GT: 12/27 Miami at Sacramento 10:00 PM EST

[King_John]

You are making my OVERALL point, we should be able to win WITHOUT LBJ in some of these games. That's the OFFENSIVE adjustments I have been referring to. We can't/shouldn't just rely on LBJ to have a "monster/balls to the walls" game in order to win.

Just win tonight

this team is way to dependent on LeBron to carry most of the load. Their offense is flat and stagnat most of the time when he is of the floor. I would agree with you that we can win without LeBron but not against top teams like Blazers, Pacers, Spurs, clippers or Thunder.

and that SIR is my point exactly, this staff should have an OFFENSIVE game plan for the weaker teams WITHOUT LBJ or without a dominate lbj. Watching this guy play every night at the level he's playing is ridiculous(IMO), it's not smart/efficient especially after watching 'some of the no names" score and wear him down.

They sould have but they don t . I would have no problem with LeBron sitting out tonight. It just means we ll lose the game.

[WD]

this team is way to dependent on LeBron to carry most of the load. Their offense is flat and stagnat most of the time when he is of the floor. I would agree with you that we can win without LeBron but not against top teams like Blazers, Pacers, Spurs, clippers or Thunder.

and that SIR is my point exactly, this staff should have an OFFENSIVE game plan for the weaker teams WITHOUT LBJ or without a dominate lbj. Watching this guy play every night at the level he's playing is ridiculous(IMO), it's not smart/efficient especially after watching 'some of the no names" score and wear him down.

They sould have but they don t . I would have no problem with LeBron sitting out tonight. It just means we ll lose the game.

We wouldn't necessarily lose, BUT because of his ankle./groin from last night, he shouldn't play..Great time to experiment(well maybe not against portland), but you know what I mean.

[krikor]

for this year, without wade we look worse then we did last 2 years..
I even think last 2 years, at times we played better off without wade. i think lot players like haslem battier ray allen with experience and championships..dont put much energy to this regular season games

[HEAT111]

I believe there's no point for pointing against anyone. A lot of things went wrong for us before overtime. That Chalmers Flagrant was just a regular foul...sucks that Lebron pulled his groin.


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[BoshtimusPrime]

lol are some of you really heat fans? yes it was a foul but flagrant?? never! everytime we talk about Rio we mention the bad things he did but when we need him he plays very well. Yes a loss in overtime hurts but its just the regular season

I concur. I hope Chalmers is a Heater for life.



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[Gwynplaine]

Watching that flagrant one is givin me a headache. Shot clock was down to 2, and bosh blocked isiah Thomas 3. Chalmers is just beyond stupid.

How many brain farts are we gonna ignore?

For Spo, apparently all of them.

He continues to start him ad nauseum and he contnues to cost us games and crucial seeding position, ad nauseum.


Dont blame rio for being (Please Use More Appropriate Word), blame the (Please Use More Appropriate Word) who keeps starting him and logging him heavy minutes.

For what Rio cost in salary you guys sure have a way of picking on one of your best defenders. The guy is .77 in opponents PPP which is best on the team when you factor in minutes.

We pick on him because we watch most of his games unlike a random pacer fan. We have seen him single-handedly costing games like yesterday. Also, you have to be extremely dumb to go by a stat as flawed as opponent PPP and not take into account the system he plays in or the many other factors involved. We are Heat Fans. It's only natural for us to pass judgement and get frustrated when a player does the same thing over and over again. Don't tell us how to do what we do.

[homecourtloss]

I believe there's no point for pointing against anyone. A lot of things went wrong for us before overtime. That Chalmers Flagrant was just a regular foul...sucks that Lebron pulled his groin.


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Though we still should have won, we see from this game how important Birdman is and why he's got such a high WS/48. If he plays, he's most likely grabbing a few boards that turned into second chance points for Cousins. His defense also probably gets us a few more missed shots. With Birdman, even with the royal **** we win. In addition, Ray was out, a Ray who had been hot; Wario and Mason clanked up a lot of threes, some of which Ray would have taken.

Then you have LeBron and his ankle and groin. It's easy for me to complain why he isn't doing X, Y, or Z, but there's always hidden things we don't know about during the game. As a general rule, though, I would like to see is going to him early in the third quarter rather than have him wait 6 minutes to get a shot which will invariably be a long three.

[heatlespeatles]

lol are some of you really heat fans? yes it was a foul but flagrant?? never! everytime we talk about Rio we mention the bad things he did but when we need him he plays very well. Yes a loss in overtime hurts but its just the regular season

I concur. I hope Chalmers is a Heater for life.



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STOP OVERRATING CHALMERS....

[Yaphet Kotto]

lol are some of you really heat fans? yes it was a foul but flagrant?? never! everytime we talk about Rio we mention the bad things he did but when we need him he plays very well. Yes a loss in overtime hurts but its just the regular season

I concur. I hope Chalmers is a Heater for life.



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The sun even shines on a dogs ass some days.

[xMADEinDADEx]

Watching that flagrant one is givin me a headache. Shot clock was down to 2, and bosh blocked isiah Thomas 3. Chalmers is just beyond stupid.

How many brain farts are we gonna ignore?

For Spo, apparently all of them.

He continues to start him ad nauseum and he contnues to cost us games and crucial seeding position, ad nauseum.


Dont blame rio for being (Please Use More Appropriate Word), blame the (Please Use More Appropriate Word) who keeps starting him and logging him heavy minutes.

For what Rio cost in salary you guys sure have a way of picking on one of your best defenders. The guy is .77 in opponents PPP which is best on the team when you factor in minutes.

you do realize that there is no stat in the world, let alone a single one like your precious PPP that dictates how good a defender is right?

we see the games. noones stupid to criticize a player unless they constantly **** up.

[xMADEinDADEx]

For Spo, apparently all of them.

He continues to start him ad nauseum and he contnues to cost us games and crucial seeding position, ad nauseum.


Dont blame rio for being (Please Use More Appropriate Word), blame the (Please Use More Appropriate Word) who keeps starting him and logging him heavy minutes.

For what Rio cost in salary you guys sure have a way of picking on one of your best defenders. The guy is .77 in opponents PPP which is best on the team when you factor in minutes.

We pick on him because we watch most of his games unlike a random pacer fan. We have seen him single-handedly costing games like yesterday. Also, you have to be extremely dumb to go by a stat as flawed as opponent PPP and not take into account the system he plays in or the many other factors involved. We are Heat Fans. It's only natural for us to pass judgement and get frustrated when a player does the same thing over and over again. Don't tell us how to do what we do.

just ignore him man. hes in love with PPP and thinks that dictates how good a defender is because paul george is #1 in it.

[xMADEinDADEx]

lol are some of you really heat fans? yes it was a foul but flagrant?? never! everytime we talk about Rio we mention the bad things he did but when we need him he plays very well. Yes a loss in overtime hurts but its just the regular season

dont you get tired of defending chalmers? this isnt a rare thing. hes been doing stupid **** since his rookie year dude.

[Amorphous Blob]

Lol at other teams fans defending Chalmers we watch his bull on a nightly basis.

[Pacerlive]

For Spo, apparently all of them.

He continues to start him ad nauseum and he contnues to cost us games and crucial seeding position, ad nauseum.


Dont blame rio for being (Please Use More Appropriate Word), blame the (Please Use More Appropriate Word) who keeps starting him and logging him heavy minutes.

For what Rio cost in salary you guys sure have a way of picking on one of your best defenders. The guy is .77 in opponents PPP which is best on the team when you factor in minutes.

We pick on him because we watch most of his games unlike a random pacer fan. We have seen him single-handedly costing games like yesterday. Also, you have to be extremely dumb to go by a stat as flawed as opponent PPP and not take into account the system he plays in or the many other factors involved. We are Heat Fans. It's only natural for us to pass judgement and get frustrated when a player does the same thing over and over again. Don't tell us how to do what we do.

That's just one stat but at 3 mill per year you guys should be thankful he stayed. One foul never cost a game but it was a stupid foul. You guys lost more for the fact you don't defend the three well and a guy like Gay shouldn't get free that easily on the perimeter.

[xMADEinDADEx]

For what Rio cost in salary you guys sure have a way of picking on one of your best defenders. The guy is .77 in opponents PPP which is best on the team when you factor in minutes.

We pick on him because we watch most of his games unlike a random pacer fan. We have seen him single-handedly costing games like yesterday. Also, you have to be extremely dumb to go by a stat as flawed as opponent PPP and not take into account the system he plays in or the many other factors involved. We are Heat Fans. It's only natural for us to pass judgement and get frustrated when a player does the same thing over and over again. Don't tell us how to do what we do.

That's just one stat but at 3 mill per year you guys should be thankful he stayed. One foul never cost a game but it was a stupid foul. You guys lost more for the fact you don't defend the three well and a guy like Gay shouldn't get free that easily on the perimeter.

so how much a guy makes should excuse the brain farts and defensive lapses he makes?

lmao.. just leave man before you get cussed out and you start reporting and whining.

[GreenRiddler]

For Spo, apparently all of them.

He continues to start him ad nauseum and he contnues to cost us games and crucial seeding position, ad nauseum.


Dont blame rio for being (Please Use More Appropriate Word), blame the (Please Use More Appropriate Word) who keeps starting him and logging him heavy minutes.

For what Rio cost in salary you guys sure have a way of picking on one of your best defenders. The guy is .77 in opponents PPP which is best on the team when you factor in minutes.

It's because the miami heat system is too put a lot of pressure on the opponent point guard but as soon as you live Mario in a one and one situation, it's a disaster ! Jeff Teague is a little example .

He is more a shooting guard than a point guard. Yes he had his moments with huge 3 but man in my opinion his mistakes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his good moment

it reminds me of Kobe : The whole game he will be like 4/21 then he hit the last shot and people will completly forget the previous shot and say "SEE HOW HE IS CLUTCH" but i would rather say, they could have won with a huge marge if he was taken care of his shot's selection

Yeah that's when a defensive scheme makes a player look better than he is, Spo traps the hell out of pg's in the PnR, so it askews that number

[MisterHibachi]

Games like these make you really appreciate the rarity of the 27 game win streak last year.

[Gwynplaine]

For what Rio cost in salary you guys sure have a way of picking on one of your best defenders. The guy is .77 in opponents PPP which is best on the team when you factor in minutes.

We pick on him because we watch most of his games unlike a random pacer fan. We have seen him single-handedly costing games like yesterday. Also, you have to be extremely dumb to go by a stat as flawed as opponent PPP and not take into account the system he plays in or the many other factors involved. We are Heat Fans. It's only natural for us to pass judgement and get frustrated when a player does the same thing over and over again. Don't tell us how to do what we do.

That's just one stat but at 3 mill per year you guys should be thankful he stayed. One foul never cost a game but it was a stupid foul. You guys lost more for the fact you don't defend the three well and a guy like Gay shouldn't get free that easily on the perimeter.

One foul??? What about the free throws before that? Like I said.. Stop talking on matters you have no idea about. You'll sound less ret*rded...
We know why we lost. Don't overplay your condescending and annoying act.

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[Gwynplaine]

That's just one stat but at 3 mill per year you guys should be thankful he stayed. One foul never cost a game but it was a stupid foul. You guys lost more for the fact you don't defend the three well and a guy like Gay shouldn't get free that easily on the perimeter.

One foul??? What about the free throws before that? Like I said.. Stop talking on matters you have no idea about. You'll sound less ret*rded...
We know why we lost. Don't overplay your condescending and annoying act.

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Well I guess I was wrong then. Two fouls cost a game. If you don't like condescending remarks perhaps you shouldn't make it so easy. Smh.

Please stop talking like someone who lacks basic comprehension and understanding skills. Finish grade school maybe. I can make even more easier for you if you want. Continue in this manner and you'll know.