Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread

[Marty McFly]

Just out of curiosity, would the Knicks be willing to s+t Melo to get something back for him if there is no future there? And, if so, would the Raptors be good trading partners?

Something like Derozan + our 2014 pick + Chuck Hayes? Or something like that?

one, i think in order for the knicks to part with him in an s&t it would probably require not only for him to agree to go to toronto, but that the knicks think they're justly compensated, so unless it ends up being a top 3 lotto pick i have a tough time thinking that'll do, even if i think derozan is a nice player. secondly, i don't think masai would deal for melo if he landed a top 3 pick. anyone of embiid parker and wiggins could fit the youth movement there like a glove.

[Boarder Patrol]

Just out of curiosity, would the Knicks be willing to s+t Melo to get something back for him if there is no future there? And, if so, would the Raptors be good trading partners?

Something like Derozan + our 2014 pick + Chuck Hayes? Or something like that?

Absolutely. If Melo were to look to be walking for nothing, I'd definitely sign and trade. I'd ask for Val but if it's a S&T that's probably a bit much of an asking price. That package works but I'd ask for our 2014 or 2017 2nd back too.

Oh, and if you're a Raps fan, you guys want Bargs back?

[Marty McFly]

Just out of curiosity, would the Knicks be willing to s+t Melo to get something back for him if there is no future there? And, if so, would the Raptors be good trading partners?

Something like Derozan + our 2014 pick + Chuck Hayes? Or something like that?

Absolutely. If Melo were to look to be walking for nothing, I'd definitely sign and trade. I'd ask for Val but if it's a S&T that's probably a bit much of an asking price. That package works but I'd ask for our 2014 or 2017 2nd back too.

Oh, and if you're a Raps fan, you guys want Bargs back?

they don't have the 2014. i believe they have the lesser of the pick swap with the nuggets from the melo trade in 2016.

[Boarder Patrol]

Just out of curiosity, would the Knicks be willing to s+t Melo to get something back for him if there is no future there? And, if so, would the Raptors be good trading partners?

Something like Derozan + our 2014 pick + Chuck Hayes? Or something like that?

Absolutely. If Melo were to look to be walking for nothing, I'd definitely sign and trade. I'd ask for Val but if it's a S&T that's probably a bit much of an asking price. That package works but I'd ask for our 2014 or 2017 2nd back too.

Oh, and if you're a Raps fan, you guys want Bargs back?

they don't have the 2014. i believe they have the lesser of the pick swap with the nuggets from the melo trade in 2016.

Oh, I thought the deal for Bargs was the lesser 1st of the 2016 pick swap, and then second round picks in 2014 and 2017.

It feels weird listing the picks you traded for Bargs.

[Marty McFly]

Absolutely. If Melo were to look to be walking for nothing, I'd definitely sign and trade. I'd ask for Val but if it's a S&T that's probably a bit much of an asking price. That package works but I'd ask for our 2014 or 2017 2nd back too.

Oh, and if you're a Raps fan, you guys want Bargs back?

they don't have the 2014. i believe they have the lesser of the pick swap with the nuggets from the melo trade in 2016.

Oh, I thought the deal for Bargs was the lesser 1st of the 2016 pick swap, and then second round picks in 2014 and 2017.

It feels weird listing the picks you traded for Bargs.

you're probably right, but i thought you meant the 2014 first. i know i don't ever want to listen about our picks getting traded for anyone.

[Hendrix]

one, i think in order for the knicks to part with him in an s&t it would probably require not only for him to agree to go to toronto, but that the knicks think they're justly compensated, so unless it ends up being a top 3 lotto pick i have a tough time thinking that'll do, even if i think derozan is a nice player. secondly, i don't think masai would deal for melo if he landed a top 3 pick. anyone of embiid parker and wiggins could fit the youth movement there like a glove.

Getting him to agree to go to Toronto would be the major hurdle I think as it seems like the type that wants to be in a major market like NYC, LA, or Chicago. However, I honestly think he'd be a pretty perfect fit, so if he could be convince of that, and we through the most money at him maybe he would agree? Maybe Drake could help convince him? lol.

You would only do it for a top 3 pick? I agree with you that if Masai had a top 3 pick he wouldn't do it. I just figured if Melo was going to leave anyways, maybe you guys would want some young dudes like Derozan and a mid 1st rounder in a nice draft (which it seems like the Raps will end up).

Absolutely. If Melo were to look to be walking for nothing, I'd definitely sign and trade. I'd ask for Val but if it's a S&T that's probably a bit much of an asking price. That package works but I'd ask for our 2014 or 2017 2nd back too.

Oh, and if you're a Raps fan, you guys want Bargs back?

I have no idea what is going on with the picks either, and I think I've 'done my time' as far as having to watch Bargs thank, lol.

[shmeakone]

Really need to trade for Andre Miller. Especially a disgruntled one, the Nuggets would probably trade him for cheap.

[DowNY]

Really need to trade for Andre Miller. Especially a disgruntled one, the Nuggets would probably trade him for cheap.

They can have Felton back

[shmeakone]

@WojYahooNBA 3m

Y! Sources (w/ @SpearsNBAYahoo) Warriors, Kings consider pitches for suspended Denver guard Andre Miller. http://yhoo.it/1cMjHT4

WELP

[BrownBearKing]

Trade Shump now! His value can't get any higher!!!

[xNewYorkMadex]

I really doubt Detroit would have any interest, but a Jr Smith + Bargnani and 1st rounder for Josh Smith would be great for us.

The Pistons (I believe) were interested in Jr Smith when he was a free agent. Josh Smith has been a total bust thus far. The Drummond-Monroe-Smith starting lineup isnt working at all, acquiring Jr gives them the spacing that they need. And gives them salary relief with Bargnani expiring next season.

For us, gives us an elite defender in J-Smoove and can play him at his natural PF position. Again, not saying the Pistons will do it, but its a deal I would love for us.

[Mars_Blackmon]

Nuggets- Metta World Peace, Beno Udrih, Cole Aldrich, Andrea Bargnani and 2018 1st Round Pick
Knicks- Danilo Gallinari and Andre Miller

Nuggets keep cap relief a year earlier than expect with Bargs deal ending before Gallo's, they get some vets in Metta and Beno and a big in Cole plus a future pick

Knicks get a much needed vet and Gallo who can start at the 3 when healthy and Melo can play the 4. Gallo is a better fit and better overall play than Bargs as well

Felton/Prigioni
Shumpert/Miller/Hardaway
Gallinari/Smith
Anthony/Stoudemire
Chandler/Martin/Tyler

however with Gallo hurt we go

Felton
Shumpert
Anthony
Martin
Chandler

as the starters

[Meat]

Nuggets- Metta World Peace, Beno Udrih, Cole Aldrich, Andrea Bargnani and 2018 1st Round Pick
Knicks- Danilo Gallinari and Andre Miller

Nuggets keep cap relief a year earlier than expect with Bargs deal ending before Gallo's, they get some vets in Metta and Beno and a big in Cole plus a future pick

Knicks get a much needed vet and Gallo who can start at the 3 when healthy and Melo can play the 4. Gallo is a better fit and better overall play than Bargs as well

Felton/Prigioni
Shumpert/Miller/Hardaway
Gallinari/Smith
Anthony/Stoudemire
Chandler/Martin/Tyler

however with Gallo hurt we go

Felton
Shumpert
Anthony
Martin
Chandler

as the starters

[flyingvee]

Sorry guys, but as a native New Yorker even I can't believe some of the trade proposals you guys are throwing out there, and NY is supposed to be the most basketball savy city in the league. You expect the Warriors to trade their core for Carmelo? The verdict is still out on Carmelo being able to lead, but he can't do it with this supporting cast. And to this day I still can't believe the man-love everyone still has for Amare. He's the main reason this team is in the situation it is. And to hear even to this day how most of you still say Amare is better than David Lee. NOt only the 18/10 that Lee gives you, but he's also a great passer and he hustles. SO his D is not great but neither is Amare, and most important Amare has been so hurt he's a non-factor. But you guys wanted Amare and Carmelo, now deal with it. Carmelo sees the sinking ship and wants out. If he could, he would run off and join the other vag's in Miami so he can get an easy ring, after all, thats the way of the modern NBA player, they don't want to earn a ring, they want to rid eon others coat-tails to do it. But thats another story.

Don't get me wrong, always been a Knicks fan, but we have not done a smart thing in ages, started by trading Ewing to Seattle and bringing back more washed up garbage in return.

Should have amnestied Amare, not Billups, and we'd not be in this sinking ship now. And now that the cats out of the bag, Carmelo has to go, it will be poison like it was in Denver. And Carmelo will only want to go to Chicago or LA or Miami. The Lakers have nothing, I'd swap Gasol for Amare, good for us. The Clippers wont trade Griffin who is a fan favorite for Carmelo. Miami? Bosh and parts? The Rockets would be a good fit for Carmelo, playing with Harden and Dwight, but what can they give in return other than Asik? Lin and Parsons? Would have to be some sort of crazy 3 or 4 team trade I figure. Something involving Gasol and Asik? Something to get Carmelo to LA, Gasol to Houston where he would be a factor next to Dwight and they give up Asik which is wasted space now, the thing is who is the 4th partner the Knicks can flip Asik to? And you gotta figure that either Bargs or Amare has to get thrown in the deal. The Lakers would be willing to do this to get Carmelo in LA.

Fire away

[Meat]

anyone got some cliff's notes

[WhyISO]

Melo to Toronto?
My gosh, NYK fans really are at a point of no return.

[Johnny Hoops]

@WojYahooNBA 3m

Y! Sources (w/ @SpearsNBAYahoo) Warriors, Kings consider pitches for suspended Denver guard Andre Miller. http://yhoo.it/1cMjHT4

WELP

Don't see Nugget's dealing with Warrior's only to have Andre come back and kill them in the playoffs.

Kings are another matter.

[Johnny Hoops]

Sorry guys, but as a native New Yorker even I can't believe some of the trade proposals you guys are throwing out there, and NY is supposed to be the most basketball savy city in the league. You expect the Warriors to trade their core for Carmelo? The verdict is still out on Carmelo being able to lead, but he can't do it with this supporting cast. And to this day I still can't believe the man-love everyone still has for Amare. He's the main reason this team is in the situation it is. And to hear even to this day how most of you still say Amare is better than David Lee. NOt only the 18/10 that Lee gives you, but he's also a great passer and he hustles. SO his D is not great but neither is Amare, and most important Amare has been so hurt he's a non-factor. But you guys wanted Amare and Carmelo, now deal with it. Carmelo sees the sinking ship and wants out. If he could, he would run off and join the other vag's in Miami so he can get an easy ring, after all, thats the way of the modern NBA player, they don't want to earn a ring, they want to rid eon others coat-tails to do it. But thats another story.

Don't get me wrong, always been a Knicks fan, but we have not done a smart thing in ages, started by trading Ewing to Seattle and bringing back more washed up garbage in return.

Should have amnestied Amare, not Billups, and we'd not be in this sinking ship now. And now that the cats out of the bag, Carmelo has to go, it will be poison like it was in Denver. And Carmelo will only want to go to Chicago or LA or Miami. The Lakers have nothing, I'd swap Gasol for Amare, good for us. The Clippers wont trade Griffin who is a fan favorite for Carmelo. Miami? Bosh and parts? The Rockets would be a good fit for Carmelo, playing with Harden and Dwight, but what can they give in return other than Asik? Lin and Parsons? Would have to be some sort of crazy 3 or 4 team trade I figure. Something involving Gasol and Asik? Something to get Carmelo to LA, Gasol to Houston where he would be a factor next to Dwight and they give up Asik which is wasted space now, the thing is who is the 4th partner the Knicks can flip Asik to? And you gotta figure that either Bargs or Amare has to get thrown in the deal. The Lakers would be willing to do this to get Carmelo in LA.

Fire away

Keep in mind - NY is a gigantic city with Millions of Knicks fans and they aren't all basketball savvy. Some of the guys posting on here might be 14 years old for all we know.

In any event -- we like most fans do tend to overrate our own players.

I do think the Clips would consider BLAKE for MELO --- it will likely depend on whether CP3 and DOC believe Blake can get them to the promise land. I tend to think they believe Blake (like Amare) needs CP3 to make him play great (this requires tremendous effort/energy on CP3's part every night). With Melo --- he could take some of the creativity burden off CP3 so that he has energy coming down the stretch of games. Right now Paul is having to both score/create a great deal.

The Clippers remain the primary destination in my mind if Melo tries to force a trade.

[Meat]

Sorry guys, but as a native New Yorker even I can't believe some of the trade proposals you guys are throwing out there, and NY is supposed to be the most basketball savy city in the league. You expect the Warriors to trade their core for Carmelo? The verdict is still out on Carmelo being able to lead, but he can't do it with this supporting cast. And to this day I still can't believe the man-love everyone still has for Amare. He's the main reason this team is in the situation it is. And to hear even to this day how most of you still say Amare is better than David Lee. NOt only the 18/10 that Lee gives you, but he's also a great passer and he hustles. SO his D is not great but neither is Amare, and most important Amare has been so hurt he's a non-factor. But you guys wanted Amare and Carmelo, now deal with it. Carmelo sees the sinking ship and wants out. If he could, he would run off and join the other vag's in Miami so he can get an easy ring, after all, thats the way of the modern NBA player, they don't want to earn a ring, they want to rid eon others coat-tails to do it. But thats another story.

Don't get me wrong, always been a Knicks fan, but we have not done a smart thing in ages, started by trading Ewing to Seattle and bringing back more washed up garbage in return.

Should have amnestied Amare, not Billups, and we'd not be in this sinking ship now. And now that the cats out of the bag, Carmelo has to go, it will be poison like it was in Denver. And Carmelo will only want to go to Chicago or LA or Miami. The Lakers have nothing, I'd swap Gasol for Amare, good for us. The Clippers wont trade Griffin who is a fan favorite for Carmelo. Miami? Bosh and parts? The Rockets would be a good fit for Carmelo, playing with Harden and Dwight, but what can they give in return other than Asik? Lin and Parsons? Would have to be some sort of crazy 3 or 4 team trade I figure. Something involving Gasol and Asik? Something to get Carmelo to LA, Gasol to Houston where he would be a factor next to Dwight and they give up Asik which is wasted space now, the thing is who is the 4th partner the Knicks can flip Asik to? And you gotta figure that either Bargs or Amare has to get thrown in the deal. The Lakers would be willing to do this to get Carmelo in LA.

Fire away

Keep in mind - NY is a gigantic city with Millions of Knicks fans and they aren't all basketball savvy. Some of the guys posting on here might be 14 years old for all we know.

In any event -- we like most fans do tend to overrate our own players.

I do think the Clips would consider BLAKE for MELO --- it will likely depend on whether CP3 and DOC believe Blake can get them to the promise land. I tend to think they believe Blake (like Amare) needs CP3 to make him play great (this requires tremendous effort/energy on CP3's part every night). With Melo --- he could take some of the creativity burden off CP3 so that he has energy coming down the stretch of games. Right now Paul is having to both score/create a great deal.

The Clippers remain the primary destination in my mind if Melo tries to force a trade.

they get bounced early and i think they would do the trade in a hearbeat

[Mars_Blackmon]

Sorry guys, but as a native New Yorker even I can't believe some of the trade proposals you guys are throwing out there, and NY is supposed to be the most basketball savy city in the league. You expect the Warriors to trade their core for Carmelo? The verdict is still out on Carmelo being able to lead, but he can't do it with this supporting cast. And to this day I still can't believe the man-love everyone still has for Amare. He's the main reason this team is in the situation it is. And to hear even to this day how most of you still say Amare is better than David Lee. NOt only the 18/10 that Lee gives you, but he's also a great passer and he hustles. SO his D is not great but neither is Amare, and most important Amare has been so hurt he's a non-factor. But you guys wanted Amare and Carmelo, now deal with it. Carmelo sees the sinking ship and wants out. If he could, he would run off and join the other vag's in Miami so he can get an easy ring, after all, thats the way of the modern NBA player, they don't want to earn a ring, they want to rid eon others coat-tails to do it. But thats another story.

Don't get me wrong, always been a Knicks fan, but we have not done a smart thing in ages, started by trading Ewing to Seattle and bringing back more washed up garbage in return.

Should have amnestied Amare, not Billups, and we'd not be in this sinking ship now. And now that the cats out of the bag, Carmelo has to go, it will be poison like it was in Denver. And Carmelo will only want to go to Chicago or LA or Miami. The Lakers have nothing, I'd swap Gasol for Amare, good for us. The Clippers wont trade Griffin who is a fan favorite for Carmelo. Miami? Bosh and parts? The Rockets would be a good fit for Carmelo, playing with Harden and Dwight, but what can they give in return other than Asik? Lin and Parsons? Would have to be some sort of crazy 3 or 4 team trade I figure. Something involving Gasol and Asik? Something to get Carmelo to LA, Gasol to Houston where he would be a factor next to Dwight and they give up Asik which is wasted space now, the thing is who is the 4th partner the Knicks can flip Asik to? And you gotta figure that either Bargs or Amare has to get thrown in the deal. The Lakers would be willing to do this to get Carmelo in LA.

Fire away

Keep in mind - NY is a gigantic city with Millions of Knicks fans and they aren't all basketball savvy. Some of the guys posting on here might be 14 years old for all we know.

In any event -- we like most fans do tend to overrate our own players.

I do think the Clips would consider BLAKE for MELO --- it will likely depend on whether CP3 and DOC believe Blake can get them to the promise land. I tend to think they believe Blake (like Amare) needs CP3 to make him play great (this requires tremendous effort/energy on CP3's part every night). With Melo --- he could take some of the creativity burden off CP3 so that he has energy coming down the stretch of games. Right now Paul is having to both score/create a great deal.

The Clippers remain the primary destination in my mind if Melo tries to force a trade.

they get bounced early and i think they would do the trade in a hearbeat

pretty much, if they dont make it out the 1st round, they have to do that deal or CP3 might request a trade