutes he's averaging 23 points, 9 rebounds, 1 steal, 1 block, while shooting 54% from the field, and 53% from 3. So, that means he's averaging much better shooting percentages than either Russell or Love (his competition) while posting similar bulk stats (pts, reb, etc...).

Now looking back at my post, I stated he was more efficient (his %s clearly show this) and a better offensive/defensive balance (if you think either Russell or Love is a better defender then you're missing something) in the time he's been on the floor. Now that I've clarified it for you, do you understand?
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Post#289 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:24 am

DayofMourning wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:Its amazing that he has been able to come back so strongly after being viewed as an absolute disaster by many media/fans. I'd say he's contributing at a higher level in terms of efficiency and offensive/defensive balance than anyone in his draft class. That is saying something.




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Per 36 minutes he's averaging 23 points, 9 rebounds, 1 steal, 1 block, while shooting 54% from the field, and 53% from 3. So, that means he's averaging much better shooting percentages than either Russell or Love (his competition) while posting similar bulk stats (pts, reb, etc...).

Now looking back at my post, I stated he was more efficient (his %s clearly show this) and a better offensive/defensive balance (if you think either Russell or Love is a better defender then you're missing something) in the time he's been on the floor. Now that I've clarified it for you, do you understand?


I understand that you're trying really hard to compliment him, which is nice, but it's always good to stay realistic and not sound like a complete homer. You can dance around the wording but to suggest he's contributing more then all of this list :


Kevin Love
Westbrook
Brook Lopez
Nikola Pekovic
DeAndre Jordan
Roy Hibbert
Serge Ibaka
Ryan Anderson
Nicolas Batum
Omer Asik
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....

Is just ridiculous.

Michael is doing really well as a spark off the bench in limited minutes as of right now, no need to overhype.
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Post#290 » by DayofMourning » Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:04 am

The wording is exactly what separates my statement. You misunderstood it. I clarified it. You still misunderstood it.
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Post#291 » by DWadeno3 » Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:06 pm

DayofMourning wrote:The wording is exactly what separates my statement. You misunderstood it. I clarified it. You still misunderstood it.


What's the point of your statement? He's playing limited minutes in a limited role, meaning the room for error for him is significantly smaller than it is for many other players in his draft class and he can play extremely hard in his limited amount of minutes, knowing he'll have plenty of rest. Thus, what you perceive as great, is merely a result of his role on a great team with several superstar teammates.
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Post#292 » by DayofMourning » Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:17 pm

DWadeno3 wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:The wording is exactly what separates my statement. You misunderstood it. I clarified it. You still misunderstood it.


What's the point of your statement? He's playing limited minutes in a limited role, meaning the room for error for him is significantly smaller than it is for many other players in his draft class and he can play extremely hard in his limited amount of minutes, knowing he'll have plenty of rest. Thus, what you perceive as great, is merely a result of his role on a great team with several superstar teammates.


That's correct. I didn't mention in my statement that I thought he was an all star or should be on an all nba team. I merely commented on how efficient he was compared to his draft class. Whether it comes in limited minutes or not. Whether he's on a very talented team or not. I'm not holding that against him.

Apparently this is a very controversial topic, because stating the facts on how well he is playing is somehow being a homer or exaggerating Beasley's impact. Maybe subsequent posts will have to have all inclusive disclaimers about his negatives/drawbacks in order to not be misinterpreted.
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Post#293 » by aquaadverse » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:13 am

DayofMourning wrote:
DWadeno3 wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:The wording is exactly what separates my statement. You misunderstood it. I clarified it. You still misunderstood it.


What's the point of your statement? He's playing limited minutes in a limited role, meaning the room for error for him is significantly smaller than it is for many other players in his draft class and he can play extremely hard in his limited amount of minutes, knowing he'll have plenty of rest. Thus, what you perceive as great, is merely a result of his role on a great team with several superstar teammates.


That's correct. I didn't mention in my statement that I thought he was an all star or should be on an all nba team. I merely commented on how efficient he was compared to his draft class. Whether it comes in limited minutes or not. Whether he's on a very talented team or not. I'm not holding that against him.


The problem is the efficiency wouldn't likely hold up if he played more minutes or had less talent around him. Which are factors you're holding against other members of his draft class who do play more minutes and do have less talent around them.

It's like last year's argument people were having about Duncan deserving DPOY. On one side you had folks using stats he put up extrapolated to per 36 minutes. On the other hand, you had people arguing that if he did play an actual 36 minutes per, his numbers would drop for a variety of reasons.

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