2014 Official Suns Free Agent/Trade/Transaction Thread

[Son of Ra]

What do you guys thnk about taking a flyer on Brandon rush and offer a 2nd round pick? I really wanted him on the suns pre-injury at golden state but haven't seen him play ever since tbh. Just noticed that he can't get on the floor in utah.

Another player I would offer a 2nd rounder for would be marshon brooks. Boston seems to have no plans for him and I thought he looked interesting in his rookie season but again, haven't seen him play since.

[jcsunsfan]

What do you guys thnk about taking a flyer on Brandon rush and offer a 2nd round pick? I really wanted him on the suns pre-injury at golden state but haven't seen him play ever since tbh. Just noticed that he can't get on the floor in utah.

Another player I would offer a 2nd rounder for would be marshon brooks. Boston seems to have no plans for him and I thought he looked interesting in his rookie season but again, haven't seen him play since.

I am only interested in a star pf or sf at this point. Lesser players, bench players etc, will only disrupt chemistry. I like what we are bringing off the bench and do see any point in messing with it. Everyone is sliding into a comfortable role.

[Wannabe MEP]

The only thing frye and hawes have in common is they are tall and shoot threes. Spencer has a much more polished back to the basket game, his passing is far superior and general over all basketball IQ is much higher.

By the numbers, Frye has FAR superior offensive impact compared to Hawes (offensive RAPM, OffRtg, being part of elite offensive lineups, etc.). It's not even close.

Now, Hawes hasn't historically shot threes like he is this year, so it's possible that his numbers will rise to match. But so far we're not seeing much evidence of that in the data yet.

Back to the basket is simply not efficient basketball unless you have a truly elite post player, which Hawes isn't. Either Frye or Hawes can take advantage of a switch, and that's pretty much the extent of value for a post-up game for them.

[Ryu]

What do you guys thnk about taking a flyer on Brandon rush and offer a 2nd round pick? I really wanted him on the suns pre-injury at golden state but haven't seen him play ever since tbh. Just noticed that he can't get on the floor in utah.

Another player I would offer a 2nd rounder for would be marshon brooks. Boston seems to have no plans for him and I thought he looked interesting in his rookie season but again, haven't seen him play since.

I am only interested in a star pf or sf at this point. Lesser players, bench players etc, will only disrupt chemistry. I like what we are bringing off the bench and do see any point in messing with it. Everyone is sliding into a comfortable role.

What jcsunsfan says.

Gerald Green is doing just fine in backup SG role.

[Barkley_34]

What do you guys thnk about taking a flyer on Brandon rush and offer a 2nd round pick? I really wanted him on the suns pre-injury at golden state but haven't seen him play ever since tbh. Just noticed that he can't get on the floor in utah.

Another player I would offer a 2nd rounder for would be marshon brooks. Boston seems to have no plans for him and I thought he looked interesting in his rookie season but again, haven't seen him play since.

I am only interested in a star pf or sf at this point. Lesser players, bench players etc, will only disrupt chemistry. I like what we are bringing off the bench and do see any point in messing with it. Everyone is sliding into a comfortable role.

[rsavaj]

I know you guys aren't fans of him, but if the Lakers are serious about tanking, I could see McD trading Okafor for Pau Gasol straight up. The Lakers shed close to $5mil in incoming salaries, which means they save $10mil in luxury tax I believe.
Anyway, Gasol is lethal on the block, can face up and attack the basket, and hit the mid range jumper. His career numbers shooting wise, is around 52%, and while he is only shooting 45% this year I believe it has to do with D'Antoni not utilizing him very well, plus having to carry the team, basically. Just a thought, I wouldn't mind starting the year off with another steal from LA.

D'Antoni is utilizing Gasol just fine...he's getting the ball in the post more than Duncan, Aldridge, etc. He's just not converting. Dude has fallen off a cliff.

If all it takes is Okafor, than sure, but that's all I'd be willing to give up for him.

[INFORMER-93]

What do you guys thnk about taking a flyer on Brandon rush and offer a 2nd round pick? I really wanted him on the suns pre-injury at golden state but haven't seen him play ever since tbh. Just noticed that he can't get on the floor in utah.

Another player I would offer a 2nd rounder for would be marshon brooks. Boston seems to have no plans for him and I thought he looked interesting in his rookie season but again, haven't seen him play since.

Wait until the offseason to pursue them as free agents.

[bwgood77]

What do you guys thnk about taking a flyer on Brandon rush and offer a 2nd round pick? I really wanted him on the suns pre-injury at golden state but haven't seen him play ever since tbh. Just noticed that he can't get on the floor in utah.

Another player I would offer a 2nd rounder for would be marshon brooks. Boston seems to have no plans for him and I thought he looked interesting in his rookie season but again, haven't seen him play since.

I think that's a great idea and I've mentioned going after him recently and in the past. He is exactly the type of player we could use to play with Dragic or Bledsoe when one of them sets. Or even play when Tucker sits. Obviously we have Green too, but Rush is definitely a guy that would cost little and could definitely fit into our long term plans. If we could just get him with a second round pick, I don't see much downside unless there is some major free agent we expect to get with that cap space.

No on Brooks. He sucks.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Rumors are Chicago wants to extend Deng. I still think he might get traded or leave as a fa. But if he does stay I wonder if jimmy butler would be available. Both are best at sf and butler will need an extension soon so they might be down to deal him. I'd be cool trading a couple of 1sts for butler. He'd be an excellent long term solution at the 3. A guy like him would help in building a defense that can win in the post season.

IMO this would be an offseason move. No way they deal him before locking up Deng. Chicago might be open to do this because the could use the young cheap depth to build around their high dollar guys.


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[NTB]

Rumors are Chicago wants to extend Deng. I still think he might get traded or leave as a fa. But if he does stay I wonder if jimmy butler would be available. Both are best at sf and butler will need an extension soon so they might be down to deal him. I'd be cool trading a couple of 1sts for butler. He'd be an excellent long term solution at the 3. A guy like him would help in building a defense that can win in the post season.

IMO this would be an offseason move. No way they deal him before locking up Deng. Chicago might be open to do this because the could use the young cheap depth to build around their high dollar guys.


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I think Bulls are gonna build the team around Butler and Noah.But idk.Anyways, still good idea.

[No-Man]

Right now they are working very well together, but if Phoenix ends up getting another star, and that should be the way, should the Suns trade Dragic to maximize Bledsoe potential with a regular SG next to him?
And yeah, I'm thinking of an Afflalo-Dragic swap.

[DirtyDez]

Right now they are working very well together, but if Phoenix ends up getting another star, and that should be the way, should the Suns trade Dragic to maximize Bledsoe potential with a regular SG next to him?
And yeah, I'm thinking of an Afflalo-Dragic swap.

I love Eric Bledsoe's future but I'd trade him in a 3-way for Love. Same with Dragic.

I don't think a bunch of picks in the mid-late teens is getting him over Blake Griffin...

[bwgood77]

Right now they are working very well together, but if Phoenix ends up getting another star, and that should be the way, should the Suns trade Dragic to maximize Bledsoe potential with a regular SG next to him?
And yeah, I'm thinking of an Afflalo-Dragic swap.

I doubt you will find anyone willing to trade Dragic. Now if Bledsoe wants the max and Orlando wants him? I think it would be more likely people would be on board with trading Bledsoe for Afflalo and something else as opposed to matching a max offer.

The team is much better with Dragic on the floor than with Bledsoe on the floor.

But I don't think anyone really wants to mess with what we have right now.

[INFORMER-93]

No on Brooks. He sucks.

Actually, he doesn't.

[Frank Lee]

Would anyone trade Bledsoe for a top 5 pick on draft day?
I'm just hoping we don't get a snag up in $$ with Bled. Keep it all reasonable, and just hope no one gives Lowry 10mill+.

[DirtyDez]

Would anyone trade Bledsoe for a top 5 pick on draft day?
I'm just hoping we don't get a snag up in $$ with Bled. Keep it all reasonable, and just hope no one gives Lowry 10mill+.

Nobody is trading their pick this year in the top-5. Especially for an RFA it's just bad value.

[carey]

Would anyone trade Bledsoe for a top 5 pick on draft day?
I'm just hoping we don't get a snag up in $$ with Bled. Keep it all reasonable, and just hope no one gives Lowry 10mill+.

Yes. :p

[Son of Ra]

What do you guys thnk about taking a flyer on Brandon rush and offer a 2nd round pick? I really wanted him on the suns pre-injury at golden state but haven't seen him play ever since tbh. Just noticed that he can't get on the floor in utah.

Another player I would offer a 2nd rounder for would be marshon brooks. Boston seems to have no plans for him and I thought he looked interesting in his rookie season but again, haven't seen him play since.

I am only interested in a star pf or sf at this point. Lesser players, bench players etc, will only disrupt chemistry. I like what we are bringing off the bench and do see any point in messing with it. Everyone is sliding into a comfortable role.

I think that's a great idea and I've mentioned going after him recently and in the past. He is exactly the type of player we could use to play with Dragic or Bledsoe when one of them sets. Or even play when Tucker sits. Obviously we have Green too, but Rush is definitely a guy that would cost little and could definitely fit into our long term plans. If we could just get him with a second round pick, I don't see much downside unless there is some major free agent we expect to get with that cap space.

No on Brooks. He sucks.

While I totally agree that we need a star player, a deep bench is the other half of the equation. No team has ever won with just a star player and I don't think we are just one star away from winning it all, so improving our bench is equally important imho. We also have to be able to compensate one or two players going into a slump/be injured for a while and I don't think Smith or Christmas or players of their caliber are gonna be able to do that.
I don't think there is a FA available that will make us an instant contender so our star will most likely land here via trade which will include some of our players as well. That means our chemistry will get disrupted no matter what so we will have to integrate new players at one point so we might as well do it now before we are ready to contend.

I didn't know that he would be a FAs after this season but I would still offer a second rounder for Rush now (especially since we have so many first rounders) to basically test him out for the rest of the season and then know if we wanna sign him long term.
Our playing style is so dependent on the three ball that having someone else shooting at a high rate and taking threes away from Dragic would hugely benefit us. I am very happy with how Green has performed so far, but I am still not convinced that he will be able to keep it up longterm. Rush has shot the three at a very good, and the last two seasons even impressive percentage.

@Brooks: Ok I can see that he didn't turn out to be good, like I said I watched him a bit in his rookie season and thought he was interesting and could have potential.

[bwgood77]

Would anyone trade Bledsoe for a top 5 pick on draft day?
I'm just hoping we don't get a snag up in $$ with Bled. Keep it all reasonable, and just hope no one gives Lowry 10mill+.

Well it would be more complicated than that, because we would have to take back salary. This is a tough question though, and it really depends on how these freshman play this year. If it looks like you could get Wiggins or Parker or whoever and they look like can't miss prospects (and by that I mean, future superstars) it would be tough to pass up.

But I tend to think these guys are currently overhyped quite a bit. As a matter of fact, I have a feeling some other gems in this draft may go under the radar simply because everyone is so focused on the guys at the top.

I really like Bledsoe, but I'm not sure how much I will like him if he is making max money. My expectations will be VERY high at that point. But I can't see anyone offering a top 5 pick for him. It doesn't make much sense when I think it through. It makes a little sense for Milwaukee if they had like the 5th pick and could give us Knight and filler, but that is it. They would be interesting with Bledsoe, Mayo, the Greek, Henson and Sanders. Only reason they might do it is because the owner is old and wants to compete now...otherwise it might make more sense for them to take Exum or Smart (which is the case for the rest of the teams)...even competitive teams like Atlanta and Denver who might luck out and get a top 3 pick because they own the Brooklyn/NY picks, already have really good pgs, so they would definitely without a doubt rather have Wiggins, Parker, Embiid or Randle.

[bwgood77]

No on Brooks. He sucks.

Actually, he doesn't.

With a little more thought, I wouldn't mind giving up a 2nd rounder for a guy like him, because with our coaching staff, they might be able to get the most out of him, but this goes for anyone. So pretty much what I am saying is I trust the front office and coaching staff...if they see good things in a player and think they can fit in with what we have, I'm all for it...if they don't think a guy will fit in, I'm behind that too.