PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project - Discussion Thread

lilroddyb · Post #141 » by **lilroddyb** » Thu Jan 2, 2014 8:12 pm

its going to be fun watching this

I have done this type of fantasy draft 2 times before. So one thing I think was helpful was that always when you draft your pick you pm or email to the next two posters in line and let them know that they are on the clock. It got alot quicker if you do that imo

Don't talk about players that have not been drafted. its really annoying if you think that you're going to get player x after 2 picks or so and then some poster starts talking about why has player x not been drafted he is the way best player available, he should have been drafted 2 rounds ago or something annoying like that

Another thing that was fun was that we had 11 round, were you will draft coaches. its fun for what kind of strategy your team will use. for example phil jackson (triangle system), or Don Nelson if you want some great offense,Dwayne Casey if you want to tank

it also gives the last round a better chance to win if they are first to draft coach.

Its just some ideas

john248 · Post #142 » by **john248** » Thu Jan 2, 2014 10:24 pm

I like the idea of talking about undrafted players only to see if someone gets hyped enough to be drafted what would be perceived as early. lol

ThunderDan9 · Post #143 » by **ThunderDan9** » Fri Jan 3, 2014 7:24 am

All right, who's playing for second? :wink:

Not mentioning any names left, I wrote down 7 names on my paper, so it was granted, 2 of them will be left when I have to pick my franchise player. Nobody is really surprised by the 1-6 picks, I assume

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. The order was a little bit tricky, personalIy I wouldn't have picked Hakeem at #2, but the 3-year peaks of these superstars are pretty close, and taking a two-way monster like Hakeem can certainly be justified.

As for Larry, no praises are really needed. At his best, arguably the best - and most certainly the most well-rounded - offensive player ever. Besides, he is a great team player (and leader). I think he had to be taken at his point, objectively. It's just a lucky coincidence that I love his game. Frankly, I counted with Magic, Lebron, Hakeem or

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, so I'm happy to have the unique opportunity to select my own team led by Larry Bird.

Post #144 » by **Quotatious** » Fri Jan 3, 2014 7:57 am

I'm glad Ronnymac also volunteered to be a judge. One of my favorite posters on this board for a long time. Now we really have a nice set of judges - Doctor MJ, Penbeast, Bastillon, Ronnymac, TMACFORMVP...Great posters.

I'd love to start my team with an elite two-way bigman who can deliver in the playoffs, but I'm afraid both might be gone due to CaliBullsFan and john248 having their picks before mine...I have an alternative for that, but I don't really like it all that much...

john248 · Post #145 » by **john248** » Fri Jan 3, 2014 10:56 am

Dammit. I wanted Larry Bird.

Post #146 » by **Quotatious** » Fri Jan 3, 2014 7:04 pm

Mister Hibachi - yeah, Kobe is a very polarizing player in general, but he's one of only 5 players (MJ, Hakeem, Shaq, LeBron and Kobe) in the last 34 years (because that's our draft's timespan) who won back-to-back titles while also winning the Finals MVP both times. Well, to be fair, Magic and Bird should also be mentioned here (Bird won the title in 1984 and 1986 and lost in 6 games in 1985, while winning FMVP in both '84 and 86', and Magic won two in a row in 1987 and 1988 and you can make a very strong case that he was the FMVP in 1988 as well as 1987). Still, that's an absolutely elite company. I'll probably take 07-09 Kobe and you can't really find any major blemishes in those seasons for Kobe. I may also consider taking 08-10 Bryant, but I thought he played some of the best basketball of his life in 2007 and to be honest, he already lost a step in 2010, athletically.
Besides, 2007 is my sentimental choice. I just loved how he played during that 2006-07 season. Perfect combination of skill, athleticism, showmanship and effectiveness.

I strongly considered taking 94-96 D-Rob but I thought he'd be criticized for his playoff scoring and efficiency dropoff compared to his regular season play (and Hakeem owning him in the 95 WCF). Eventually he's gone to DHodgkins just a few minutes after my pick.

I'm replying here not to derail the draft thread.

MisterHibachi · Post #147 » by **MisterHibachi** » Fri Jan 3, 2014 7:12 pm

Kobe really could've gone anywhere, there are very strong opinions on him on this board. I like the pick tho, he's elite.

DHodgkins · Post #148 » by **DHodgkins** » Fri Jan 3, 2014 7:22 pm

Building my team off of two way and high character players.

None better than the Admiral himself 8-)

john248 · Post #149 » by **john248** » Fri Jan 3, 2014 7:29 pm

Quotatious wrote:Mister Hibachi - yeah, Kobe is a very polarizing player in general, but he's one of only 5 players (MJ, Hakeem, Shaq, LeBron and Kobe) in the last 34 years (because that's our draft's timespan) who won back-to-back titles while also winning the Finals MVP both times. Well, to be fair, Magic and Bird should also be mentioned here (Bird won the title in 1984 and 1986 and lost in 6 games in 1985, while winning FMVP in both '84 and 86', and Magic won two in a row in 1987 and 1988 and you can make a very strong case that he was the FMVP in 1988 as well as 1987). Still, that's an absolutely elite company. I'll probably take 07-09 Kobe and you can't really find any major blemishes in those seasons for Kobe. I may also consider taking 08-10 Bryant, but I thought he played some of the best basketball of his life in 2007 and to be honest, he already lost a step in 2010, athletically.
Besides, 2007 is my sentimental choice. I just loved how he played during that 2006-07 season. Perfect combination of skill, athleticism, showmanship and effectiveness.

I strongly considered taking 94-96 D-Rob but I thought he'd be criticized for his playoff scoring and efficiency dropoff compared to his regular season play (and Hakeem owning him in the 95 WCF). Eventually he's gone to DHodgkins just a few minutes after my pick.

I'm replying here not to derail the draft thread.

I was considering D-Rob too, but I felt the same way about him since he'll likely take a hit similar to Wilt.

Notanoob · Post #150 » by **Notanoob** » Fri Jan 3, 2014 7:32 pm

I was seriously considering LeBron and Ducan with my #2 overall pick. I really liked the fact that I would have an indisputable matchup advantage with those two, where as you could argue that even Hakeem would struggle guarding peak Shaq or Kareem due to the sheer size advantage those two held. 03 Duncan was just incredible, and LeBrons's ability to guard literally every position in some capacity would be very useful for team building. That said, I figured that Hakeem would allow me to pick anyone-he has near perfect portability IMO.

MisterHibachi · Post #151 » by **MisterHibachi** » Fri Jan 3, 2014 7:36 pm

Notanoob wrote:I was seriously considering LeBron and Ducan with my #2 overall pick. I really liked the fact that I would have an indisputable matchup advantage with those two, where as you could argue that even Hakeem would struggle guarding peak Shaq or Kareem due to the sheer size advantage those two held. 03 Duncan was just incredible, and LeBrons's ability to guard literally every position in some capacity would be very useful for team building. That said, I figured that Hakeem would allow me to pick anyone-he has near perfect portability IMO.

You seriously didn't even consider Shaq? I expected him to go top 2. I've seen plenty people argue his peak over MJ.

Notanoob · Post #152 » by **Notanoob** » Fri Jan 3, 2014 7:45 pm

I didn't like that he wasn't as effective outside of the paint on defense. Also, the fact that he coasted during the regular season during his three-peat might affect people's judgement of him, considering this is a 3-year peak and we wouldn't be looking at just Shaq's one year peak. Also, his free throws might be trouble, so I might have to draft a backup C higher than I wanted to, to replace Shaq in crunch time.

I figured that Shaq would be the next pick after mine, and I even gave him an outside shot at being the 1st overall pick, but I just decided to go a different direction, I guess.

Also, I got to say that I figured DRob would go lower than he did. I figured someone at the bottom of this draft would get a chance to pair him with a wing player who could score like mad, and make for an ideal pairing.

MisterHibachi · Post #153 » by **MisterHibachi** » Fri Jan 3, 2014 7:46 pm

Ahh I understand your reasoning now. Good process.

Post #154 » by **Quotatious** » Fri Jan 3, 2014 7:52 pm

Honestly, if I had the first pick, I'd seriously consider taking Hakeem over Jordan. I'd probably end up taking MJ, but Olajuwon deserves to look at him as a serious contender for that. His amazing versatility and phenomenal two way play from a center position would make it very easy to build a great team around him. Besides, three year peak is a PERFECT opportunity for the Dream to be taken as high as possible because coincidentally, it's very difficult to even determine what his best season was - 93, 94 and 95 all have a great case for it.

Shaq is a very serious contender for #1 as well. I wouldn't take LeBron first, but he's close to these guys as well.

BTW. I wonder how judges will look at hypothetical Mike vs Kobe matchup...Personally, I can see them just trading blows all game long. Mike is a better overall player (because of his consistently great efficiency) but in a head-to-head matchup, Kobe may really give him a run for his money.

john248 · Post #155 » by **john248** » Fri Jan 3, 2014 7:55 pm

With the 8th pick in the 2014 All-tine Fantasy League Draft, the GOAT Fantasy team selects...Kareem Abdul Jabbar (79-80 to 81-82) from UCLA.

Homer pick! 8-)

Truthfully, had Duncan fallen to #8, I would've picked Kobe even if Duncan is the better choice. I need to build around any Lakers legend!

I did expect the top 10 to go as follows:

1. Jordan
2. Shaq
3. Hakeem
4. Magic
5. Lebron
6. Bird
7. Duncan
8. Kareem
9. David Robinson
10. undrafted guy

MisterHibachi · Post #156 » by **MisterHibachi** » Fri Jan 3, 2014 9:16 pm

I really wanted Duncan, but I knew I had no chance to get him. Magic is great, but I'm not sure I expected him to go top 3. I like john248's top 3, Mike, Shaq, and Hakeem.

Notanoob · Post #157 » by **Notanoob** » Fri Jan 3, 2014 9:26 pm

I'm a little surprised that we've had 3 PFs go in the 1st round. Considering how select a group the elite PFs are, I bet they'll be gone quickly. We might see some mid-tier guys going a lot earlier than expected as the supply of them runs out.

MisterHibachi · Post #158 » by **MisterHibachi** » Fri Jan 3, 2014 9:29 pm

No point guards other than Magic. I bet most of the 2nd or 3rd will be point guard heavy.

Also kinda feeds the theory that point guard is not as important to winning as bigs/wings.

john248 · Post #159 » by **john248** » Fri Jan 3, 2014 9:32 pm

I thought Dirk would go 10 and Kobe at 11. Draft is going fairly quick, and I hope to make another pick today. I'd imagine it'll slow down in the mid to later rounds as the pool starts to dry up.

ThunderDan9 · Post #160 » by **ThunderDan9** » Fri Jan 3, 2014 9:38 pm

Wow, that is some fast drafting.
No real surprises for me at this point, the Top7 was kind of given. The order might be disputed, but I think we have to be content with any of these players. :wink:

In hindsight, the ABBBABABAB

system may be justifiable.
Picking at #8 would not have been ideal... but in return I have to wait until #27, and then - even worse - #43, and then - even worse - #59... that will be tricky as hell in this highly competitive league. :wink: