Who would you ask for to trade Morris Bros?

[pickaxe]

Just curious. What caliber do you want in return?

[Revived]

I don't think I would trade them unless a really spectacular deal comes along.

Both of them are developing into good players and their the leaders of this young team.

[Ring_Wanted]

I think it's pretty hard to find a trade that leaves Phoenix in a better position if it involves just the twins considering their salary. You can't really make up for the loss of those two in exchange for the combined 4M they make, unless it was another rookie contract or unless you add Okafor (maybe Green, but that would make the hole even bigger).

I think they are proving to be keepers, and certainly are the driving force behind our bench mob, but if I entertained moving them I'd look for one of three (besides the obvious pipedream involving superstars):

Under 29 veterans on bargain contracts. Otherwise, taking on big salary to operate what would probably a marginal improvement is not what the rebuilding Suns need to do. Ideally you incorporate Okafor and look for an upgrade at SF plus something decent at PF (in the mold of a Darrell Arthur, for instance), but It would need to be something really good overall.

'Proven' rookie scale guys that are contributing to winning teams, but this scenario would be the less workable as it would be mostly a lateral move, and probably turned down by both teams.

Rookie scale guys that have too much potential to turn down, assuming the degree of upside down the road justifies what has the potential to be a devastating substraction this season.

In Denver's case, the three players I currently have interest in are Chandler, Arthur and Q.Miller.

I'm no Nuggets expert, but from the outside it seems Faried is an impending contract trouble and his defense is in question. We could really use low post scoring, but JJ Hickson is said to be a very poor defender too, and honestly I'm happy rolling with Miles-Frye-Kieff at PF/C. If Gallo wasn't injuried, I'd really consider him if available, instead of forcing myself to brutally overpay for a Hayward, for instance.

[Qwigglez]

I've said it before, but I'll say it again here, these two guys are gonna be huge for us in the playoffs. We need them off the bench, and I can't see us trading them at all, it just doesn't make much sense.

[rsavaj]

If you asked before the season, I'd say you'd hear a lot of "A BAG OF POTATO CHIPS!" types of responses.

Now, they've suddenly become crucial parts of the team's success, and they're only 24 on good contracts. They are playing out of their minds right now, and I do expect some regression as the season moves forward, but it does look like they could be our backup forwards for the next half-decade or so, if they keep this up.

I'm not going to overstate their trade value, but at this point they might mean more to us than they do to other teams.

[LukasBMW]

If we could package them plus a few picks for a superstar front court player like Kevin Love, I'd make that trade since their time would be cut anyway (with the addition of a superstar 4 or 5).

Otherwise, I want to keep them.

If Plumlee develops into a 16/12 guy (and borderline allstar), and the Bledsoe/Dragic back court keeps kicking ass, then we may not need superstars at the 4 position and the Morris brothers become very valuable with their ability to create mismatches.

And ****, both are capable of a 20/10 game on any given night. If they start to consistently put up those numbers...

As mentioned above, they are a great value at their current contracts. If they improve any more/become more consistent, then you don't want to trade them for anything less then an allstar.

[carey]

I think one cool thing about them right now is that having both of them is an advantage in contract negotiations. I think they'd take less than what they might be worth on the open market separately in order to stay together. I don't think for one moment that that is a tactic McDonough isn't going to exploit in contract negotiations this Summer/Fall.

[Ring_Wanted]

Yeah Carey, I think that's a possible scenario. In contract negotiations one way to balance a team oriented deal could be giving them a trade bonus.

[Gorilla Warfare]

This sounds good...

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mdx8h4k

[Marz11]

wow, people can't just enjoy the team without wanting to trade players away..

[Qwigglez]

If we could get both of em on deals for 18mil/4 years, I'm down.

[No-Man]

Nothing, nobody is going to give a lot for them and unless they command big money they are perfect role players to bring from the bench in a competitive team, they fit with one another and are playing well and they are in rookie contracts.

[michaelphelps]

wow, people can't just enjoy the team without wanting to trade players away..

Everyone is a **** GM on this message board. Guess it comes with the territory.

[carey]

It's called RealGM for a reason. If you want to talk Suns w/ out all the moves and stuff go to BrightSide, there is a whole lot of rah-rah'ing going on over there.

[jcsunsfan]

I don't see the Suns trading the twins. They have become very valuable pieces off the bench and provide stability for this team. Most other teams would try to offer similar players. The Suns roster looks pretty good right now. They just need a lead player, a star. I highly doubt a team is going to offer a star player for a package that includes the Morris twins.

Just like others have said. They are worth more to the Suns than they are to other teams, so they are not likely to be traded unless it is part of a bigger deal.

[INFORMER-93]

I am content with playing this season out without making any moves. And maybe we should just wait until a star becomes available, like Love in 2015.

But if it were up to me I would see if Milwaukee would be interested in salary dumping Ersan Ilyasova. I would try to work a deal offering Emeka Okafor, Dionte Christmas, our second round pick, and the draft rights to Alex Oriakhi for Ersan Ilyasova, Gary Neal, and their 2013 second rounder.

Then I would send Marcus Morris, Markieff Morris, Slava Kravtsov, and the Pacers 1st rounder to Philadelphia for Thaddeus Young and Lavoy Allen.

[Ring_Wanted]

I don't think I'd want to pay Ilyasova and Young a combined $17M.

[carey]

I don't think I'd want to pay Ilyasova and Young a combined $17M.

Agreed. I've cooled considerably on Ily this year. His shooting %'s are horrific and he's not rebounding like he used to either. I don't know if this is just a situation of a good player on a bad team going in the tank or what, but it's alarming.

Young on the other hand I like. Not sure he's the right PF for us, but I do like his game. I wonder what kind of offers he's going to get this Summer.

[SiMan]

They just need a lead player, a star.
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Either Dragič or Bledsoe (or both) should become the "stars" of this team.

[Frank Lee]

I don't think I'd want to pay Ilyasova and Young a combined $17M.

Agreed. I've cooled considerably on Ily this year. His shooting %'s are horrific and he's not rebounding like he used to either. I don't know if this is just a situation of a good player on a bad team going in the tank or what, but it's alarming.

Young on the other hand I like. Not sure he's the right PF for us, but I do like his game. I wonder what kind of offers he's going to get this Summer.

Ersan has been nursing injuries all yr. I thought he'd be perfect here... but not so sure now. Yet, perhaps this is the very best place for him, for health and confidence.

Young is another bidding war in the makings. We don't need another one of those situations.

As far as the MoBros go... no point in even discussing them going anywhere. They have afforded us the luxury of not being desperate for anyone. Great value, and KeifMo has been stepping up as our tough guy. Like that little tangle with Griffin last night.... when he rolled over Hamface going after the loose ball, you could see Griffin kneeing him off as they skirmished. Green jumped in there too... thats the chemistry with an edge we need and don't need to tinker with.