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Re: Give yourself a Scouting Report 

Post#21 » by Witzig-Okashi » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:24 pm

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Reservoirdawgs wrote:I'm surprised at how many tall people there are in this thread. I was expecting more average height (5'9 or so).

6'3'' or 6'4'' guys (like me) aren't really THAT tall. There are many men this height. I'd consider 6'6'' + to be really unusually tall. I believe Doctor MJ is like 6'9'' or so, at least I remember reading that on this board some time ago.


I use to think the same thing. But considering how much I use to associate basketball heights with heights of people in the 'real world', and playing basketball against much bigger guys (my dad is 6'8 and 240, and was a headache to guard) I don't think in that manner nearly as much as I used to. I remember my cousin laughing when I said I was only "6'2". Not to mention all of the friends, teachers, and students who use to be fascinated with my height over the years (and still are). I still don't think 6'2, 6'3 is that tall, but considering the average height of a man is 5'9 or 5'10, 6'2 and higher is definitely above average.
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Re: Give yourself a Scouting Report 

Post#22 » by Witzig-Okashi » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:33 pm

6'2 (6'3 in shoes), approx. 150 lbs

Wingspan, "6'9"

Strengths: Superb man-to-man defender on the perimeter, active on weakside defense. Rebounds well for position, does all of the little things well. Streaky Shooter

Weaknesses: Inconsistent dribble, almost predominately left-handed, can be bullied in the post if tried taken out of guarding specific player. Was roughly 170 at peak, but lost weight (13 lbs) instead of adding weight during the so-called Freshman 15 years. Streaky shooter.

My main issue on why I felt I never develop properly is that I wasn't playing the proper position. Albeit my dribble wasn't as good at my best, but guarding people 5 inches taller and 70 pounds heavier at time (give or take 2 inches and 20 pounds) stunted my growth. By the time my dribble was better, I stopped playing due to injury. Never a collegiate level player (D-III is a stretch) but could have developed into one if I honed my craft sooner. Oh well...
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Re: Give yourself a Scouting Report 

Post#23 » by prs » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:43 pm

I dunno I've read quite a few threads where people talk about height on the internet and it seems like most people that say they're 6-6'1 are probably 5'8-5'11. I always see people that say they're that height saying that they don't feel tall or w.e. I've lived in 4 different states and 2 cities and I've always felt tall at 6'1.

I'd say over 6'4 is definitely very tall. A lot of people I know over 6'4 (pretty much my dads side of the family, avg male height is like 6'6, those german dirk genes) slouch cause they feel uncomfortably taller than everyone in public.
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Re: Give yourself a Scouting Report 

Post#24 » by Dr Spaceman » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:49 pm

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6'4" 174 lbs.
SF/PF

Strengths:
Deadly shooter. Quick release, great form, and the confidence to pull the trigger from anywhere. Has a natural feel for getting himself open around the 3 point line, and punishes his man for a second's hesitation. Uses the threat of his 3 point shot to free himself using pump fakes and back door cuts. Most of his offensive game revolves around 3 point shots, 1-dribble pull-ups, and a running bank shot from the baseline. Sets great screens, and uses them to set up around the arc in the pick and pop. Versatile defender, can guard the 2-4 somewhat effectively. Decent motor. Uses his height effectively on both ends. Competent passer; nothing spectacular, but few turnovers. Overall, has great instincts and feel for the game, and is a plus in a team defense scheme.

Weaknesses:
Limited athlete. Gets blown by on the perimeter by quicker guards. Doesn't have the strength or frame to be a good low-post defender, and can be backed down fairly easily . Overall, probably a liability in man-to-man defense. Cannot create offense off the dribble inside the three point arc. Too skinny to be much of a factor inside or on the boards. Can lose focus at times. Competent ball handler, but still developing on that front. Struggles to finish at the rim consistently.

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Post#25 » by Witzig-Okashi » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:58 pm

prs wrote:I dunno I've read quite a few threads where people talk about height on the internet and it seems like most people that say they're 6-6'1 are probably 5'8-5'11. I always see people that say they're that height saying that they don't feel tall or w.e. I've lived in 4 different states and 2 cities and I've always felt tall at 6'1.

I'd say over 6'4 is definitely very tall. A lot of people I know over 6'4 (pretty much my dads side of the family, avg male height is like 6'6, those german dirk genes) slouch cause they feel uncomfortably taller than everyone in public.


I feel abnormally tall my 'modest' height, too. I think the freakishly long limbs are what give me more trouble, especially why trying to buy specific clothes and can't because of my armspan and/or weight...
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Post#26 » by penbeast0 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 5:14 pm

6' 215 but plays taller. Good hustling defender, bad hands rebounder, decent shotblocker. Offensively relies on reasonably consistent mid to high post hook shot as bread and butter, limited countermoves, jump shot unreliable, good court awareness, tendency to overpass particularly to cutters, calls screens and defensive switches well. Ankle and knee injuries have severely limited mobility.

NBA comp: Kevin Seraphin (albeit a foot shorter and 30 years older . . . and extremely unalthetic).
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Re: Give yourself a Scouting Report 

Post#27 » by blazersfan52 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:10 pm

OnePostLegend wrote:
Reservoirdawgs wrote:I'm surprised at how many tall people there are in this thread. I was expecting more average height (5'9 or so).


It makes sense that a lot of people who take basketball seriously enough to contribute to a basketball message board played at least high school ball or something.

Or people could just be giving themselves some extra inches. Or shorter people are more discouraged to post in this thread for some reason.

It's weird that I'm easily the shortest person in this thread but am heavier than about half of you.

Hey I have only played ball for fun, and I am 16 and have grandparents on both sides that were tall and really skinny throughout their lifes so I got good genes for it. :D
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Post#28 » by Swagalicious » Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:55 am

6'2 165 lbs

Strengths:

Well, my whole game feeds off my ability to shoot mid-range jumpers. My jumper is wet out to about 20 feet and I can create off-the dribble with ease, either fading away or on straight pull-ups, doesn't matter if it's contested or not. Basically I like to play the way Melo does and work from the triple threat or post up (my turnaround is decent). Most players will, at some point, recognize that I'm a threat from outside and most players on my level are easily faked out by a pump-fake or a jab-steb, which allow me to blow by. My wingspan and hand size have both been called "jewish as hell" multiple times and I'm very active defensively and pride myself on my ability to lock people up man-to-man. Athleticism-wise I'm decent. I can dunk in transition and recover quickly to shooters and my stamina is really good (I consider myself in my prime atm and I can play hours of 90 degrees LA streetball without getting too weak).

Weaknesses:

I can't finish at the rim to save my life. I blow reverse layups on a routine basis and can't take hits on my way to the rim, I'm always trying to avoid contact (which I'm pretty good at). I simply can't shoot from +20 feet with any consistency and even spotting up I'm no good because I rarely work on deep spot up Js. I do tend to play hero-ball when I get angry which can be both good or bad (mostly good as of recently, though). I get lost on rotations sometimes and I'm no stranger to forgetting which set my team is running, either. And oh, I commit dumb reach-in fouls defending on the ball at times. Also - I do have flashy and effective handles but don't expect me to cross a guy up and throw a pass. I'm not a playmaker. When I start dancing around, you better believe I'm shooting the ball.



NBA comparison: Idk...Melo with defense but no three ball? My face-up/post-up game looks a lot like Melo. He's also not a great finisher (yeah I get that the numbers are skewed due to the calls he's not getting) and rarely catches the ball to make a play for someone else off-the-driblle. When he's making plays for the team, it's usually off a catch or with a live dribble posting up.
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Re: Give yourself a Scouting Report 

Post#29 » by RSCD3_ » Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:35 am

OnePostLegend wrote:This is pretty fun!

5'7" 170 lbs PG

NBA Comparison: Eric Bledsoe

Strength: Superior athleticism and body control, tight handle with both hands and good passing ability. Knows where his teammates like to receive the ball, routinely collapses defenses off the dribble and hits open shooters. Excellent strength for size. 6'2" wingspan. Good on-ball defender. Solid jump shot mechanics and decently reliable 3 point range. Finishes well at rim. In terrific shape/condition. High bball IQ, good communicator, unselfish teammate, very competitive.

Weaknesses: Can be passive at times. Doesn't always effectively utilize quick first step. Tends to play passing lanes too aggressively. Gets frustrated if outside shot isn't falling. Has a good jumper (though there is room for improvement), but often settles instead of attacking basket, which is what he's best at. Doesn't move well off the ball. Needs to have the ball on the perimeter to be most effective. Out of control in transition and susceptible to turnovers. Short, injury prone, sometimes too competitive.


You sound more like john wall

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Post#30 » by mojomarc » Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:01 am

Now that I think about it, I wish I had posted this:

"Gritty player from the mean streets of Harlem. 6'5, but 6'9" with afro. Pretty good dribbler, able to shake off four or five defenders with ease. Defines grace under pressure." But then again, that might make me into a Lakers fan....
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Post#31 » by CellarDoor » Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:14 am

Used to always love these threads...

Slightly above average at 5'11, slightly over my ideal weight at 165. I'll do like Texas Chuck and do a currently and an in my prime. The current is after a broken back and broken neck with plenty of ankle injuries and a traveling consulting job.

Now:
Deadly shooter out just past the three point line, can't extend much further. Not a terrific dribbler, but hesitations and threats of a pull up can get me to the basket where I tend to overpass. Excellent team defender in a fluid scheme and I can guard pretty much anyone not faster than me. Anyone faster than me I've got no chance. Below average rebounder and I don't generate a lot of turnovers.

Prime:
Deadly shooter. Good shooter out to around 28 feet if I stepped into it. Had enough crossovers and hesitations moves to get anywhere at anytime, but had a tendency to try to finish around contact. While good at circus layups, they still weren't higher percentage than free throws would have been. Excellent man defender and generated turnovers, but poor team defense and a poor understanding of strong side/weak side concepts. Below average rebounder.

The comparisons would be something like...Mike Conley with worse defense?
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Post#32 » by JulesWinnfield » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:27 am

Me: 6'0" 185- Prime scouting report

Strengths: Explosive leaper off the floor with a very impressive 1 foot takeoff. Bigger wingpsan than a typical 6 footer with long arms and big hands, can easily palm the basketball. Able to dunk since before i was 6 feet. Excellent finisher, flashy in traffic and very effective at the rim. Uses his body well, can use those big hands to palm and control the basketball while airborn to adjust and find a clear release point in traffic. Well built, can absorb contact and finish. Good first step. A very good and willing passer. Good man defender. Very competitive personality.

Weaknesses: Average speed and quickness. Streaky perimeter shooter. Prone to gambling on defense. Average ball handler. Will frequently opt for the flashy play over the smart play.

NBA comparison: Im not really sure.
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Post#33 » by Sagittaron » Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:55 am

Very interesting topic

6'3" - 185 pounds - PG

NBA comparison: If I really had to choose I would say George Hill or Patrick Beverly

Strengths:

- Deadly 3 point shooter
- Court vision, excellent assist to turnover ratio
- Elite size for position (here most people playing PG are at most 6')
- Can finish at the rim over the top due to height advantage
- Excellent perimeter defender
- High IQ. Plays within himself, team player
- Hustle and energy

Weaknesses:

- Not an explosive leaper. At best an average athlete
- Not a good free throw shooter (around 60%)
- Not a good mid range shooter which allows defenders to go under in PnR
- Can't create his own offence, doesn't play isolation at all
- Below average moving of the ball. Can only come of screens for 3 point shots, not a good slasher/cutter
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Post#34 » by Mars_Blackmon » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:05 am

5'11 175

Point Guard

Strengths- High basketball IQ, pass first, pass second, pass third, great range, great free throw shooter, strong man to man defender and help defender. Great pull up game, iso game, post up game and solid in transition. Works great in the pick n roll.

Weaknesses- Gets pass happy usually forcing things usually leading to turnovers. Doesn't look for shot enough

NBA Comparison- Chauncey Billups
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Post#35 » by penbeast0 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:15 pm

I got the NBA offense of Ben Wallace, the defense of Amare Stoudamire, and the size of Nate Robinson. I can't understand why the NBA never called!
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Post#36 » by Hawk » Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:29 pm

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Post#37 » by MoneyBall10 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:18 pm

5'11''
165 lbs
Guard

Strengths: Good perimeter defender, rebounds well for size, pretty good shooter with range (can be streaky at times), high bball iq.

Weaknesses: Poor finisher at the rim, poor 1 v 1 skills, can't create my own offense

NBA Comparison: Maybe you guys can help me out with that?
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Post#38 » by Quotatious » Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:23 pm

MoneyBall10 wrote:Strengths: Good perimeter defender, rebounds well for size, pretty good shooter with range (can be streaky at times), high bball iq.

Weaknesses: Poor finisher at the rim, poor 1 v 1 skills, can't create my own offense

NBA Comparison: Maybe you guys can help me out with that?

You're a prototypical 3 and D guy. :D I'd say Raja Bell is a good comparison, other than your size.
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Post#39 » by MoneyBall10 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:31 pm

Quotatious wrote:
MoneyBall10 wrote:Strengths: Good perimeter defender, rebounds well for size, pretty good shooter with range (can be streaky at times), high bball iq.

Weaknesses: Poor finisher at the rim, poor 1 v 1 skills, can't create my own offense

NBA Comparison: Maybe you guys can help me out with that?

You're a prototypical 3 and D guy. :D I'd say Raja Bell is a good comparison, other than your size.



Yeah, that sounds like a good comparison. Thanks.
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Post#40 » by RSCD3_ » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:27 pm

6'1 200

Strengths
- Good Endurance, knows how to use effort
- Quick at attacking Rim, Decent at jumping
- Great motor on defense
- Very good Lateral speed hard to drive past, doesnt give up dribble penetration
- Plays physically lets you feel his presence on both floor
-Good finsihing ability
-Moderate explosive ability but high top end speed, good at chase down blocks.
-Doesnt gamble on steals
-Good and smart passer, knows when to make the pass but not a big risk taker.

Weakness
- Streaky midrange shooter
- Limited 3 pt shot
- Post moves are a bit robotic
- Can disapper on offense
- Almost completely right handed
- Not a great off the ball player
- Can be a black hole in the post
- Conditioning issues Would be most athletic at 175.

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