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Re: PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project 

Post#221 » by HeartBreakKid » Sun Jan 5, 2014 11:02 pm

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Dr Olajuwon wrote:Teams are made of 5 players or there will be some bench players?

Ewing&Durant my favourite duo so far. Really interesting duos incoming, for sure.


I believe we are going 10 rounds

I think it's your turn, quoting you for the notification. :wink:
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Post#222 » by HeartBreakKid » Sun Jan 5, 2014 11:15 pm

Quotatious wrote:I must say Doc MJ just posted the best response since the beginning of existence of the draft thread. Or should I say ardee posted it? Whatever...Well done sir. :lol:

Someone (Mister Hibachi) finally took Moses. I think no one had taken him him in the first round because people were concerned about his defense, but his scoring and rebounding were awesome, and he won back-to-back MVPs with two different teams in 1982 and 1983..It's a bit weird to me that HeartBreakKid wanted Karl instead of him. After all, Moses and Doc are a proven duo. I was actually starting to wonder whether he'll be picked before my pick at #24. :lol: Strangely, I'm happy that Hibachi nabbed him because it'd be very difficult to pass up on him and I don't think he's a perfect fit to Kobe (and I'd love to have a big man with great defense to pair with Bryant).

Ardee taking Dirk and Nash was so predictable that I could literally smell it right from the get go, assuming they'd still be available. :D

*Now that I'm thinking about it, it's especially weird that Moses went at #20 and Kareem at #8...When they actually played in the early 80s, many people (if not the majority) considered Moses to be better.

It was either Moses or Karl for me.

Moses being paired with Dr.J would have been nice since it actually happened, but this is fantasy, I have the option to do better. 8-)
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Re: PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project 

Post#223 » by Quotatious » Sun Jan 5, 2014 11:27 pm

HeartBreakKid wrote:It was either Moses or Karl for me.

Moses being paired with Dr.J would have been nice since it actually happened, but this is fantasy, I have the option to do better. 8-)

Oh, I see we share that sentiment. :) I also don't want to make a team that features two players who actually played together as my core. It takes away from the fun factor.
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Re: PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project 

Post#224 » by Notanoob » Sun Jan 5, 2014 11:42 pm

I knew that Pip wasn't going to last to me, but it still hurts to see him gone.
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Re: PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project 

Post#225 » by whitehops » Sun Jan 5, 2014 11:47 pm

DHodgkins wrote:.


you're on the clock...


things are heating up! interesting duos being formed.
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Re: PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project 

Post#226 » by MisterHibachi » Sun Jan 5, 2014 11:49 pm

Quotatious wrote:Oh damn, Bruh Man nabbed Pippen... :evil: I wanted Kobe/Pippen as my personal Jordan/Pippen...He now has KG/Pippen duo, that's some scary defense right there. :o

BTW. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU MISTER HIBACHI - you said that a player has to have at least 185 games played in three seasons to qualify...I seriously consider taking a guy who played 183 games over three seasons, but one of this seasons was the shortened, 50-game 1998-99 season, and he played 46 out of 50 games possible. I can still take him, right? :-?


It's 75 percent played over 3 years. So it'd be 161 games out of 214, if you're using the 99 lockout. Your guy is eligible, having played 183.
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Re: PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project 

Post#227 » by O_6 » Mon Jan 6, 2014 12:24 am

Quotatious wrote:
HeartBreakKid wrote:It was either Moses or Karl for me.

Moses being paired with Dr.J would have been nice since it actually happened, but this is fantasy, I have the option to do better. 8-)

Oh, I see we share that sentiment. :) I also don't want to make a team that features two players who actually played together as my core. It takes away from the fun factor.


You're up.

Things are really getting interesting right now.
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Post#228 » by whitehops » Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:36 am

john248 wrote:.


you're on the clock.
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Re: PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project 

Post#229 » by DHodgkins » Mon Jan 6, 2014 3:01 am

Picking Isiah was a tough decision since he is usually underrated when it comes to RealGM.

I like my start with him and the Admiral though.
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Post#230 » by Notanoob » Mon Jan 6, 2014 3:42 am

Zeke+Admiral is a pretty solid combo though, seeing as Zeke will pick up the slack scoring wise for your team when Admiral falls off in the playoffs. I figured that he'd fall to me though, so I could add a former Piston to my team. Oh well.
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Re: PC Board All-Time Fantasy Draft 

Post#231 » by john248 » Mon Jan 6, 2014 3:47 am

CaliBullsFan wrote:I would love to participate


Your turn to pick. I quoted this since it triggers the "notifications" when you come on the forums.
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Re: PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project 

Post#232 » by john248 » Mon Jan 6, 2014 3:59 am

Quotatious wrote:I must say Doc MJ just posted the best response since the beginning of existence of the draft thread. Or should I say ardee posted it? Whatever...Well done sir. :lol:

Someone (Mister Hibachi) finally took Moses. I think no one had taken him him in the first round because people were concerned about his defense, but his scoring and rebounding were awesome, and he won back-to-back MVPs with two different teams in 1982 and 1983..It's a bit weird to me that HeartBreakKid wanted Karl instead of him. After all, Moses and Doc are a proven duo. I was actually starting to wonder whether he'll be picked before my pick at #24. :lol: Strangely, I'm happy that Hibachi nabbed him because it'd be very difficult to pass up on him and I don't think he's a perfect fit to Kobe (and I'd love to have a big man with great defense to pair with Bryant).

Ardee taking Dirk and Nash was so predictable that I could literally smell it right from the get go, assuming they'd still be available. :D

*Now that I'm thinking about it, it's especially weird that Moses went at #20 and Kareem at #8...When they actually played in the early 80s, many people (if not the majority) considered Moses to be better.


As someone who picked Kareem, the #8 spot was no fun at all since I viewed the top 7 picks to be pretty much automatic. Too much to consider. 1st, I wanted my homer pick. 2nd, Moses had outplayed Kareem in 81. 3rd, I thought about Kobe and Robinson. Had I gone with Kobe, I thought Moses might be available later or at least Zo which you have gone with which I would've loved as I'd still have a homer pick worthy of the #8 but ultimately I'm relying a lot on Kareem's 80 season even in this 3 year peak draft. Had I gone with Robinson, there would be much less holes to fill and sympathy that Robinson seems to get if you pair him with someone else.

I took a controversial pick in TMac. Here's a player who largely had 1...ONE...peak season; and had never...NEVER...made it to the 2nd round; not to mention, I know a couple of the judges don't think much of him though 1 seeming does going by his screen name. lol There's another wing player who I wanted to take though I felt he wasn't as good of a #1 option and hated the fact that many times he'd look at the ball while dribbling even if he played on deep playoff teams (even if loaded with talent).

Ultimately though, I think these things are won with who's picked in the 4 to 6 range. :)
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Re: PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project 

Post#233 » by john248 » Mon Jan 6, 2014 4:02 am

MisterHibachi wrote:
Quotatious wrote:Oh damn, Bruh Man nabbed Pippen... :evil: I wanted Kobe/Pippen as my personal Jordan/Pippen...He now has KG/Pippen duo, that's some scary defense right there. :o

BTW. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU MISTER HIBACHI - you said that a player has to have at least 185 games played in three seasons to qualify...I seriously consider taking a guy who played 183 games over three seasons, but one of this seasons was the shortened, 50-game 1998-99 season, and he played 46 out of 50 games possible. I can still take him, right? :-?


It's 75 percent played over 3 years. So it'd be 161 games out of 214, if you're using the 99 lockout. Your guy is eligible, having played 183.


I was under the impression it was 75% of the games in each season which would avoid say.. 82, 82, 21 games played over 3 seasons; including 75% of shortened seasons.

A bit absurd to consider a 21 game season to count as something as a "peak" year.
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Re: PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project 

Post#234 » by MisterHibachi » Mon Jan 6, 2014 4:23 am

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MisterHibachi wrote:
Quotatious wrote:Oh damn, Bruh Man nabbed Pippen... :evil: I wanted Kobe/Pippen as my personal Jordan/Pippen...He now has KG/Pippen duo, that's some scary defense right there. :o

BTW. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU MISTER HIBACHI - you said that a player has to have at least 185 games played in three seasons to qualify...I seriously consider taking a guy who played 183 games over three seasons, but one of this seasons was the shortened, 50-game 1998-99 season, and he played 46 out of 50 games possible. I can still take him, right? :-?


It's 75 percent played over 3 years. So it'd be 161 games out of 214, if you're using the 99 lockout. Your guy is eligible, having played 183.


I was under the impression it was 75% of the games in each season which would avoid say.. 82, 82, 21 games played over 3 seasons; including 75% of shortened seasons.

A bit absurd to consider a 21 game season to count as something as a "peak" year.


Ahh confusion. I thought we all agreed to 75% over 3 seasons? I'll go back over the thread in a bit to check on that and see if there was any miscommunication.

Edit: You're right, I was confused.

From page 8:

MisterHibachi wrote:
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MisterHibachi wrote:150 games out of a possible 246? That might be a little too low, in my opinion.


I think your previous suggestion - 70% in each season would be better. It'd be 57 games in every season, or maybe 75% (62 games) one of the two for me, personally I like 62 games more. In lockout years, it be either 35 games with 70% mark or 38 games with 75% mark in 1998-99 and 46 games (70%) or 50 games (75%) in 2011-12.

Let's pick one of those a get it started on the first of January. :)


i'm down for this. 75% of games over 3 seasons is a reasonable criteria. That's 185 games out of a possible 246.


What Quotatious said in that^ is what we are using. 75% played each season. That's 62/82 in full seasons; 38/50 in '99; 50/66 in '12. So even with this, Quotatious' guy is good, I think it was Alonzo?
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Re: PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project 

Post#235 » by whitehops » Mon Jan 6, 2014 4:40 am

john248 wrote:I took a controversial pick in TMac. Here's a player who largely had 1...ONE...peak season; and had never...NEVER...made it to the 2nd round


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Re: PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project 

Post#236 » by MisterHibachi » Mon Jan 6, 2014 4:56 am

Anyone else surprised at the fact that only one point guard went in the first round? Really feeds into the theory that you can't win a title with a point as your first option.
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Post#237 » by HeartBreakKid » Mon Jan 6, 2014 4:59 am

MisterHibachi wrote:Anyone else surprised at the fact that only one point guard went in the first round? Really feeds into the theory that you can't win a title with a point as your first option.

Hm? It doesn't really feed into that at all, because the second and third best PGs of all time are guys who we are not allowed to pick. If West and Big O were eligible, they would be first rounders.

Also, Chris Paul is only second rounder by technicality, he was a back to back pick.
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Re: PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project 

Post#238 » by MisterHibachi » Mon Jan 6, 2014 5:20 am

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MisterHibachi wrote:Anyone else surprised at the fact that only one point guard went in the first round? Really feeds into the theory that you can't win a title with a point as your first option.

Hm? It doesn't really feed into that at all, because the second and third best PGs of all time are guys who we are not allowed to pick. If West and Big O were eligible, they would be first rounders.

Also, Chris Paul is only second rounder by technicality, he was a back to back pick.


You're right. But it would still only be 3 out of 16, compared to 8 big men and 6 wings. Big O and West both would've been taken out of the top 10 i think. Kobe and David Robinson probably get pushed out for Wilt and Russell. So, both those points guards would be taken in the 10-16 range.
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Re: PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project 

Post#239 » by HeartBreakKid » Mon Jan 6, 2014 5:22 am

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MisterHibachi wrote:Anyone else surprised at the fact that only one point guard went in the first round? Really feeds into the theory that you can't win a title with a point as your first option.

Hm? It doesn't really feed into that at all, because the second and third best PGs of all time are guys who we are not allowed to pick. If West and Big O were eligible, they would be first rounders.

Also, Chris Paul is only second rounder by technicality, he was a back to back pick.


You're right. But it would still only be 3 out of 16, compared to 8 big men and 6 wings. Big O and West both would've been taken out of the top 10 i think. Kobe and David Robinson probably get pushed out for Wilt and Russell. So, both those points guards would be taken in the 10-16 range.


Well, Big Men = two positions and wings = two positions. Point guard is naturally only one position.


If you word it another way like guards vs forwards or point guards vs shooting guards, it doesn't seem very lopsided.
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Re: PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project 

Post#240 » by whitehops » Mon Jan 6, 2014 5:28 am

MisterHibachi wrote:Anyone else surprised at the fact that only one point guard went in the first round? Really feeds into the theory that you can't win a title with a point as your first option.


i'm not.

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