ImageImageImageImageImage

Top 50 Players in Clipper History

Moderators: og15, TrueLAfan

User avatar
Quake Griffin
RealGM
Posts: 15,460
And1: 4,676
Joined: Jul 06, 2012
     

Top 50 Players in Clipper History 

Post#1 » by Quake Griffin » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:00 pm

“I’ve always felt that drafting is the life blood of any organization.” - Jerome Alan West.
User avatar
Neddy
RealGM
Posts: 15,865
And1: 3,908
Joined: Jan 28, 2012
     

Re: Top 50 Players in Clipper History 

Post#2 » by Neddy » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:26 pm

ahhhhh.... i don't like the list. i don't like it at all.

first of all, if you haven't even played 3 seasons in our uni, you don't deserve to be on this list. otherwise Dominique Wilkins should be top 3. this rule should eliminate players like Mark Jackson who trashes our franchise nowadays in the media as well. also, players who spent more time with us, should be considered higher on the list than players who were better basketball players who left us as soon as they could.

secondly, even if a player was injured for a long time, their tenure and overall career should define greatness. therefore Bill Walton should be in top 5.

lastly, 50 is a huge list. we should probably consolidate the list to top 20 or top 25. too many below league average guys are on the list.
ehhhhh f it.
User avatar
Neddy
RealGM
Posts: 15,865
And1: 3,908
Joined: Jan 28, 2012
     

Re: Top 50 Players in Clipper History 

Post#3 » by Neddy » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:09 pm

well, my 2 cents of a rough draft would be something like this...

1. Blake Griffin. the man who made Clippers not only relevant, but put us on a national spot light, without him CP3 wouldn't be here. in no time in history, Clippers has been this popular in NBA, and globally known. No more a punch line in late night talk shows, and many younger fans feel it's hip to be a clippers fan. this was an improbable task for any player, as long as i have been a clipper fan.
2. Eric Piatkowski. the Mr. Clipper. 9 years he rocked our jersey through some of the most darkest days, and always held his head up high, proud to be a clipper, and willingly stayed when there were better options. he left to chase a ring after his prime, and i am not mad at that. the first jersey we should retire on the rafter should spell his name on the back.
3. Bob McAdoo. a great player. just don't want to have a guy who actually never rocked a "clipper" jersey who nowadays is identified as a laker ranked too high, but his talent and franchise tenure wise, he deserves to be here.
4. Danny Manning - #1 draft pick who had his best years in Sports Arena. I miss those Larry Brown years.
5. BIll Walton - he came here and wanted to do well for us, but his knees were shot. still a HOFer who promoted the clippers all through out the years. loved him and Ralph TV years ago.
6. Elton Brand- still hate the guy, but can't hate what he has accomplished for us.
7. CP3- his tenure is still fresh, and he should move up on this list all the way to the top each and every passing year of his contract.
8. Ron Harper - the Hollywood. the second Jordan until his knees gave out. what a player and was a joy to watch him during his years here in ClipperNation.
9. Cat Mobley - THE FREE AGENT who started all this. without him, we may still be in the lottery. thank you Cuttino.
10. Michael Cage - the rebounding machine.
11. Sam Cassell - he was with us too briefly to be in top 10, but if he stayed even just 1 more season, he should be way up. two full seasons and demanding a trade leaves a little something to be desired. he will always be the captain in my book however.
12. Gary Grant - the General.
13. Corey Maggette - only a half a player with no defense, but what a spectacular offensive player he once was. a foul inducing machine.
14. World B Free. - the name alone deserves to be in top 15.
15. Ken Norman - the snake was once our #1 go to guy. graciously took the back seat when Danny Manning, Charles Smith, and Benoit Benjamin came around. still a vicious tweener forward.
16. Randy Smith - a great player, but a short time clipper and never a LA Clipper. ( i know my #3 guy falls in the same category, but Bob Macadoo is a HOFer. randy is not) was a very good soccer player and contemplated leaving basketball for futbol in the 70s.
17. Loy Vaught- the Batman to Eric P's Robin-hood between 94 to 97.
18. Charles Smith - once a part of fearsome frontline we sported. Ken-Danny-Charles were a real fun bunch.
19. Chris Kaman- the Kaveboy may hate us now, but he will probably retire as a Clipper, IF his jersey is ever retired...
20. Terry Cummings- he only played 2 seasons with us, which is the reason why he is the last of my top 20. but he did win the ROY with nearly averaging 24-11. if he played as long as Loy, he could have been a top 5 guy.
ehhhhh f it.
User avatar
Quake Griffin
RealGM
Posts: 15,460
And1: 4,676
Joined: Jul 06, 2012
     

Re: Top 50 Players in Clipper History 

Post#4 » by Quake Griffin » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:16 am

Ron Harper said if he was going into the hall, he'd go in as a Clip.

Bulls and Laker ships and he still was able to recognizes our franchise as his best years.
“I’ve always felt that drafting is the life blood of any organization.” - Jerome Alan West.
User avatar
Neddy
RealGM
Posts: 15,865
And1: 3,908
Joined: Jan 28, 2012
     

Re: Top 50 Players in Clipper History 

Post#5 » by Neddy » Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:33 pm

Quake Griffin wrote:Ron Harper said if he was going into the hall, he'd go in as a Clip.

Bulls and Laker ships and he still was able to recognizes our franchise as his best years.



yeah i still have ron harper's 91-92 (? i think) season jersey. always loved the guy. only guy i couldn't hate on those lakers and bulls teams too.

also, i sort of bent my own rules to slot in Sam Cassell and Terry Cummings, and i think i should stick to 3 years minimum rule and revise the list by moving everyone behind Sam up 1, and add Norm Nixon and Ernie Digregorio.

1. Blake
2. Eric P
3. Bob
4. Danny Manning
5. the Walton
6. Elton
7. CP3
8. Ron Harper
9. Cat
10. Michael Cage
11. the General
12. Corey M.
13. World B Free
14. call me Snake
15. Randy Smith (which BTW in England means a horny bastard)
16. Loy
17. Charles in Charge
18. Kaveboy
19. Norm Nixon
20. Ernie the One hit Wonder.
ehhhhh f it.
azncorruptedo17
Starter
Posts: 2,221
And1: 222
Joined: Dec 08, 2009
Location: North Hills, CA
         

Re: Top 50 Players in Clipper History 

Post#6 » by azncorruptedo17 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:36 pm

i'm actually surprised world b free isn't higher...
Clipper fan since '95!!
azncorruptedo17
Starter
Posts: 2,221
And1: 222
Joined: Dec 08, 2009
Location: North Hills, CA
         

Re: Top 50 Players in Clipper History 

Post#7 » by azncorruptedo17 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:38 pm

lol kandiman is in there but no darius miles?
Clipper fan since '95!!
Don Tommy
Senior
Posts: 595
And1: 287
Joined: Feb 18, 2012
     

Re: Top 50 Players in Clipper History 

Post#8 » by Don Tommy » Tue Dec 31, 2013 11:21 pm

I'd have to put Loy Vaught higher, I always respected the intensity and effort he gave us. I've always thought he was vastly under rated. If things had worked out the way I hoped they would have then Vlad Radmonvic would be on this list. Getting rid of him in the Charlotte expansion draft paved the way for us to draft Shawn Livingston. If he could have stayed healthy he would have been one of the most entertaining players of all time.
User avatar
mttwlsn16
Head Coach
Posts: 7,090
And1: 1,983
Joined: Jan 30, 2012
Location: Charlotte
     

Re: Top 50 Players in Clipper History 

Post#9 » by mttwlsn16 » Wed Jan 1, 2014 12:09 am

azncorruptedo17 wrote:lol kandiman is in there but no darius miles?


Lol I didn't get that either

I miss dmiles :(
Image
User avatar
adiedanny
Senior
Posts: 721
And1: 5
Joined: Jul 07, 2006
Location: Covina,Ca

Re: Top 50 Players in Clipper History 

Post#10 » by adiedanny » Wed Jan 1, 2014 6:07 pm

Neddy wrote:well, my 2 cents of a rough draft would be something like this...

1. Blake Griffin. the man who made Clippers not only relevant, but put us on a national spot light, without him CP3 wouldn't be here. in no time in history, Clippers has been this popular in NBA, and globally known. No more a punch line in late night talk shows, and many younger fans feel it's hip to be a clippers fan. this was an improbable task for any player, as long as i have been a clipper fan.
2. Eric Piatkowski. the Mr. Clipper. 9 years he rocked our jersey through some of the most darkest days, and always held his head up high, proud to be a clipper, and willingly stayed when there were better options. he left to chase a ring after his prime, and i am not mad at that. the first jersey we should retire on the rafter should spell his name on the back.
3. Bob McAdoo. a great player. just don't want to have a guy who actually never rocked a "clipper" jersey who nowadays is identified as a laker ranked too high, but his talent and franchise tenure wise, he deserves to be here.
4. Danny Manning - #1 draft pick who had his best years in Sports Arena. I miss those Larry Brown years.
5. BIll Walton - he came here and wanted to do well for us, but his knees were shot. still a HOFer who promoted the clippers all through out the years. loved him and Ralph TV years ago.
6. Elton Brand- still hate the guy, but can't hate what he has accomplished for us.
7. CP3- his tenure is still fresh, and he should move up on this list all the way to the top each and every passing year of his contract.
8. Ron Harper - the Hollywood. the second Jordan until his knees gave out. what a player and was a joy to watch him during his years here in ClipperNation.
9. Cat Mobley - THE FREE AGENT who started all this. without him, we may still be in the lottery. thank you Cuttino.
10. Michael Cage - the rebounding machine.
11. Sam Cassell - he was with us too briefly to be in top 10, but if he stayed even just 1 more season, he should be way up. two full seasons and demanding a trade leaves a little something to be desired. he will always be the captain in my book however.
12. Gary Grant - the General.
13. Corey Maggette - only a half a player with no defense, but what a spectacular offensive player he once was. a foul inducing machine.
14. World B Free. - the name alone deserves to be in top 15.
15. Ken Norman - the snake was once our #1 go to guy. graciously took the back seat when Danny Manning, Charles Smith, and Benoit Benjamin came around. still a vicious tweener forward.
16. Randy Smith - a great player, but a short time clipper and never a LA Clipper. ( i know my #3 guy falls in the same category, but Bob Macadoo is a HOFer. randy is not) was a very good soccer player and contemplated leaving basketball for futbol in the 70s.
17. Loy Vaught- the Batman to Eric P's Robin-hood between 94 to 97.
18. Charles Smith - once a part of fearsome frontline we sported. Ken-Danny-Charles were a real fun bunch.
19. Chris Kaman- the Kaveboy may hate us now, but he will probably retire as a Clipper, IF his jersey is ever retired...
20. Terry Cummings- he only played 2 seasons with us, which is the reason why he is the last of my top 20. but he did win the ROY with nearly averaging 24-11. if he played as long as Loy, he could have been a top 5 guy.

what!? no Stanley Roberts, Elmore Spencer or Ike Austin? Baylor loved big men. Not going to disrespect Closs. He communicates with Clippers fans on Twitter
User avatar
Neddy
RealGM
Posts: 15,865
And1: 3,908
Joined: Jan 28, 2012
     

Re: Top 50 Players in Clipper History 

Post#11 » by Neddy » Wed Jan 1, 2014 9:23 pm

adiedanny wrote:what!? no Stanley Roberts, Elmore Spencer or Ike Austin? Baylor loved big men. Not going to disrespect Closs. He communicates with Clippers fans on Twitter



refer back to my first post of this thread... all time greats must have no less than 3 years with us, short term rentals should not be considered a "great" for your franchise.

therefore Ike doesn't count. he hardly played in clipper uni after getting traded at the deadline from miami, and didn't stay despite our "i like ike" button efforts at the arena.

elmore was hardly a force. benoit benjamin was probably more often dominant than steady elmore.

big ole Stanley i do love, and he is probably in top 25 for sure. but other names on that list have done things that are either in the record books, like Ernie who still holds the most assist by a rookie with 25, best rookie stats by a clipper, or had more impact to the game like Michael Cage or Norm Nixon, with more consistent high level of playing. Stanley was at times a superman, but other times ate himself off the court. still love him tho. let's call him the 21st great of all time.
ehhhhh f it.
User avatar
adiedanny
Senior
Posts: 721
And1: 5
Joined: Jul 07, 2006
Location: Covina,Ca

Re: Top 50 Players in Clipper History 

Post#12 » by adiedanny » Thu Jan 2, 2014 12:59 am

Neddy wrote:
adiedanny wrote:what!? no Stanley Roberts, Elmore Spencer or Ike Austin? Baylor loved big men. Not going to disrespect Closs. He communicates with Clippers fans on Twitter



refer back to my first post of this thread... all time greats must have no less than 3 years with us, short term rentals should not be considered a "great" for your franchise.

therefore Ike doesn't count. he hardly played in clipper uni after getting traded at the deadline from miami, and didn't stay despite our "i like ike" button efforts at the arena.

elmore was hardly a force. benoit benjamin was probably more often dominant than steady elmore.

big ole Stanley i do love, and he is probably in top 25 for sure. but other names on that list have done things that are either in the record books, like Ernie who still holds the most assist by a rookie with 25, best rookie stats by a clipper, or had more impact to the game like Michael Cage or Norm Nixon, with more consistent high level of playing. Stanley was at times a superman, but other times ate himself off the court. still love him tho. let's call him the 21st great of all time.

Lmao I was being sarcastic buddy. I would never consider any of them in the top 50. I think Baylor wasted so many picks on big men. Especially Olowokandi instead of Bibby. I was so pissed! I agree with most of your list but I still think MJackson deserves to be on the list. Regardless of him being so negative towards the Clippers he was still one of my all times favs
User avatar
Neddy
RealGM
Posts: 15,865
And1: 3,908
Joined: Jan 28, 2012
     

Re: Top 50 Players in Clipper History 

Post#13 » by Neddy » Thu Jan 2, 2014 2:20 am

oh. well it's hard to decipher sarcasm over the internet at times. but now i see it was a shot at baylor which he so deserves.

and i disagree about Mark Jackson. he used to be my favorite player way back in high school, i used to even imitate his arm extension while gaging for free throws. but the truth is, he spent 2 years with us and couldn't wait to get the hell out. he posted 14.4 and 8.8 during his first year, and 10.9 and 8.6 in his second and the final year with us. that is hardly a stat line deserving recognition, even if that player spent his entire career with us and took us far in the playoffs. Mark Jackson didn't. Larry Brown probably could have started Gary Grant and got similar results. Mark Jackson would probably identify himself as a pacer first, and despite his troubles, a Knick second. we don't need him.

besides, even if we allowed lesser than 3 years tenure players on the list, Sam Cassell and Terry Cummings would probably take spots over Mark Jackass Jackson.
ehhhhh f it.
Chronz
Starter
Posts: 2,199
And1: 471
Joined: Jul 30, 2008

Re: Top 50 Players in Clipper History 

Post#14 » by Chronz » Thu Jan 2, 2014 11:19 pm

CP3

Then it takes some time to think about the rest.............
User avatar
mj_shoefanatic
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,113
And1: 104
Joined: Dec 23, 2007
Location: Lob Angeles
       

Re: Top 50 Players in Clipper History 

Post#15 » by mj_shoefanatic » Sat Jan 4, 2014 8:33 pm

Kandiman has no business being on this list.
User avatar
Neddy
RealGM
Posts: 15,865
And1: 3,908
Joined: Jan 28, 2012
     

Re: Top 50 Players in Clipper History 

Post#16 » by Neddy » Sun Jan 5, 2014 12:13 am

we should make a "the worst 50 players of all time" list. I'm sure that list will have Olawakandi near the top, maybe just below Benoit Benjamin who flipped a bird at Clippers fans at the sports arena.
ehhhhh f it.
User avatar
mttwlsn16
Head Coach
Posts: 7,090
And1: 1,983
Joined: Jan 30, 2012
Location: Charlotte
     

Re: Top 50 Players in Clipper History 

Post#17 » by mttwlsn16 » Sun Jan 5, 2014 12:22 am

Neddy wrote:we should make a "the worst 50 players of all time" list. I'm sure that list will have Olawakandi near the top, maybe just below Benoit Benjamin who flipped a bird at Clippers fans at the sports arena.


Byron mullens
Image

Return to Los Angeles Clippers