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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#321 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jan 7, 2014 12:37 pm

Teams that might go for Bynum :

1) Miami
2) Clippers
3) Dallas
4) Atlanta

Teams that can offer more then the Vet minimum :

1) Miami - full MiniMLE (3.1 Mil$)
2) Mavs - full MiniMLE
3) Atlanta - 1.7 Mil$
4) Clippers - Vet minimum (1.2)

Considering the fact that we're the strongest team out of the 4 and that Bynum is reported to want to play for a contender, we should get him if we really want him.

Although we might only offer him the Vet minimum to test his motivation.
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Post#322 » by DWadeno3 » Tue Jan 7, 2014 12:38 pm

Yaphet Kotto wrote:Bynum to the Bulls for deng, like the Bulls really needed bynum. :roll:



Obviously this was done by both of those teams just to try and spite miami.


Edit: just noticed they might waive him, meh


It was a pure financial move, by waiving him before Friday the Bulls won't have to pay half of his salary he's owed this year and none of it next year, that's the contract the Cavs signed him to.
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Post#323 » by AlexCRO » Tue Jan 7, 2014 12:43 pm

he will clear waivers thats for sure. this could be a really interesting scenario for the Heat . finally something to think and talk about because this season has been boring as hell. cant wait for the playoffs.
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Post#324 » by Dupas » Tue Jan 7, 2014 1:05 pm

still think that clippers have advantage purely because he is la tied
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Post#325 » by No-Man » Tue Jan 7, 2014 1:06 pm

Yaphet Kotto wrote:Bynum to the Bulls for deng, like the Bulls really needed bynum. :roll:



Obviously this was done by both of those teams just to try and spite miami.


Edit: just noticed they might waive him, meh

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Post#326 » by AlexCRO » Tue Jan 7, 2014 1:15 pm

if we waive Mason jr. today that could tell us something about the related situation. if Mason remains well we can close this thread then.
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Post#327 » by Ratchet_Rio » Tue Jan 7, 2014 2:21 pm

AlexCRO wrote:if we waive Mason jr. today that could tell us something about the related situation. if Mason remains well we can close this thread then.


pretty much..nobody is taking Joel off our hands
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Post#328 » by LEIF » Tue Jan 7, 2014 2:52 pm

I am on the "take him or leave him" bandwagon on this Bynum possibility. On one hand, I don't want a lazy uninspired player on our roster. On the other hand, our veteran lockeroom wouldn't allow him to upset chemistry or morale in any way. Also the fact we wouldn't be heavily committed to him financially would provide us with the option to just part ways if things got weird.

You are lying if you aren't intrigued with Bynum. The reward far outweighs the risk if he were to come in and turn it around.

Bynum even playing at 3/4 of what he used to is one heck of a big to throw at Hibbert come ECF time. Bynum/Oden with Bird and Bosh is a lot of different looks to throw at any opposing big. Why not have the option?

If Mason Jr gets waived today I think it will show us that Riley just cant pass when a capable big man is available. If Mason jr sticks and no Joel trade takes place, it will tell us everything we need to know about Bynum. If Riley cant revive him and thinks he is a lost cause, NOBODY can save him.
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Post#329 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jan 7, 2014 2:53 pm

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AlexCRO wrote:if we waive Mason jr. today that could tell us something about the related situation. if Mason remains well we can close this thread then.


pretty much..nobody is taking Joel off our hands


Incorrect. We can and should keep Mason even if we want Bynum, can trade or cut Joel/James Jones.
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Post#330 » by AlexCRO » Tue Jan 7, 2014 2:55 pm

LEIF wrote:I am on the "take him or leave him" bandwagon on this Bynum possibility. On one hand, I don't want a lazy uninspired player on our roster. On the other hand, our veteran lockeroom wouldn't allow him to upset chemistry or morale in any way. Also the fact we wouldn't be heavily committed to him financially would provide us with the option to just part ways if things got weird.

You are lying if you aren't intrigued with Bynum. The reward far outweighs the risk if he were to come in and turn it around.

Bynum even playing at 3/4 of what he used to is one heck of a big to throw at Hibbert come ECF time. Bynum/Oden with Bird and Bosh is a lot of different looks to throw at any opposing big. Why not have the option?

If Mason Jr gets waived today I think it will show us that Riley just cant pass when a capable big man is available. If Mason jr sticks and no Joel trade takes place, it will tell us everything we need to know about Bynum. If Riley cant revive him and thinks he is a lost cause, NOBODY can save him.


amen. plus if we pass on this chance and somehow hibbert eliminates us i would be seriously pissed. this could bite us before it backfires at us. i say risk it.
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Post#331 » by RJM » Tue Jan 7, 2014 2:56 pm

I have a feeling that we don't dump Joel or Mason. That's just my gut. No link.
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Post#332 » by AlexCRO » Tue Jan 7, 2014 2:59 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
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AlexCRO wrote:if we waive Mason jr. today that could tell us something about the related situation. if Mason remains well we can close this thread then.


pretty much..nobody is taking Joel off our hands


Incorrect. We can and should keep Mason even if we want Bynum, can trade or cut Joel/James Jones.


yes but nobody is taking jones or anthony. plus if we waive Jones or Anthony we would have to pay for the rest of the contract because is guaranteed and that doesnt favor the organization. mason is a non guaranteed contract so he is closest to the door.
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Post#333 » by AlexCRO » Tue Jan 7, 2014 2:59 pm

Iceburg Slim wrote:I have a feeling that we don't dump Joel or Mason. That's just my gut. No link.


i think you are right too
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Post#334 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jan 7, 2014 3:01 pm

Iceburg Slim wrote:I have a feeling that we don't dump Joel or Mason. That's just my gut. No link.


We're in no rush. It makes no sense to cut anyone BEFORE we talk to Bynum and make sure we can work with him.

If and When we feel confident we want to add him, we can clear a roster spot. It takes 5 minutes to cut a player. Bynum is in no rush to sign with a new team either, the playoffs are months away.
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Post#335 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jan 7, 2014 3:06 pm

AlexCRO wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:
Ratchet_Rio wrote:
pretty much..nobody is taking Joel off our hands


Incorrect. We can and should keep Mason even if we want Bynum, can trade or cut Joel/James Jones.


yes but nobody is taking jones or anthony. plus if we waive Jones or Anthony we would have to pay for the rest of the contract because is guaranteed and that doesnt favor the organization. mason is a non guaranteed contract so he is closest to the door.


Money wise, cutting Mason is more profitable. Basketball wise, Mason is more useful then James Jones. Is it worth the couple of Mil$ we could save? that's up to Pat and Micky to decide. But if we really wanted Bynum and felt he could be a game changer, I have no doubt we would cut a non contributing player for him, guaranteed contract or not.
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Post#336 » by AlexCRO » Tue Jan 7, 2014 3:10 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
AlexCRO wrote:
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Incorrect. We can and should keep Mason even if we want Bynum, can trade or cut Joel/James Jones.


yes but nobody is taking jones or anthony. plus if we waive Jones or Anthony we would have to pay for the rest of the contract because is guaranteed and that doesnt favor the organization. mason is a non guaranteed contract so he is closest to the door.


Money wise, cutting Mason is more profitable. Basketball wise, Mason is more useful then James Jones. Is it worth the couple of Mil$ we could save? that's up to Pat and Micky to decide. But if we really wanted Bynum and felt he could be a game changer, I have no doubt we would cut a non contributing player for him, guaranteed contract or not.


yeah i agree but i do feel this organization is too loyal to the point that is hurting the team and their chances to be better. and i am talking about specific situations. see james jones, joel anthony contract, in some cases udonis haslem etc. i understand the team bond , chemistry and all of that stuff but common now.
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Post#337 » by LEIF » Tue Jan 7, 2014 3:10 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
AlexCRO wrote:
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Incorrect. We can and should keep Mason even if we want Bynum, can trade or cut Joel/James Jones.


yes but nobody is taking jones or anthony. plus if we waive Jones or Anthony we would have to pay for the rest of the contract because is guaranteed and that doesnt favor the organization. mason is a non guaranteed contract so he is closest to the door.


Money wise, cutting Mason is more profitable. Basketball wise, Mason is more useful then James Jones. Is it worth the couple of Mil$ we could save? that's up to Pat and Micky to decide. But if we really wanted Bynum and felt he could be a game changer, I have no doubt we would cut a non contributing player for him, guaranteed contract or not.


no doubt.....but I think if the prudent thing to do from a financial standpoint is take advantage of waiving a non guaranteed player instead of eating a guaranteed deal, Riley will make that happen. I think the dialogue between the Heat and Bynum, and most importantly Riley with the team with regards to adding Bynum, has been in motion and wont take as long as some think..
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Post#338 » by Ratchet_Rio » Tue Jan 7, 2014 3:11 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
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AlexCRO wrote:if we waive Mason jr. today that could tell us something about the related situation. if Mason remains well we can close this thread then.


pretty much..nobody is taking Joel off our hands


Incorrect. We can and should keep Mason even if we want Bynum, can trade or cut Joel/James Jones.

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Post#339 » by AlexCRO » Tue Jan 7, 2014 3:14 pm

LEIF wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:
AlexCRO wrote:
yes but nobody is taking jones or anthony. plus if we waive Jones or Anthony we would have to pay for the rest of the contract because is guaranteed and that doesnt favor the organization. mason is a non guaranteed contract so he is closest to the door.


Money wise, cutting Mason is more profitable. Basketball wise, Mason is more useful then James Jones. Is it worth the couple of Mil$ we could save? that's up to Pat and Micky to decide. But if we really wanted Bynum and felt he could be a game changer, I have no doubt we would cut a non contributing player for him, guaranteed contract or not.


no doubt.....but I think if the prudent thing to do from a financial standpoint is take advantage of waiving a non guaranteed player instead of eating a guaranteed deal, Riley will make that happen. I think the dialogue between the Heat and Bynum, and most importantly Riley with the team with regards to adding Bynum, has been in motion and wont take as long as some think..


yeah things will go fast from now on then, rumors, news etc. regarded to bynum waive today, if the heat waive someone that will be the first sign if the heat are in the mix. then a 48 hour waiver period and so on. we will see.
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Post#340 » by AlexCRO » Tue Jan 7, 2014 3:21 pm

plus if we waive mason jr we can resign him on two 10 days contracts after the 48 hour waiver period depending on the severity of the chalmers injury. so we can milk even more of this situation if needed.
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