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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#101 » by ReturnofMVP3 » Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:37 pm

If he is disinterested here, he will basically never be welcome on another NBA team again. So if he really wants one last go at a ring just do so here and then retire.
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Post#102 » by RexBoyWonder » Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:46 pm

ReturnofMVP3 wrote:If he is disinterested here, he will basically never be welcome on another NBA team again. So if he really wants one last go at a ring just do so here and then retire.


Got to admit, logically it makes sense.

1) If he acts up here, he's done in the NBA. He knows it too.
2) If he comes here, it's because he wants to compete and win. There's simply no other reason for him to want to come here, he could have made more money staying with the Cavs. And can probably still make more money if he goes to another team now (I doubt we'll offer him more then the vet minimum).

So if he wants to come here for the minimum, you've go to conclude he's serious about winning.

Still not sure his skillset is the best fit here, but even he doesn't fit for basketball reasons, you can just keep him on the bench or cut him altogether, no harm done.

Im starting to warm up to the Bynum idea.
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Post#103 » by RJM » Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:14 pm

I have no problem with Miami becoming the Land of Recovery in addition to the Land of Champions.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#104 » by Chosen01 » Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:29 pm

Bynum is purposely playing dis-interested so Cavs can waive him and Riley can sign him. Afterwards he'll average 9ppg 7.3rpg 1.3bbpg (22mpg), totally neutralizing Hibbert en-route to Miami's 3rd title in a row.


It's all part of Riley's master plan.


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Post#105 » by heatwillbeback » Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:33 pm

Didn't we save the mini lle so we would be able to offer him more than the minimum?
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Post#106 » by Sgt P » Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:49 pm

His combo of size and skill, would be great addition to Heart. It truly would be unfair, for the rest of the league. Just to have spot mins with Hibbert type defenders.

I think he will can be very serviceable on the right team and limited floor time. The Cleveland highligh showed vintage (2 way) post play. So sad that it is a dying skill.

I can't blame him forcing his way out of Cleveland, that franchise is truly dysfunctional and it starts from the top, Dan Gilbert, and no matter who they bring in that will always be the case. Look at our Marlins.
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Post#107 » by heatlespeatles » Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:04 pm

Cavs won't even let us get to sniff him I'm sure...but he would be great here. I don't care about what people say about his heart. Put him on THIS team, he won't lack for heart

its difficult to not be motivated on this team, the media alone will motivate you, add the hate to that..you got enough motivation
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Post#108 » by Mars » Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:13 pm

heatlespeatles wrote:Cavs won't even let us get to sniff him I'm sure...

If the Cavs keep Bynum, trying to Heat-block, they'll be on the hook for an extra 6 mil in salary.

If they trade Bynum, whatever team gets him will immediately turn around and waive him for cap relief; which is the only reason they'd trade for him in the first place.
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Post#109 » by heatlespeatles » Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:31 pm

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heatlespeatles wrote:Cavs won't even let us get to sniff him I'm sure...

If the Cavs keep Bynum, trying to Heat-block, they'll be on the hook for an extra 6 mil in salary.

If they trade Bynum, whatever team gets him will immediately turn around and waive him for cap relief; which is the only reason they'd trade for him in the first place.

you think no team will take the chance on him for 6 mill? I could see OKC doing just that
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Post#110 » by shanedude » Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:50 pm

I trust Riley to do the right thing. But we don't even know If Bynums going to get cut.
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Post#111 » by Mars » Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:56 pm

heatlespeatles wrote:you think no team will take the chance on him for 6 mill? I could see OKC doing just that...

No, I don't. As for OKC, they just don't throw money around like that. They're one of the most salary cap conscious teams in the league. It's why they traded Harden. Presti and Thunder ownership wouldn't invest those millions on Bynum with his questionable knees and equally questionable attitude.

My belief is they'd probably have interest once Bynum gets waived, hedge their bets he could help them, and try to sign him for one of the lower exceptions (LLE or vet minimum).
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Post#112 » by RexBoyWonder » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:04 pm

Very unlikely Cavs keep him after everything that been said. Very.

Don't see who would trade for him either.

90% chance he gets cut next week before the guarantee date (Jan 7) and then he picks his new team, probably a good playoff team.
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Post#113 » by Maroko » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:13 pm

The way i see it : Bynum has a lot of chance to land in Miami (Playing for a great orga and a true chance to win another ring) so i dont see the Cavs cutting him and allowing the Heat to get that big to make them threepeat (even without him but it gives us more chance).
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Post#114 » by puppa bear » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:31 pm

Cavs have to pay him $6m if they cut him before Jan 7, $12m if not. It makes sense for a team with a couple of bloated contracts (eg NY with Amare) to ship out one with a pick to get $6m immediate cap (or tax relief). It doesn't make sense for the Cavs to pay an extra $6m to keep him & prevent him from going to Miami. If they kept him they'd have to keep him suspended & likely have r to buy him out for more than $6m. No competing team has spare contracts they could trade, and/or assets to move a bad contract.

He won't get traded & Cavs would be stupid to keep him on the roster through Jan 7.
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Post#115 » by DayofMourning » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:59 pm

I'm not sure why there's talk that Cleveland would try to block him from Miami. In what world do the Cavs need to make moves to stop us from being successful? They are going to get another high pick in the draft because they are terrible, Bynum is not working on there team, and its pretty obvious Miami is the favorite to win it all again this year. They have no horse in the Miami race.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#116 » by Maroko » Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:01 pm

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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#117 » by DefenseWins » Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:20 pm

Do people realize Bynum just robbed the Cavs?

He played it perfectly, I almost feel bad for them.

Now he sits on his ass, gets suspended, STILL GETS PAID.

He is getting offers now just because of his name. His work ethic is not that of a Heat player imo...

If we get him for vet min, it's worth a shot but nothing more. Someone would also have to be cut... it's either Mason or Oden.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#118 » by RJM » Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:53 pm

Bynum in Oklahoma City would definitely be interesting, but I don't think he'd want to sign with a team in the middle of nowhere as far as markets, beaches and women are concerned. I honestly feel like if released, the only thing keeping him from Miami would be Riley's reluctance to part with the team's LLE. After all, isn't that what the LLE was preserved for in the first place?

Who do we waive? How about the only non-guaranteed deal worth cutting? Roger Mason Jr. How does that make our roster look?

PG - Mario Chalmers/Norris Cole
SG - Dwyane Wade/Ray Allen/James Jones
SF - LeBron James/Shane Battier/Michael Beasley
PF - Chris Bosh/Rashard Lewis/Udonis Haslem
C - Andrew Bynum/Chris Andersen/Greg Oden

If Bynum is signed, someone like Joel Anthony, whom we use to keep our bench warm, can be moved for a wing player that we could get some productive minutes out of when the Wade Maintenance Program kicks back up. Chris Bosh can play the power forward position again, and Greg Oden can continue to develop and rehabilitate his knees. Some say signing Bynum would send a negative message to Oden. I disagree. Oden's a big kid. We're bringing him along slowly because he's a delicate prospect that hasn't played in nearly five years.

Andrew Bynum missed last season but played most of the one prior to it, and despite the knee injuries, has played more than twice as many games and won more than Oden has over his career. Our best scenario has a two-headed monster at the center position with Birdman and Bosh providing agility and finesse. Oden and Bynum, to preserve their knees, won't have to play as much as a team trying to use them as a cornerstone. I think this will work out for the best if Bynum is waived and Miami signs him.

Jordan Crawford is someone that comes to mind.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#119 » by heatwillbeback » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:13 am

If we get him, I don't think he would start for us because he honestly couldn't play our defensive scheme. Bird and bosh are asked to do a lot and do a lot on pick and rolls.

It would be a situational thing only in certain matchups. Like oden is also supposed to be. I think andrew is better than oden though
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#120 » by MisterHibachi » Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:07 am

Our team switched up the pick and roll coverage agains the Pacers. They dropped back, didn't trap. With either Oden or Bynum, that's what we're gonna do.

He would never play for OKC, notice how he only wants to play for Miami and LA. They got something in common other than title contention.
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