Andrew Bynum

Dupas · Post #241 » by **Dupas** » Sun Jan 5, 2014 9:09 pm

WD wrote:Being GREEDY will only come back to haunt us......Just say no to this situation.......we have GREG ODEN

We have a player that did 0 bball games for the last 4 years.
Bynum would be BIG , insta 3 peat if he can play 20,15m per game.

WD · Post #242 » by WD » Sun Jan 5, 2014 9:12 pm

Dupas wrote:
WD wrote:Being GREEDY will only come back to haunt us......Just say no to this situation.......we have GREG ODEN

We have a player that did 0 bball games for the last 4 years.
Bynum would be BIG , insta 3 peat if he can play 20,15m per game.

Insert Bynum on THIS TEAM with THIS COACH and you'll have the same results. Bynum on the bench for the same reason(s) ODEN is on the bench.......

Again, people judge players by what they can do on other teams which is normal. However, you have t factor in what WE ask them to do HERE.

IMO - Bynum is a BIG BUST right now - ODEN at least has/had/has a desire to play...

heatlespeatles · Post #243 » by **heatlespeatles** » Sun Jan 5, 2014 9:37 pm

WD wrote:
Dupas wrote:
WD wrote:Being GREEDY will only come back to haunt us......Just say no to this situation.......we have GREG ODEN

We have a player that did 0 bball games for the last 4 years.
Bynum would be BIG , insta 3 peat if he can play 20,15m per game.

Insert Bynum on THIS TEAM with THIS COACH and you'll have the same results. Bynum on the bench for the same reason(s) ODEN is on the bench.......

Again, people judge players by what they can do on other teams which is normal. However, you have t factor in what WE ask them to do HERE.

IMO - Bynum is a BIG BUST right now - ODEN at least has/had/has a desire to play...

really? Bynum wouldn't play here and is a bust? really? lol the things y'all say on here

WD · Post #244 » by WD » Sun Jan 5, 2014 9:39 pm

heatlespeatles wrote:
WD wrote:
Dupas wrote:We have a player that did 0 bball games for the last 4 years.
Bynum would be BIG , insta 3 peat if he can play 20,15m per game.

Insert Bynum on THIS TEAM with THIS COACH and you'll have the same results. Bynum on the bench for the same reason(s) ODEN is on the bench.......

Again, people judge players by what they can do on other teams which is normal. However, you have t factor in what WE ask them to do HERE.

IMO - Bynum is a BIG BUST right now - ODEN at least has/had/has a desire to play...

really? Bynum wouldn't play here and is a bust? really? lol the things y'all say on here

This is my opinion, but I'm curious and ask this question DIRECTLY TO YOU - what makes you think he will get playing time ahead of ODEN IF SIGNED? - easy question

RexBoyWonder · Post #245 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Sun Jan 5, 2014 9:41 pm

Raptors improving has much as they have by just getting rid of Rudy Gay is a very interesting lesson.It's not that Gay is that horrible (he can be useful and he does posses some talents) but more goes to show that when a player doesn't fit and doesn't play an all around game he could really hurt your team by just being there. That thought echoes in my mind when I think about us adding Bynum.

Really not sure if we should go for it. Very hard call IMO.

WD · Post #246 » by WD » Sun Jan 5, 2014 9:43 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:Raptors improving has much as they have by just getting rid of Rudy Gay is a very interesting lesson.It's not that Gay is that horrible (he can be useful and he does posses some talents) but more goes to show that when a player doesn't fit and doesn't play an all around game he could really hurt your team by just being there. That thought echoes in my mind when I think about us adding Bynum.

Really not sure if we should go for it. Very hard call IMO.

I said earlier when this thread was created "he didn't fit" IMO - not THIS TEAM - he probably mentioned the HEAT to create leverage to a team of choice - who knows

RexBoyWonder · Post #247 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Sun Jan 5, 2014 9:45 pm

WD wrote:
heatlespeatles wrote:
WD wrote:Insert Bynum on THIS TEAM with THIS COACH and you'll have the same results. Bynum on the bench for the same reason(s) ODEN is on the bench.......

Again, people judge players by what they can do on other teams which is normal. However, you have t factor in what WE ask them to do HERE.

IMO - Bynum is a BIG BUST right now - ODEN at least has/had/has a desire to play...

really? Bynum wouldn't play here and is a bust? really? lol the things y'all say on here

This is my opinion, but I'm curious and ask this question DIRECTLY TO YOU - what makes you think he will get playing time ahead of ODEN IF SIGNED? - easy question

You're not asking the right question. Bynum is healthy enough now. Oden isn't. So Bynum could play ahead of him now. but that's not even the point - they can both share minutes at C if they both play well. The real question is if Bynum has what it takes to help us on the court, considering his mental makeup, bad season so far, was never a great defender, might not mesh in locker room, might bitch about minutes/shots, might not play hard enough, has problems covering the P&R, isn't really mobile like our other bigs to fit into defensive scheme, etc.

WD · Post #248 » by WD » Sun Jan 5, 2014 9:47 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
WD wrote:
heatlespeatles wrote:
really? Bynum wouldn't play here and is a bust? really? lol the things y'all say on here

This is my opinion, but I'm curious and ask this question DIRECTLY TO YOU - what makes you think he will get playing time ahead of ODEN IF SIGNED? - easy question

You're not asking the right question. Bynum is healthy enough now. Oden isn't. So Bynum could play ahead of him now. but that's not even the point - they can both share minutes at C if they both play well. The real question is if Bynum has what it takes to help us on the court, considering his mental makeup, bad season so far, was never a great defender, might not mesh in locker room, might bitch about minutes/shots, might not play hard enough, etc.

thanks, but I knew those questions, I was asking that question the way I did to the poster to see if THEY were following the things you mentioned...ANYWAY...my vote is NO - personally, I want to see how MIAMI handles ODEN before I concern myself with another BIG....

The Miami Heat has a unique system, I don;t care how good you are as a BIG, if you cannot play the style of DEFENSE Miami wants you to play, you're basically useless. Miami seldom changes it's defensive philosophy for ANY player, they make said player change/adjust to fit Miami's style of DEFENSIVE play...YES/NO?

XTC · Post #249 » by **XTC** » Sun Jan 5, 2014 9:51 pm

As an outside chiming in. Bynum for you guys would be HUGE (pun intended). Even with all his injuries he's a big guy, who has a soft touch around the basket, some moves, and can catch the ball while on the move and lobs. He would be magic with Lebron. Even though I'm a Raptors fan I would love Bynum to get signed by The Heat just to see Bynum give Hibbert fits offensively and defensively lol.

Mars · Post #250 » by **Mars** » Sun Jan 5, 2014 10:16 pm

WD wrote:...The Miami Heat has a unique system, I don;t care how good you are as a BIG, if you cannot play the style of DEFENSE Miami wants you to play, you're basically useless. Miami seldom changes it's defensive philosophy for ANY player, they make said player change/adjust to fit Miami's style of DEFENSIVE play...YES/NO?

Shaq couldn't play the Heat's style of defense when he was with the team. Even in his prime with the Lakers. was a notoriously horrible pick and roll defender. SVG and Riley made adjustments to account for his defensive shortcomings during their stints as head coach.

There's a reason Miami's defense was more dynamic when Alonzo came in to play. Even past his prime, with one kidney, Zo could still blow up the pick and roll yet recover ground in time to protect the rim.

heatlespeatles · Post #251 » by **heatlespeatles** » Sun Jan 5, 2014 11:48 pm

WD wrote:
heatlespeatles wrote:
WD wrote:Insert Bynum on THIS TEAM with THIS COACH and you'll have the same results. Bynum on the bench for the same reason(s) ODEN is on the bench.......

Again, people judge players by what they can do on other teams which is normal. However, you have t factor in what WE ask them to do HERE.

IMO - Bynum is a BIG BUST right now - ODEN at least has/had/has a desire to play...

really? Bynum wouldn't play here and is a bust? really? lol the things y'all say on here

This is my opinion, but I'm curious and ask this question DIRECTLY TO YOU - what makes you think he will get playing time ahead of ODEN IF SIGNED? - easy question

he is further along than Oden, he is proven. Oden isn't.

Altered_Beast · Post #252 » by **Altered_Beast** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 1:40 am

Apparently cavs gonna wave Andrew since they aren't getting g any decent offers

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Pure_Basketball · Post #253 » by **Pure_Basketball** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 1:48 am

To anyone thinking that Bynum wouldn't be a huge upgrade for Miami over what we have now are crazy. It would allow Bosh to slide back to his natural power forward position, and against Indiana that would mean exerting less energy on defense by guarding a player who is smaller than him in David West. Bynum would also negate any offense that Roy Hibbert has had on us the last couple of years when we've played them.

He's a big body in the paint, and I'm sure joining the Heat would motivate him to play hard as it's a chance of winning a ring as apposed to playing with Cleveland where he had nothing to play for.

I'm salavating at the prospect of having a center rotation of Bynum/Anderson/Oden/Anthony after previously having Dampier/Ilgauskas/Anthony. My god thankyou that those days are over. This would also mean the end of Anthony, Lewis and possibly Shane Battier from the rotation which would be fantastic.

RexBoyWonder · Post #254 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 1:49 am

Altered_Beast wrote:Apparently cavs gonna wave Andrew since they aren't getting g any decent offers

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Bynum isn't even a good defender, he's just a huge body. But watching our defense most of the year, Im getting desperate for some kind of defensive presence.

GetMoney · Post #255 » by **GetMoney** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 1:59 am

heatlespeatles wrote:
WD wrote:
heatlespeatles wrote:
really? Bynum wouldn't play here and is a bust? really? lol the things y'all say on here

This is my opinion, but I'm curious and ask this question DIRECTLY TO YOU - what makes you think he will get playing time ahead of ODEN IF SIGNED? - easy question

he is further along than Oden, he is proven. Oden isn't.

exactly. bynum isn't even hurt. he can play right now. 12-15 mins off the bench isn't going to drastically uproot w/e inflexible principles you guys think miami is instituting. against the pacers at home the heat played a brand new lineup and changed their PnR defense on the fly

Altered_Beast · Post #256 » by **Altered_Beast** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:00 am

RexBoyWonder wrote:
Altered_Beast wrote:Apparently cavs gonna wave Andrew since they aren't getting g any decent offers

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Bynum isn't even a good defender, he's just a huge body. But watching our defense most of the year, Im getting desperate for some kind of defensive presence.

We only need him to defend hibbert. That's it. Hibbert is the only reason pacers beat us. Lebron better than George. Bosh better than west. Wade better than Stephenson. The thorn on our side has been that big ass goofball hibbert. We get a body on him and pacers look like the bobcats against us

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shanedude · Post #257 » by **shanedude** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:02 am

Even with his ****ty pnr D, he is a big ass body and our defensive schemes will adjust when he's on the floor. Putting Bosh back at the 4 and getting the Shards/UDs out of the rotation would be a godsend.
Bynum/Oden/Bird/Bosh is a killer C rotation. To the people who don't want him here.... Y'all nuts. You think he's gonna act up in this locker room? Bynum is a front runner, he'll only put in the effort on a good team.

Heat_Fan_87 · Post #258 » by **Heat_Fan_87** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:09 am

Looks like cavs will waive him

RexBoyWonder · Post #259 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:38 am

**** it, Lets role the dice on this punk. Got nothing to lose.

Post #260 » by **GameTime_3** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:55 am

Sounds like Bynum will be a free agents. If I'm Riley this is one signing I'm taking a real hard look at. Bynum is a DREAM Center for this team. Is Bynum perfect? No. But will he prove us a low post threat and a huge man inside. These highlights of Bynum this season. He still has alot of skill and look how easily he handles Noah when his mind is right. Would love to see that type of Center vs. Hibbert.

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