Doctor MJ wrote:MisterHibachi wrote:
From what I understand the games over there are where you take current rosters and then trade with each other. I'm looking to do something different than that.
Edit: do you happen to have a link to that all-time league? I would like to see how it turned out and all the rules you implemented.
Pretty sure they've done a wide variety of games on their Games sub-board, but regardless:
Can't link to the original ATLs because stuff that old is gone (or at least not publicly accessible).
First league: 30 teams. Wilt picked first, Jordan second. tkb won with a team that had Shaq & Kobe.
Second league: 16 teams. Jordan picked first, Wilt second. penbeast0 won with a team that had Shaq & Frazier.
By "won", I mean that after completing the draft, we had a tournament where the players had to explain their general strategy and to talk specifics against each opponent they faced. Team GMs voted, and if you got more votes than your opponent, you moved on.
The first ATL had really amazing tournament arguments, the second one not so much.
The second ATL (ran by tkb), had some clear improvements for sanity: 16 teams was better than 32. If you miss your draft pick, we go on without you until you come back. Explicitly forcing GMs to declare minute and shot allocation, and these numbers had to be reasonable based on the players career. Couldn't have Bill Walton playing 36 MPG.
It was remarked upon at the time how well Shaq's teams did. Many of us may take major issues with how Shaq went about his career, but the respect given to an engaged Shaq when forced to choose the superior team was literally second-to-none.
Oh, also I'll say, because I still remember my teams:
1st ATL: I got 2nd pick, and hence 59th pick. I picked Jordan and Robert Parish. I also was able to swing a deal to acquire Charles Barkley, which I was pretty proud of. I ended up to a team led by Ewing & Isiah, which I still think was ridiculous.
2nd ATL: I got the 16th (last) first round pick, and thus the 17th and 32nd picks. I picked Garnett & Pippen with the first two, and then sung a trade where I gave up Garnett for an additional 2nd round pick and other nice picks, and made another trade along those lines along the way. So it was a team with Pippen, Artis Gilmore, Rick Barry, Steve Nash, Buck Williams, and Walton among others. I was pretty proud of it, but couldn't sell anyone on it. Out in the first round.
Incidentally I still like that team a lot, but my estimation of Garnett has grown since then. I doubt I'd consider trading him today.
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