If Kevin Love won

Mattya · Post #61 » by **Mattya** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 8:14 pm

jsbasketball10 wrote:I'm not angry and I'm not calling you delusional, that is unless you actually think he's staying in Minnesota

You can't post that Nene, Josh Smith and KCP is enough for Kevin Love in the same thread where you want to claim people are being delusional.

jsbasketball10 · Post #62 » by **jsbasketball10** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 8:17 pm

And you still haven't answered my question as to wether or not you think Kevin love is staying in minnesota. And I also said Greg Monroe was going to Minnesota too. How the heck is Greg Monroe nene josh smith and kcp not enough for Kevin love who is good as gone in a year and a half...

Mattya · Post #63 » by **Mattya** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 8:23 pm

jsbasketball10 wrote:And you still haven't answered my question as to wether or not you think Kevin love is staying in minnesota. And I also said Greg Monroe was going to Minnesota too. How the heck is Greg Monroe nene josh smith and kcp not enough for Kevin love who is good as gone in a year and a half...

This is a waste of time. You have the Wolves taking on like 30 some million dollars in salary before Greg Monroe needs an extension. Terrible value.

MNRunLeft · Post #64 » by **MNRunLeft** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 8:30 pm

jsbasketball10 wrote:And you still haven't answered my question as to wether or not you think Kevin love is staying in minnesota. And I also said Greg Monroe was going to Minnesota too. How the heck is Greg Monroe nene josh smith and kcp not enough for Kevin love who is good as gone in a year and a half...

This is a terrible fit....
Monroe's new contract this offseason plus, Nene (13,000,000) and Smith's (14,000,000) monster contracts and Pek's (12,100,000) already existing contract would leave the Wolves with upwards of $50 million on 4 front court players, none of whom can play SF effectively so at no time can even 3 of the 4 be on the court at the same time and be successful.

delux55 · Post #65 » by **delux55** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 8:30 pm

how is it so delusional to think hes gonna stay long term. If he hated minnesota so damn much and it was such a terrible place to be then why the hell has he already signed one contract after his rookie deal here. If it was such a terrible place to be he had a chance to leave once already. Dont see how its delusional to think he signs again.

as for your trades anything that involves josh smith or nene coming here you can just stop there. We and the team ownership and gm want nothing to do with those guys for numerous reasons

jsbasketball10 · Post #66 » by **jsbasketball10** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 8:33 pm

You must be a timberwolves fan otherwise you wouldn't be so bothered by this idea. And just know that first of all I said nene would be going to Detroit and Monroe Minnesota. You keep getting my two deals mixed up. Kevin love is not staying in Minnesota and the twolves wouldn't sign anyone better than Monroe and smith with that space anyways. Not that many players are dying to go to Minnesota when they could go to la or Dallas instead for the same money
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ku354xm

jsbasketball10 · Post #67 » by **jsbasketball10** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 8:35 pm

I never said nene was going to minesota for this deal. You guys keep mixing up my words so of course that wouldn't make sense to take 30 million but that's not what I'm suggesting they do

Mattya · Post #68 » by **Mattya** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 8:35 pm

jsbasketball10 wrote:You must be a timberwolves fan otherwise you wouldn't be so bothered by this idea. And just know that first of all I said nene would be going to Detroit and Monroe Minnesota. You keep getting my two deals mixed up. Kevin love is not staying in Minnesota and the twolves wouldn't sign anyone better than Monroe and smith with that space anyways. Not that many players are dying to go to Minnesota when they could go to la or Dallas instead for the same money
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ku354xm

You must be a Wizards fan since you are getting so mad that people are shooting down your terrible trades.

jsbasketball10 · Post #69 » by **jsbasketball10** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 8:39 pm

Yea I like the wizards but I'm only getting annoyed with you cause you keep tying to act like I'm an idiot saying i suggested something that i never did. Loves gone you can hang on and watch him leave for nothing or you could get some solid players in return

Mattya · Post #70 » by **Mattya** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 8:43 pm

You're annoyed because your fantasy trades make no sense.

MNRunLeft · Post #71 » by **MNRunLeft** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 8:44 pm

jsbasketball10 wrote:Yea I like the wizards but I'm only getting annoyed with you cause you keep tying to act like I'm an idiot saying i suggested something that i never did. Loves gone you can hang on and watch him leave for nothing or you could get some solid players in return

I don't see Detroit considering your orginal deal, espeically once the Wolves 1st is removed. Wolves also not interested in Smith to have him come off the bench for $14 mil per year.

Mattya · Post #72 » by **Mattya** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 8:44 pm

jsbasketball10 wrote:Yea I like the wizards but I'm only getting annoyed with you cause you keep tying to act like I'm an idiot saying i suggested something that i never did. Loves gone you can hang on and watch him leave for nothing or you could get some solid players in return

hmmm

jsbasketball10 wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kge6qao

Wolves get
Josh smith
Nene
Kcp
(They prolly get a 2nd round draft pick from pistons or maybe was)

This trades a little bit of a mess cause it was thought up in 5 mins but it's a decent start. It could work for all 3

Thats without mentioning that you had the Wolves trading Love, Martin, Barea, and possibly a first round pick. :lol:

Wolves_Nation · Post #73 » by **Wolves_Nation** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 8:45 pm

jsbasketball10 wrote:I'm not angry and I'm not calling you delusional, that is unless you actually think he's staying in Minnesota

What is your proof that you know, 100% he's gone? I'd love to hear it? Because that means you know something Minnesota ownership doesn't.

jsbasketball10 · Post #74 » by **jsbasketball10** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 8:46 pm

Whatever man I don't care if you agree with me or not here, but loves not staying in Minnesota and the wolves aren't making the playoffs so you might as well get something for him

Mattya · Post #75 » by **Mattya** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 8:49 pm

jsbasketball10 wrote:Whatever man I don't care if you agree with me or not here, but loves not staying in Minnesota and the wolves aren't making the playoffs so you might as well get something for him

Step 1: Offer bad trade
Step 2: Offer worse trade
Step 3: Call people delusional
Step 4: Say you didn't offer something, when you actually did
Step 5: Say how bleak other teams outlook is

DK-All Day · Post #76 » by **DK-All Day** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 8:55 pm

Minny shouldn't even listen to offers unless Love tells the FO he's leaving . Sometimes it's better to let the player walk away instead of taking bad offers just "to get something".

jsbasketball10 · Post #77 » by **jsbasketball10** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 9:00 pm

Mattya wrote:
jsbasketball10 wrote:Whatever man I don't care if you agree with me or not here, but loves not staying in Minnesota and the wolves aren't making the playoffs so you might as well get something for him

Step 1: Offer bad trade
Step 2: Offer worse trade
Step 3: Call people delusional
Step 4: Say you didn't offer something, when you actually did
Step 5: Say how bleak other teams outlook is

I sent an offer at first with k love going to dc that actually did make sense. The only hopeful part was love going to dc. But you said that would never happen and I can see why you'd think that. So then I made a completely random trade out of nowhere where love could go to Detroit instead. Clearly that trade really isn't too beneficial for you guys and it was a pretty stupid trade but that's also not the trade I wanted to suggest. Looking back on my first trade, if otto porter was sent along to Minnesota then it would definetely make sense for all 3 teams if Kevin love was to annouce that he's leaving

Mattya · Post #78 » by **Mattya** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 9:02 pm

And like I said Detroit would still cut the Wizards out and take Love for themselves.

AQuintus · Post #79 » by **AQuintus** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 9:50 pm

jsbasketball10 wrote:the wolves were desperate to get kcp in the draft.

No they weren't. They were hopeful that KCP would fall to them, but they weren't desperate. They were way more interested in Oladipo, but even then, they weren't willing to move Love to get the number 1 pick + a whole bunch of additional value.

And really, that Cleveland trade should be the baseline for any Love trade. Just ask yourself, "Is my offer better than the number 1 pick in 2013, Tristan Thompson, and Dion Waiters?" If not, don't bother to post it.

shrink · Post #80 » by **shrink** » Mon Jan 6, 2014 9:57 pm

It's frustrating for me to have taken the time to write a pretty thorough post at the top of page 2, and then have jbk come in here and say anyone who thinks Love will stay is delusional.

I don't know if he will stay. You certainly don't know, and trust me -- MIN fans have pored over every word Love has said probably a thousand times as much as you. Heck, maybe Love himself hasn't made the decision.

In any event, to insult a team and call the idea that him staying in MIN is delusional ... that's simply wrong. You shouldn't call people names just because they don't agree with you.