Kings v Spurs (12-29-13)

SacKingsPejaFan · Post #1 » by **SacKingsPejaFan** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:48 am

87-81 Kings after 3.

Thomas has 4 threes, 8 assists, 0 turnovers. Cousins and Gay both have 20+ shooting 50%. The defense has been great. They are really annoying the Spurs. Let's see if they can hold on for 12 more minutes.

Post #2 » by **KF10** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:00 am

Love that smooth "drive and pull up" from Rudy.

ADoaN17 · Post #3 » by **ADoaN17** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:16 am

Thompson is useless.

SacKingsPejaFan · Post #4 » by **SacKingsPejaFan** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:18 am

Well, out-executed in the clutch. That's the game.

HUBlackstar83 · Post #5 » by **HUBlackstar83** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:24 am

I'm not even mad though really. It's the Spurs, what can you do? *shrugs

HUBlackstar83 · Post #6 » by **HUBlackstar83** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:25 am

ADoaN17 wrote:Thompson is useless.

Scratching my head why JT was out there instead of D-Will

nolimit0820 · Post #7 » by **nolimit0820** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:31 am

watching thompson out there is frustrating!

Could not get it done on the defensive end in the final 4-5 minutes. Transition D led to lay ups or open 3s. Rotations slow to shooters. Gave up a couple of offensive rebounds. A great effort and a chance at a great win (and even better 2 game stretch) reduced to a great effort and the same result. Overall, I was pleased. The Spurs really tightened up on D and the kings were on their heels.

SacKingZZZ · Post #8 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:39 am

Yeah, this team needs to find the right SG and PF for this team. JT did alright in this one but like with McLemore, probably better to find the right type of player that fills your needs.

If this team can't trade for the right SG maybe they should look at Terrance Williams. McLemore is way beyond him as a talent but if you're going to have a 4 shot per game SG, might as well get one that doesn't have to learn to play D first. Could probably use Bens scoring off the bench too. That and backup PG are major holes right now.

Website · Post #9 » by **Nicky Nix Nook** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:38 am

JT rebounded well tonight and I suspect that's why he was in instead of DWill at the end, but he gives me so many headaches, I swear.

blind prophet · Post #10 » by **blind prophet** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:14 am

Really could go with a 4 or 5 to replace JT. Cuz can play both, so we should have some options out there.

enderwilson · Post #11 » by **enderwilson** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:16 am

I'm pleased with Cuz in having become a consistent 20-10 beast. The addition of Gay is also helping with the scoring load. However there is a HUGE drop off in contribution after Demarcus, Rudy and Isaiah. I was hoping that DWill and McLemore would be able to add something but their contributions are so inconsistent.

Kings2013 · Post #12 » by **Kings2013** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:47 am

Ben has been terrible... Some thought he would garner ROY consideration this year...

Post #13 » by **ICMTM** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:33 pm

SacKingsPejaFan wrote:87-81 Kings after 3.

Thomas has 4 threes, 8 assists, 0 turnovers. Cousins and Gay both have 20+ shooting 50%. The defense has been great. They are really annoying the Spurs. Let's see if they can hold on for 12 more minutes.

Yeah the defense wasn't great! The Kings played entertaining ball last night, and it was fun to watch. Giving up 27 per quarter means the other team is scoring the ball just fine though.

SacKingZZZ · Post #14 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:48 pm

enderwilson wrote:I'm pleased with Cuz in having become a consistent 20-10 beast. The addition of Gay is also helping with the scoring load. However there is a HUGE drop off in contribution after Demarcus, Rudy and Isaiah. I was hoping that DWill and McLemore would be able to add something but their contributions are so inconsistent.

I would really like to see DWill get major minutes and time with the starters. I don't know if he'll fit any better but it's worth a shot just to see. It's hard to take a player like Ben McLemore and ask him to basically be the most un-rookie type of role playing defensive spot shooter. That's what they need and are trying to turn him into. Just not his game right now. Might even stunt his growth as a player.

SacKingZZZ · Post #15 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:51 pm

Kings2013 wrote:Ben has been terrible... Some thought he would garner ROY consideration this year...

How can you really expect him to succeed in that way with the role he has? It's like with Hickson, oh he was just a terrible player right? Wrong, better situation/minutes and he returns. Ben is raw on top of being a rookie, but you can't get ROY being a wing defending role player and you will look terrible when that isn't even your game to begin with.

Kings2013 · Post #16 » by **Kings2013** » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:38 am

SacKingZZZ wrote:
Kings2013 wrote:Ben has been terrible... Some thought he would garner ROY consideration this year...

How can you really expect him to succeed in that way with the role he has? It's like with Hickson, oh he was just a terrible player right? Wrong, better situation/minutes and he returns. Ben is raw on top of being a rookie, but you can't get ROY being a wing defending role player and you will look terrible when that isn't even your game to begin with.

I'm talking about sports writers on major sites that had him in contention for that award

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bas ... redictions

I never personally expected it because he was indeed very raw leading up to the season. He has however not looked good so far.

perezident · Post #17 » by **perezident** » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:37 am

Ben was horrid on defense....play after play dudes were burning threes in his face

I need this guy to be more aggressive!!! He's not even hitting those shots with any consistency!

bibby1023 · Post #18 » by **bibby1023** » Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:14 am

perezident wrote:Ben was horrid on defense....play after play dudes were burning threes in his face

I need this guy to be more aggressive!!! He's not even hitting those shots with any consistency!

technically, if they were in his face then he was playing good defense, they just happened to hit them in his face.

perezident · Post #19 » by **perezident** » Tue Dec 31, 2013 11:36 am

bibby1023 wrote:
perezident wrote:Ben was horrid on defense....play after play dudes were burning threes in his face

I need this guy to be more aggressive!!! He's not even hitting those shots with any consistency!

technically, if they were in his face then he was playing good defense, they just happened to hit them in his face.

Technically nothing!! In his face meaning those guys pulled up for the shot while he was in no mans land then with a two second delay he tried to contest the shot. Hence clearly he was on playing ANY defense. "Just happened to hit them" would indicate that he was all over them and they just hit a lucky shot -- that's all I'm saying.

SacKingZZZ · Post #20 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Wed Jan 1, 2014 12:07 am

Kings2013 wrote:
SacKingZZZ wrote:
Kings2013 wrote:Ben has been terrible... Some thought he would garner ROY consideration this year...

How can you really expect him to succeed in that way with the role he has? It's like with Hickson, oh he was just a terrible player right? Wrong, better situation/minutes and he returns. Ben is raw on top of being a rookie, but you can't get ROY being a wing defending role player and you will look terrible when that isn't even your game to begin with.

I'm talking about sports writers on major sites that had him in contention for that award

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bas ... redictions

I never personally expected it because he was indeed very raw leading up to the season. He has however not looked good so far.

I was speaking more so about the overall perception of him. It's not a coincidence that when he's looked "good", he was taking more than 3 shots in the game.